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Post by Magnus on Jun 6, 2023 22:56:17 GMT
Yes, it is not as simple as "calories in - calories out", even for "serious bodybuilders" like Rich Piana. Thanks. If you read the article and that’s what you got out of it…. Let’s just say that the subject is probably beyond your preconceived notions, and that you’d just be better off carrying on ‘believing’ in your own fallacies… 🤓
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Post by Magnus on Jun 6, 2023 23:02:07 GMT
I thought it was sort of a question when you stated "Calories in/calories out is just common sense, but from what most of us on this site want is lose fat and keep muscles." ? But anyway, what works when someone is young will work when they're older as well, just may have to modify things. in the video Stew stated that it's going to take a bit more to lose the weight after approx age 50, so the calories need reducing further. Did you see my earlier post ?... Trainers like Stew regularly work with older guys that need to lose weight and keep it off; what works for them will work for anyone else. Forget all the complicated nonsense from medical doctors and other eggheads that are all about theory and "studies", just give basic simplicity a shot and get it done... Here's the post: Formula #1: Calories OUT > Calories IN = Weight LossThis formula is as basic as weight loss gets. Though there is much debate on this theory, I do agree that a calorie of carbohydrates does not equal a calories of protein. So not all calories are equal. You need to limit your sugar - NOW! If you exercise more calories than you eat at the end of the day, you will lose weight. Creating a calorie deficiency at the end of a day does not mean you have to starve yourself. In fact, decreasing your calories too much can have an opposite effect on the body and cause what I refer to as CAMEL MODE. Limit carbohydrates, increase protein and good fats for optimal results. The human body is built for survival and when we receive too few calories and not enough water, we can actually shut down our metabolism to a point where you will not burn fat and store water. So, you will not lose weight, but you could gain weight by the increased water retention. This is where Formula #2 comes into play: Water + Oxygen = Fat burning Basically, the body needs water and increased oxygen to burn fat as an energy source. The water intake should be anywhere from ½ gallon for women and up to 1 gallon a day for men. See this article in the StewSmith.com Article Archive if you are concerned about drinking “too much water.” As you add more water to your system, your body will be able to use the retained water for excretion, prompting almost immediate weight loss that is healthy. This is not the same as sitting in a sauna and sweating which actually DEHYDRATES you. Adding water will REHYDRATE you and enable the body to burn more fat (as long as you increase your oxygen intake by doing some form of exercise). Walking, swimming, biking, jogging, calisthenics, and even yard work can help with working your cardiovascular system. Remember, the key to any weight control program is adding water to your diet and developing a fitness plan that will help you add oxygen and burn calories and fat. This will produce the caloric deficiency needed to lose weight... I don't think you watched the video I posted and that's fine. The only complicated part is the guy talks about the names of the process involved but it all boiled down to being it's better to eat healthy food vs processed even if they have the same macro content. We can disagree all day, so what, nothing else to say, like pissing in the wind.... Having a little junk even daily while at the maintenance or a calorie deficit is fine but living on it is another (IMO). I merely presented another side of the equation, less calories from a more natural nutritious source compared to junk. Glad Stew is an authority, so were the Mentzer bro's, casey Viator etc, you know guys who never made really old age, so let's see how far it gets him. BTW, Lalane made almost 100 and had other views like never eating junk and I don't even do that myself. Competitive bb's are genetic superiors and juicers and can eat anything and gain. Water cut for making weight in sports? Here's an egghead talking who brings up how to get more oxygen into the system for fat loss. I was really talking more about potatoheads video as far as my “egghead” comment. Some of these videos that are posted make me think that some people go to their doctors for exercise and diet advice…. Lololololol
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Post by Magnus on Jun 6, 2023 23:04:43 GMT
I heard Francis gets his exercise and diet advice from his doctor…
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Post by moxohol on Jun 7, 2023 5:59:53 GMT
Minerals are the framework. Vitamins are the nuts & bolts.
Insulin management regulates the body set point, IGF-1 (see Tim Belknap’s spectacular physique who was a Type 1 diabetic) aging & endocrine system. Glycemic load is essential for proper insulin management & by extension - an element of nutrition.
“Calories in” is the fuel to operate the machinery. Glycemic load is the octane rating.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 7, 2023 6:17:30 GMT
Yes, it is not as simple as "calories in - calories out", even for "serious bodybuilders" like Rich Piana. Thanks. If you read the article and that’s what you got out of it…. Let’s just say that the subject is probably beyond your preconceived notions, and that you’d just be better off carrying on ‘believing’ in your own fallacies… 🤓 Perhaps there is a behavioral label for someone who says one thing and provides content which directly contradicts what they're saying ..... what would it be? I don't know, maybe ......delusional behavior? Oblivious? Perhaps it's one the new terms I've picked up in the past 3+ years of craziness ...... "cognitive dissonance"? For those who are less challenged by reading comprehension, here's one brief quote from your article about juiced up young bodybuilders who eat 5K to 6K calories per day, and eat junk food, but are being advised in your article to do so ONLY when bulking, NOT when losing weight:I've made bold and highlighted some key words or phrases to help you with your reading comprehension issue. Best wishes!
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 10:28:32 GMT
If you read the article and that’s what you got out of it…. Let’s just say that the subject is probably beyond your preconceived notions, and that you’d just be better off carrying on ‘believing’ in your own fallacies… 🤓 Perhaps there is a behavioral label for someone who says one thing and provides content which directly contradicts what they're saying ..... what would it be? I don't know, maybe ......delusional behavior? Oblivious? Perhaps it's one the new terms I've picked up in the past 3+ years of craziness ...... "cognitive dissonance"? I've made bold and highlighted some key words or phrases to help you with your reading comprehension issue. Best wishes! Wow, such a combative and nasty little potato when you come across inconvenient and true facts that contradict your incorrect dogmatic 'beliefs', are you really a democrat in disguise ?... The link was posted for informational purposes and pertains to bodybuilding / junk food, it wasn't posted to back up the 'Calories OUT > Calories IN = Weight Loss' facts of the matter at hand... *Are you still looking for the Monty Python "silly emoji" but haven't found it yet ? is that why you can't control yourself and keep posting gibberish despite stating that "this thread has become entirely too silly...No point in continuing." ?
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 10:38:57 GMT
'Calories OUT > Calories IN = Weight Loss'
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 11:02:19 GMT
Once again for anyone who still insists on complicating things, put down that cold potato and cup of urine and pay attention to the video this time…
*And yes there’s going to be a quiz later… 🤓
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 12:13:22 GMT
But anyway, what works when someone is young will work when they're older as well, just may have to modify things. Formula #1: Calories OUT > Calories IN = Weight LossThis formula is as basic as weight loss gets. This is where Formula #2 comes into play: Water + Oxygen = Fat burning Basically, the body needs water and increased oxygen to burn fat as an energy source. Having a little junk even daily while at the maintenance or a calorie deficit is fine but living on it is another (IMO). I merely presented another side of the equation, less calories from a more natural nutritious source compared to junk. Glad Stew is an authority, so were the Mentzer bro's, casey Viator etc, you know guys who never made really old age, so let's see how far it gets him. BTW, Lalane made almost 100 and had other views like never eating junk and I don't even do that myself.
Jack was actually 96 when he died, and despite all his exercising and restrictive diet his brother Norman LaLanne, a marine supply businessman who was a fixture on the San Francisco waterfront for some six decades, ironically lived a year longer to 97 ... *I once heard that Norm didn't exercise at all except for the occasional Sunday golf outing, and contrary to his health obsessed brother Jack he basically ate whatever he wanted, including hamburgers and cake, etc... www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Norman-LaLanne-well-known-waterfront-2603729.php
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Post by moxohol on Jun 7, 2023 14:16:06 GMT
Jack LaLanne had knee surgery on both of them before he was 80. He had a heart valve replacement at 95. He died about a year later of pneumonia. Seems he caught a bug & refused to see a doctor about it. He kept up his daily routine up to the day before his death.
Norman lived a normal life & worked his ass off to become a successful business man. He preceded his brothers death by 5 years.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 14:45:45 GMT
Jack LaLanne had knee surgery on both of them before he was 80. He had a heart valve replacement at 95. He died about a year later of pneumonia. Seems he caught a bug & refused to see a doctor about it. He kept up his daily routine up to the day before his death. Norman lived a normal life & worked his ass off to become a successful business man. He preceded his brothers death by 5 years. In Norm’s obituary it says that he was well known at the ‘Ramp Restaurant’ which was located near his business. The ‘Ramp’ is basically a fancy version of a diner, and Norm ate there almost every day; burgers, omelets, pastrami sandwiches, etc. all within caloric moderation of course, and all washed down with plenty of coffee and sometimes even a nice slice of pie for dessert. He was also known to hang out for awhile after his meals and enjoy a nice post meal cigar or two while chatting up the other locals from what I’ve heard…. I’ll bet that if Norm had lived and worked in the NYC area he’d have felt right at home down at the nearby White Castle… 😎
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 7, 2023 15:04:06 GMT
And who knows what meds Norm or even Jack were even on, or what procedures Norm had done. He could have had a quad by-pass like CT Fletcher. Big OD Wilson also comes to mind, but now I'm off track and onto huge guys who ate pounds of meat daily and strained hard on lifts.
Maybe the exercise killed Jack and all the others. ALL the old ladies and the fewer guys I know who lived to 90 and up, and some smoked, never had formal exercise programs. Like Joe Bonomo who lived to only 76, but his brother lived to like 99 (?).
I just believe eating good food while reducing or gaining is better than mickey D's or twinkies. Anyway....it's just my 2 drachma's worth of contribution.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 15:13:44 GMT
Maybe we should all just take Trump’s advice and be better off for it ? 🤓
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Post by moxohol on Jun 7, 2023 17:37:32 GMT
When I had my chest & head embolisms my doctor prescribed simply doing house chores like mopping & sweeping floors, shaking out carpets which I still do to this day. It’s not about how many calories u burn; it’s about how high u raise ur heart beat for X time. To wit: u have Tabata protocol which last only 8 minutes or so in total but the efficacy is spectacular. Raising ur heart-rate high enough jacks up ur body’s thermostat which in turn burns the calories all day long not necessarily the exercise itself.
Intensity is relative. While my entire body may tremble picking up a 2kg weight, Magnus may crush out a cigarette, bang out a set of heavy squats, quaff down a mug of trans-friendly Bud Lite & perform another heavy set.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 7, 2023 18:19:45 GMT
When I had my chest & head embolisms my doctor prescribed simply doing house chores like mopping & sweeping floors, shaking out carpets which I still do to this day. It’s not about how many calories u burn; it’s about how high u raise ur heart beat for X time. To wit: u have Tabata protocol which last only 8 minutes or so in total but the efficacy is spectacular. Raising ur heart-rate high enough jacks up ur body’s thermostat which in turn burns the calories all day long not necessarily the exercise itself. Intensity is relative. While my entire body may tremble picking up a 2kg weight, Magnus may crush out a cigarette, bang out a set of heavy squats, quaff down a mug of trans-friendly Bud Lite & perform another heavy set.I put out my last cigarette at 7:15am on Monday, June 28th 2004 after chain smoking 3 Marlboro's... And when I drank beer my first choice was Yuengling, I never drank 'light' beer, never saw the point in drinking weak pisswater ? *LOVE Tabata's by the way, I still use them from time to time when I row my Concept 2...
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