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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 0:39:33 GMT
...... I learned a lot from Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training and a fanatic on thick bar training. ...... Tell me about this book, please. Sounds interesting. i have pool noodles slipped over my Lifeline handles (the handles can be removed to do this). I keep one set of the LL bands on them and dedicate them to certain pulls. The Hook is the ONE, most versatile, and necessary for everything you can imagine. Don't need the LLs, but already had them.
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 1:01:41 GMT
...... I learned a lot from Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training and a fanatic on thick bar training. ...... Tell me about this book, please. Sounds interesting. Spuds, I had Kubik's book when it first came out -- got it after all of the internet hype and found: 1. The writing style was pretty good except for one annoying thing*. 2. There is absolutely nothing new in this book if you've been lifting for a while. Somewhat comparable to books by people like Stuart McRobert or Randall Strossen. If you've read them, you're good. *As I recall, Kubik continued to recommend "work harder" what seemed like page after page to the point I was ready to chuck the book (it ended up at Half Price Books). I may be confusing the book with something else, but, think that is accurate. But, that also sounds much like McRobert as I recall from Brawn (?) -- makes you wonder if Brooks mapped out Brawn and came up with his book. Dave Draper's board had a discussion about Kubik "trashing his shoulders" and having to give up heavy lifting. Stuart McRobert, who gave similar advise and recommended a similar training style, had to stop as well for similar reasons. Found the discussion: www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/14002/Kubik's BW book was not well received, and, the price was a joke. If I were to recommend one book on sensible lifting at this point, it would be one of the SuperSlow publications or for those interested in more progressive strength Pavel's PttP (and I'm not a Pavel fan, BTW). Kubik's books? Save your hard earned $$$.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 1:06:33 GMT
...... I learned a lot from Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training and a fanatic on thick bar training. ...... Tell me about this book, please. Sounds interesting. i have pool noodles slipped over my Lifeline handles (the handles can be removed to do this). I keep one set of the LL bands on them and dedicate them to certain pulls. The Hook is the ONE, most versatile, and necessary for everything you can imagine. Don't need the LLs, but already had them. Dinosaur Training is a top level book that pits classic lifting into today's world (even though it was written in 96). World class info on partital lifting, thick bar training, core work and odd object training. Has some routines from the old timers and puts on great ideas for lifting starting from the bottom such as the Bench Press. Great chapters on basic dumbbell lifting and testing lifts using a heavy thick bar. No bullshit, no pictures and straight forward training ideas.
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Post by Mr. Burpees on Feb 4, 2019 1:15:54 GMT
Why not do burpees rather than hindu push ups and squats? mor efficient and athletic no doubt about better condition ing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 1:18:15 GMT
Why not do burpees rather than hindu push ups and squats? mor efficient and athletic no doubt about better condition ing Some burpees are good to do but others can be very taxing. Regular Burpees with the pushup and jump were a favorite for a while and do them in HIIT format but had to back off and focus on other methods.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 1:32:01 GMT
I hate fucking burpees. I am not burping.
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 1:39:14 GMT
Spuds - Read the (objective) reviews on Amazon, other boards. A lot of people love him but a lot pretty much dismiss him as taking the ideas of others and claiming them as his. Not bullshit? When you're basically re-writing programs by McRoberts, Kim Woods, etc., and then just repeating 'train harder', it is bullshit.
Benny hasn't been around the strength game as long as most of us, so, his perspective of Kubik is probably based on not having read the authors/information that preceeded him.
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 1:40:29 GMT
I hate fucking burpees. I am not burping. I still don't know the point of burpees. Outside of gym class and BW books/sites, I've never seen the need.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 1:40:45 GMT
........... ..... people like Stuart McRobert or Randall Strossen. ...... like McRobert as I recall from Brawn (?) ...... Dave Draper's board had a discussion about Kubik "trashing his shoulders" and having to give up heavy lifting. ..... I've seen McRobert's name somewhere and visited a Draper site several times for linked refs and such, but I'm unfamiliar with these guys. The old, "No pain, no gain" is complete BS though, IMO. I only do what is comfortable, as someone indicates here: "... hints at excess" (rofl)
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 1:41:52 GMT
OK, there you go again ...... "Kim Woods"?
I am so under informed.
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Post by Mr Burpees on Feb 4, 2019 1:49:50 GMT
I hate fucking burpees. I am not burping. I still don't know the point of burpees. Outside of gym class and BW books/sites, I've never seen the need. Simple conditioning. Do 200 and then come back with more knoledge .
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 1:52:38 GMT
OK, there you go again ...... "Kim Woods"? I am so under informed. Kim Wood is a strength training legend from the Cincinnati area and his name is all over the strongman boards. Things that Kim taught included thick bar/handle training... www.rogersathletic.com/updates/get-strong-blog/just-the-basics/Kubik, btw, is an attorney in nearby Louisville, Kentucky. Hmm...
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Post by TexasRanger on Feb 4, 2019 1:54:41 GMT
I still don't know the point of burpees. Outside of gym class and BW books/sites, I've never seen the need. Simple conditioning. Do 200 and then come back with more knoledge . Pointless. Conditioning for what...? Doing 200 burpees?
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 4, 2019 2:00:21 GMT
I still don't know the point of burpees. Outside of gym class and BW books/sites, I've never seen the need. Simple conditioning. Do 200 and then come back with more knoledge . In the words of Lone Watie, "You drink it."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 2:04:35 GMT
Brooks isn't the best but I like some of his approach and doing his best to keep the classic ideals alive. That's all I care about and look at certain courses from another perspective. I only judge what is beneficial. A lot of authors write crappy courses that look legit but there are others who have remarkable courses and are worth the reading.
Personally, I like the old school styles of lifting and overall training but I like what some people bring to the table today. You're right I haven't been around the strength game as a lot of guys have and still young to a degree. I was just pointing out the positives I got out of Brooks' book and have some of his other courses as well including his Bodyweight book in paperback form. That book isn't all that great but does have decent ideas and his writing style is interesting to me.
It takes a lot to convince me of what book or course to snatch up and making the right choices. I have given away a couple books here and there because I had no need for them anymore and could benefit someone else and have books that are collectors items in my eyes and something I can pass on to my kids someday. There are some authors I cannot stand on a personal level or a training level but that's the beauty of it, you learn to use what's best for your goals. Research is important and learning different ideals to make yourself better is important as well. In the end, training is what comes your way and what you plan to do with it.
Some authors are hated, loved and could never be quite figured out yet people will flock to them in some fashion whether they're original or not which is irrelevant anyway.
Like Atlas, he was a gimmick and a great story but he wasn't a saint either. Swoboda was a quack and his story is sketchy at best but he was around and did what he did. Schwarzenegger was the king of bodybuilding but had controversy behind it especially coming from a father who was a Nazi.
Hoffman was ruthless in his quest for dominating weightlifting and took steps that people still don't want to admit and he didn't play well with competition.
Furey wanted to go into business for himself and made his first huge money off of Gotch's ideals and made it profitable in his vision.
Johnny Grube cannot write too well and comes off as an asshole who is so inept with his style of training that anything outside of it makes someone look like a pussy in his eyes. I can't stand him and his beliefs but his ideas on some training aspects I can deal with.
Authors come and go, there will be no such thing as the GOAT of all fitness courses and things keep changing and not always for the better. We live in an age where technology runs rampant and it often times overshadows the world as a whole.
I say, take what you can make the best of and kick ass in it. If you don't like certain exercises, don't do them. If people want to spend money on courses, let them do it, if it doesn't work out for them they'll move on and learn from it. Life is messed up as it is and it's important to find what brings out the best in ourselves.
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