Mr Average
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Post by Mr Average on Feb 7, 2019 23:42:27 GMT
Functional Training, Toning Workout, Muscle Confusion, Fat Burning Zone, I have not tried any of those, apparently I have just found out what I do is NEAT, Non-Exercise Activity ThermogenesisAttachment Deleted but I like to call it normal day. Don't you just love Buzzwords? Well I may decide to burn off some belly fat now
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Post by Hector on Feb 8, 2019 0:12:34 GMT
Just work it off, burning hurts like fook.
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Post by billfish on Feb 8, 2019 0:42:28 GMT
Because a big mouthed greedy arsehole needs to look knowledgeable so he can get his hand on your money selling you his whatever course or just needs to feel snarter than the average fence post I worked in 2 gyms and the terms they used would dazzle people even though they had no idea of what they meant, but it made the trainers look very wise and knowledgeable And as I stated earlier, the lack of integrity was shocking Anything to sell some bullshit supplements, protein powder or additional personal training The owners pushed the trainers to get the people to buy or add additional personal training because " that's where the money is"
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 8, 2019 1:47:22 GMT
Apparently, neck bridging is where the money is for chiropractors.
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Post by Hector on Feb 8, 2019 2:48:28 GMT
First, bridging nose to mat is a big nono.
Second, even with the best safest execution, on the long run, not everybody can do it with impunity. Things are even worse for wrestlers who have to do it to resist a pin.
Even Mal, grappling nut that he is (judo and wrestling), would be the first to tell you to avoid it.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 8, 2019 5:15:58 GMT
I didn't read the article. We've had discussions on "functional" strength before. As far as I'm concerned strength is strength, pure and simple. A person who can do the basic compound lifts - press, curl, deadlift, squat, row - with alotta weight, is strong, functionally or otherwise.
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Post by Hector on Feb 8, 2019 6:38:42 GMT
Sums the reality of it quite nicely
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Feb 8, 2019 12:46:09 GMT
I didn't read the article. We've had discussions on "functional" strength before. As far as I'm concerned strength is strength, pure and simple. A person who can do the basic compound lifts - press, curl, deadlift, squat, row - with alotta weight, is strong, functionally or otherwise. But what do You think about certain exercises being functional? Like say for example, Macky does isometrics and Bob does self resistance or KSHD. Macky can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he does this because of injuries. I believe Bob does what he does because of his illness and maybe injuries. Why are these exercises not considered functional? If they help someone with their situation like injuries and keeps them doing something? I believe it would be better than not doing anything? I know the science and all that but if a certain kind of exercise causes pain or someone can't do it because of some other limitations why is what they are doing not functional? I think some guys would say a curl is not functional. But I've been trying to pay attention to what I do job wise. There is sometimes I actually curl something.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 8, 2019 15:35:33 GMT
Michael you make good points re: training around injuries and injury prevention. Although some really astonishing people have posted here, this board has always been about recreational exercisers interested mostly in health or in bodybuilding. Most of us probably realise that the best exercise routine is the one you can stick to. I'm pretty confident that some exercises are more beneficial than others. Curls thought are way under-rated as far as practical application goes, people think deadlifts are great but it's very rare to have to lift something to thigh-height and no further.
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Post by Hector on Feb 8, 2019 17:04:44 GMT
Just try climbing rope hand over hand without strong biceps.
Of course there are other ways to get them, but curls are the most practical way for most.
Any exercise that get you stronger and fitter, either in a general or specific way, is functional.
Anybody thinking otherwise is not really thinking.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 8, 2019 17:34:41 GMT
I would add that you'll never get the most out of your body without "isolation" exercises. For example, I believe that lateral raises, front, side, and rear, are absolutely essential shoulder exercises, probably more important in the long run than overhead presses. I know perfectly well this goes against most modern training advice, but that is my experience. If all you do for shoulders is presses, as some advocate, you'll never develop your shoulders to the max and you may be courting muscle imbalances and injuries. Another good example is the leg curl, Pavel and others will tell you the only exercise you need for your hamstrings is squats and deadlifts, no no I say, the leg curl is of immense value in strengthening the hamstrings and stabilizing the knee, there is no substitute for leg curls, done either as an SR or with an iron boot (I would not use a leg curl machine, though). And yes, just to complete Fred's heresy, I also believe there is great value in leg extensions for the quads and flying type motions for the chest--I should emphasize that I'm not saying there's anything wrong with "compound" exercises, they are beneficial and important too, but the isolation moves belong in a routine just as much.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 8, 2019 17:37:55 GMT
Oh, and another thing--looking pretty can be very "functional" for some people--just ask Kim Basinger.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 17:44:26 GMT
Oh, and another thing--looking pretty can be very "functional" for some people--just ask Kim Basinger. Selma Hayek too and Gal Gadot.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 8, 2019 17:45:57 GMT
Check out what he says about "proper" (functional) training, starting at 10:00.
"Do no harm" & "Training should not cause injury". I guess Steve won't be recommending those shoulder-wrecking deep pushups.
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Mr Average
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Post by Mr Average on Feb 8, 2019 18:13:00 GMT
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