TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 2:17:50 GMT
Moot point. Gustav Schwarzenegger was the person who signed up to become a member of the National Socialist party, not Arnold. I'm not here to judge -- he may have signed up due to pressure or the threat of repercussions if he didn't join the party. Or did he sign up for the wrong reason? We don't know as we weren't there. I'd recommend reading the history of the region, the rise of the National Socialist party (many policies similar to the DNC, btw).
Arnold's rise to fame had a lot of help from countless people both legit and questionable to include the Weider mafia. His affairs on his wife disgusted me -- he screwed around on her before their wedding and after they were married.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 2:19:10 GMT
I used to want to check out this guy and that guy for strength type stuff, but anymore? It's just, pick up heavy shit, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down ................. Throw in a lot of stretching, Qigong swings/stick stuff & some holds and I'm good. I likely don't spend a lot of time exercising at a time, but I do it often.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 2:25:36 GMT
I used to want to check out this guy and that guy for strength type stuff, but anymore? It's just, pick up heavy shit, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down ................. Throw in a lot of stretching, Qigong swings/stick stuff & some holds and I'm good. I likely don't spend a lot of time exercising at a time, but I do it often. I do too. Timing is important to me and I don't want to waste it doing things too long.
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 2:25:56 GMT
And regarding books: there's nothing new out there. At this point, nearly all of it is a rehash -- sometimes verbatim -- of past writings.
The problem is, the original authors, etc., don't get the credit and if you're not aware of these publications, articles, etc., that came first people like Kubik are going to be looked at like he's got some kind of new cutting edge ideas. There's another person who pretty much took Bruce's KSHD and used it as his own.
Websites are no different if not worse.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 4, 2019 2:34:47 GMT
Kubik made his (publishing) money whining about gym bunnies in lycra and how he was hard as fuck for doing heavy singles and triples all the time just like big names in the fifties or whatever, the sentiment was probably more important than the content and influenced a lot of people. In fact, it influenced so many people that if you cared about getting really big and strong you'd have absorbed the gist of it by now anyway. He had a stab at the $100+ bodyweight course idea either because of genuine injuries or because he thought Matt Furey was selling better than him. I think he went back to telling everyone to do singles and triples but if they were old like him they could do sets of five.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 4, 2019 3:55:08 GMT
I used to want to check out this guy and that guy for strength type stuff, but anymore? It's just, pick up heavy shit, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down ................. You forgot pick it up, walk around with it, put it down.
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Post by Mr Average on Feb 4, 2019 12:42:45 GMT
I used to want to check out this guy and that guy for strength type stuff, but anymore? It's just, pick up heavy shit, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down, pick it up, walk around with it, put it down ................. You forgot pick it up, walk around with it, put it down. He forgot another pick it up, walk around with it, put it down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 16:16:35 GMT
Weights are an essential tool for athletics and other endeavours. I'm assuming you're of the mindset on the bodyweight boards or the claims that weights are "dysfunctional"...seems to be the theme vs. activities such as "bear crawls"? Real life is about weights -- pick up a sofa. In fact, what was Ross' opinion? www.rosstraining.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53055&sid=dd3cae16351d2e5c0a86670a4f0aba0c&start=20 (BTW, that whole thread is a riot...great quotes from BillFish, Justin P, etc. ) Anyway... Carry a refrigerator on your back (a learned activity taught by skilled movers). Put a suitcase in the overhead compartment in an airliner (most will recognize the joke in this one via Andy29). Line up against another player on the football field and try to move that individual. You better be hitting your squats. Heavy presses. Triceps work. Or that person across from you will be tossing you wherever. Pick up grocery bags. Carry a ruck. Those are all "weights". There's no 'place' for weights...they're everywhere. "Sparring" was Gable's form of conditioning and working on technique. Nothing to do with building strength. I get your point and know there are weights everywhere but I was mainly talking barbells and dumbbells. I prefer bodyweight workouts cause it's fun. After being in the gym off and on for the last year, not too much has changed except a few PRs here and there. My toughest lifting is attaching the fat gripz to the dumbbells and barbells at the gym. Moving 40 lb DB with Fat Gripz is tough and really makes you focus harder in order to maintain form. The heaviest I lifted overhead with Fat Gripz was I think 230 for 3 reps. The word weights could mean anything when it comes to objects and equipment. I like Odd Object lifting from time to time, picking up a stone or when I had to haul my big ass dresser that was solid wood. Awkward lifts are more fun imo cause you can't lift them the same way a barbell or dumbbell. I learned a lot from Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training and a fanatic on thick bar training. I've even used Fat Gripz on handles of the Lifeline TNT Cables, I get a killer workout from that and doing a few reps of thick bar pullups. Can you tell I'm fond of stuff like that ? I looked over my log book and I will admit I was wrong about the overhead press number. The max was 200/1 with Fat Gripz. I found the day I did it and here's what was logged in.... Dumbbell Curls (no fat gripz) 55 lbs/10 (5 each arm) 60 lbs/10 (5 each arm) 65 lbs/6 (3 each arm) 70 lbs/6 (3 each arm) 75 lbs/4 (2 each arm) Pull Downs (with Fat Gripz) 145 lbs/5 175 lbs/3 Pulldowns (without Fat Gripz) 205 lbs/5 235 lbs/5 250 lbs/3 265 lbs/1 Overhead Press (with Fat Gripz) 135/5 185/2 195/1 200/1 I think I have a video on Instagram that shows me doing the 60 lb Dumbbell Curls, I'll have to find it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 16:37:04 GMT
I get your point and know there are weights everywhere but I was mainly talking barbells and dumbbells. I prefer bodyweight workouts cause it's fun. After being in the gym off and on for the last year, not too much has changed except a few PRs here and there. My toughest lifting is attaching the fat gripz to the dumbbells and barbells at the gym. Moving 40 lb DB with Fat Gripz is tough and really makes you focus harder in order to maintain form. The heaviest I lifted overhead with Fat Gripz was I think 230 for 3 reps. The word weights could mean anything when it comes to objects and equipment. I like Odd Object lifting from time to time, picking up a stone or when I had to haul my big ass dresser that was solid wood. Awkward lifts are more fun imo cause you can't lift them the same way a barbell or dumbbell. I learned a lot from Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training and a fanatic on thick bar training. I've even used Fat Gripz on handles of the Lifeline TNT Cables, I get a killer workout from that and doing a few reps of thick bar pullups. Can you tell I'm fond of stuff like that ? I looked over my log book and I will admit I was wrong about the overhead press number. The max was 200/1 with Fat Gripz. I found the day I did it and here's what was logged in.... Dumbbell Curls (no fat gripz) 55 lbs/10 (5 each arm) 60 lbs/10 (5 each arm) 65 lbs/6 (3 each arm) 70 lbs/6 (3 each arm) 75 lbs/4 (2 each arm) Pull Downs (with Fat Gripz) 145 lbs/5 175 lbs/3 Pulldowns (without Fat Gripz) 205 lbs/5 235 lbs/5 250 lbs/3 265 lbs/1 Overhead Press (with Fat Gripz) 135/5 185/2 195/1 200/1 I think I have a video on Instagram that shows me doing the 60 lb Dumbbell Curls, I'll have to find it. Couldn't find what I was looking for but did find a video of doing 50 lb dumbbells for 10 reps. That was posted in April of last year. Still fun to do. http://instagram.com/p/BhPxGF-B2fv
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 8, 2019 15:52:58 GMT
BEGONE! BEGONE, THOU, WITH THOSE TOOLS OF SATAN!
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Post by Mr Average on Feb 8, 2019 18:24:10 GMT
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