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Post by Michael on Sept 30, 2022 10:46:55 GMT
Thanks Stuke! I'm going to check this out after work. , shoulders would be what I try if for if it's do able for me.
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Post by stuke on Sept 30, 2022 12:38:25 GMT
No probs Michael. I think shoulders wouldbe an ideal muscle to try it with, but if it was me, I would avoid overhead press,I would use face pulls, side raises both standing and laying, and monkey rows as they were called in another thread. lighter weight, higher reps, constant tension and drop sets, steer clear of failure and use short, more pumping workouts for shoulders, at least 4 times a week, preferably every day or maybe a day or two off.
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Post by moxohol on Sept 30, 2022 21:31:39 GMT
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Post by carlson on Sept 30, 2022 21:41:55 GMT
Just watching this video about nucleus overload training, which kind of pulls it apart. Doesn't matter to me, I think this guy misses the point here and there maybe, but regardless of what is actually going on during this training, it most definitely produced lasting results for me with my traps. I should try it for biceps. Dumbass medieval dickweed spuke went and didnt do it again, the pungent scarab. He forgot to add a link for a second time. Good job old carlson is ten times the man and therefore ten times better at adding links. Here's to you all, you jabroni wannabes you.
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Post by jonrock on Oct 1, 2022 7:46:20 GMT
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Post by Michael on Oct 1, 2022 13:55:34 GMT
No probs Michael. I think shoulders wouldbe an ideal muscle to try it with, but if it was me, I would avoid overhead press,I would use face pulls, side raises both standing and laying, and monkey rows as they were called in another thread. lighter weight, higher reps, constant tension and drop sets, steer clear of failure and use short, more pumping workouts for shoulders, at least 4 times a week, preferably every day or maybe a day or two off. If You were to do this with shoulders would You switch exercises everyday? Example, face pulls day 1, side raises day 2, monkey raises day 3? After I finish my experiments that I'm doing now I'm definitely going to give this a go. In that video that Carlson posted that guy explains it different and he kept on mentioning 10x10 which originated from Vince Gironda. That 10x10 is not meant to do everyday. Here is an article from the guy that came up with the Nucleus Overload: www.team3dalpha.com/articles/nucleusoverload " Nucleus Overload is the 30-day program I designed several years ago to accelerate muscle growth in natural lifters. It revolves around training a muscle several times a week for 4 weeks, with short rest periods and high repetitions, followed by a 1-2 week break (no more than 5 min total, about 5 sets @ RPE 9 each, using moderate loads in the 15-30 rep range to maximize the pump and minimize injury risk and excessive muscle damage)" That's why I don't listen to people that say something doesn't work. I'd rather find out myself like You did with tis protocol. Interesting Stuff Stuke, Thanks for mentioning it.
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Post by stuke on Oct 1, 2022 14:45:21 GMT
No probs Michael. I think shoulders wouldbe an ideal muscle to try it with, but if it was me, I would avoid overhead press,I would use face pulls, side raises both standing and laying, and monkey rows as they were called in another thread. lighter weight, higher reps, constant tension and drop sets, steer clear of failure and use short, more pumping workouts for shoulders, at least 4 times a week, preferably every day or maybe a day or two off. If You were to do this with shoulders would You switch exercises everyday? Example, face pulls day 1, side raises day 2, monkey raises day 3? After I finish my experiments that I'm doing now I'm definitely going to give this a go. In that video that Carlson posted that guy explains it different and he kept on mentioning 10x10 which originated from Vince Gironda. That 10x10 is not meant to do everyday. Here is an article from the guy that came up with the Nucleus Overload: www.team3dalpha.com/articles/nucleusoverload " Nucleus Overload is the 30-day program I designed several years ago to accelerate muscle growth in natural lifters. It revolves around training a muscle several times a week for 4 weeks, with short rest periods and high repetitions, followed by a 1-2 week break (no more than 5 min total, about 5 sets @ RPE 9 each, using moderate loads in the 15-30 rep range to maximize the pump and minimize injury risk and excessive muscle damage)" That's why I don't listen to people that say something doesn't work. I'd rather find out myself like You did with tis protocol. Interesting Stuff Stuke, Thanks for mentioning it. You could do that, yes, I think there is a fair bit of crossover for the delt heads with those exercises, or you could do say a couole of sets of one, then straight inot 2 sets of another etc, maybe even like a drop set. I really think the only requirements are not too intense,very short, pumping workouts done regular. Yes, I think the guy who was discrediting it did not quite get the methods right. I know the 3D Alpha fella mumbles quite a bit, but I think he did some really good videos, and as you say, you can try it and judge how it worked for yourself.
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Post by moxohol on Oct 2, 2022 1:31:46 GMT
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Post by Michael on Oct 2, 2022 13:43:29 GMT
If You were to do this with shoulders would You switch exercises everyday? Example, face pulls day 1, side raises day 2, monkey raises day 3? After I finish my experiments that I'm doing now I'm definitely going to give this a go. In that video that Carlson posted that guy explains it different and he kept on mentioning 10x10 which originated from Vince Gironda. That 10x10 is not meant to do everyday. Here is an article from the guy that came up with the Nucleus Overload: www.team3dalpha.com/articles/nucleusoverload " Nucleus Overload is the 30-day program I designed several years ago to accelerate muscle growth in natural lifters. It revolves around training a muscle several times a week for 4 weeks, with short rest periods and high repetitions, followed by a 1-2 week break (no more than 5 min total, about 5 sets @ RPE 9 each, using moderate loads in the 15-30 rep range to maximize the pump and minimize injury risk and excessive muscle damage)" That's why I don't listen to people that say something doesn't work. I'd rather find out myself like You did with tis protocol. Interesting Stuff Stuke, Thanks for mentioning it. You could do that, yes, I think there is a fair bit of crossover for the delt heads with those exercises, or you could do say a couole of sets of one, then straight inot 2 sets of another etc, maybe even like a drop set. I really think the only requirements are not too intense,very short, pumping workouts done regular. Yes, I think the guy who was discrediting it did not quite get the methods right. I know the 3D Alpha fella mumbles quite a bit, but I think he did some really good videos, and as you say, you can try it and judge how it worked for yourself. When You did Your Traps did You train the rest of Your body the same or did You make changes? Maybe lower the volume, trained the rest of the body less per week, etc...?
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Post by Michael on Oct 2, 2022 18:43:13 GMT
Stuke I found this on Reddit. Seems like he recommends full body sessions 3 to 6 times a week while doing Nucleus Overload on lagging body part.
https://www.reddit.com/r/team3dalpha/comments/sr2ymp/maximizing_muscle_hypertrophy_naturally_top_15/
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Post by stuke on Oct 2, 2022 21:23:47 GMT
You could do that, yes, I think there is a fair bit of crossover for the delt heads with those exercises, or you could do say a couole of sets of one, then straight inot 2 sets of another etc, maybe even like a drop set. I really think the only requirements are not too intense,very short, pumping workouts done regular. Yes, I think the guy who was discrediting it did not quite get the methods right. I know the 3D Alpha fella mumbles quite a bit, but I think he did some really good videos, and as you say, you can try it and judge how it worked for yourself. When You did Your Traps did You train the rest of Your body the same or did You make changes? Maybe lower the volume, trained the rest of the body less per week, etc...? To be honest, everything else took a backseat. That's not to say I didn't work any other muscles, I did, but just once a week for each muscle and nothing too intense, not much volume. I think you need to prioritise the target muscle and put the greater part of uou resources into that, it's only for a few weeks.
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Post by Magnus on Oct 2, 2022 22:30:51 GMT
Just watching this video about nucleus overload training... Dumbass medieval dickweed spuke... Yes I'll admit I didn't go through every post in this thread, but why is the jabroni in the video working out in a mask ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 3, 2022 23:26:24 GMT
Stuke where is the video? I've seen different philosophies on nucleus overload training. I'd be interested to see the video. Here's one I found. The "Team 3D Alpha" guy suffers from the same unfortunate delusion as Pete Wagner. He (Team 3D Alpha) thinks he's found something no one else knows about and wants to be your guru. I told Pete something like that (I don't remember the exact words), which may be another reason he left. Not that "Team 3D Alpha" has no good ideas. I think he does, just as Pete did, but worshiping your own "greatness" is not going to communicate to many people, in spite of how amazing the ideas are.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 4, 2022 0:13:24 GMT
OTOH, here's Gilbert Gottfried who thinks that Team 3D Alpha has no good ideas, I guess?
Not that I care either way, but the drama is somewhat entertaining.
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