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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 29, 2022 13:58:59 GMT
....... I just watch that video You posted and there isn't much if at all twisting. ........  |
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Post by Michael on Sept 29, 2022 17:42:17 GMT
....... I just watch that video You posted and there isn't much if at all twisting. ........ What the hell is Your problem? Seems like You have a hard on for everything I post. Remember when Baz told you too stop acting like a little girl. Why don't You? |
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Post by Michael on Sept 29, 2022 17:45:58 GMT
Because I've listen to TR about Stuart McGill'S concept's.......................................................If you plan to load the spine and are exercising to build sufficient muscle to lock it in place, you can train oblique strength without twisting by doing asymmetric carries such as farmer's walk." www.ideafit.com/personal-training/the-painful-lumbar-spine/Who is" TR"? Yeah. Stuart McGill is a canuck BTW & I swear by his "Big 3" when I blew my lower back out during missionary sex. I really got extra mileage working my glutes hard to take that load off my back. Now, I have an incredibly sexy ass that attracts both genders at the gym. @¿@ The video I posted is what I use for neuromuscular re-education. I don't use everything in it. I cherry pick what applies to my needs. I'm only a fanatic about fasting as u well know. I'm flexible about training though. I'm constantly changing up my training schedule if u haven't noticed by now. The whole point is to get my ass MOVING other than have it nested in the sofa like a robin all day while working away on my laptop. 🤣🤣🤣 TR is Texas Ranger that posts here sometimes. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 29, 2022 17:51:14 GMT
....... "McGill believes there is a tradeoff between strength and flexibility in the spine, because stretching works by making the annulus between the discs more gooey, which makes it perform worse under load. If you plan to load the spine and are exercising to build sufficient muscle to lock it in place, you can train oblique strength without twisting by doing asymmetric carries such as farmer's walk." www.ideafit.com/personal-training/the-painful-lumbar-spine/That article has some good exercises in it. Thanks for sharing! Isn't the illustration shown as "B. Farmers Walk" usually known as the "suitcase carry"? I've always understood the farmers walk to be both hands loaded and the suitcase carry to be a one hand/alternating arm carry. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 29, 2022 17:52:27 GMT
What the hell is Your problem? Seems like You have a hard on for everything I post. Remember when Baz told you too stop acting like a little girl. Why don't You? Not only is it all twisting exercise, he even says so multiple times, so, your comment made me laugh. |
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Post by Michael on Sept 29, 2022 18:13:29 GMT
....... "McGill believes there is a tradeoff between strength and flexibility in the spine, because stretching works by making the annulus between the discs more gooey, which makes it perform worse under load. If you plan to load the spine and are exercising to build sufficient muscle to lock it in place, you can train oblique strength without twisting by doing asymmetric carries such as farmer's walk." www.ideafit.com/personal-training/the-painful-lumbar-spine/That article has some good exercises in it. Thanks for sharing! Isn't the illustration shown as "B. Farmers Walk" usually known as the "suitcase carry"? I've always understood the farmers walk to be both hands loaded and the suitcase carry to be a one hand/alternating arm carry. That's the way I always understood and went by for my own reference. As far as I'm concern that illustration is a suitcase carry not a farmers walk. Everyone I ever seen do both would agree with us. I'm not going to quote You in another post so I'll address it here. Sometimes I can't listen to sound on videos, I'm not going to explain why. I did not have sound on that video. To me it didn't look like they were twisting to much and it was kind of easy movement. I have no problem doing works stuff because of the McGill exercises and KB swings. I've even been boxing again with no problems. Because of a recommendation I've tried to do them 8 Brocades and stuff like Mix posted. Every time I try to get started with this kind of stuff my back gets jacked up. So I just don't mess with twisting stuff. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 29, 2022 18:38:19 GMT
Like you always say, you gotta do what works for you.
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Post by stuke on Sept 29, 2022 20:34:37 GMT
There are so many tips out there, a lot of rubbish but sometimes you find something that works for you. For me, one thing that made a noticeabee difference to my physique was nucleus overload training. This video in particular because I used it for trainjng traps, and I covered this in a thread some time back.
Bear in mind I have trained for 30 odd years and not made any noticeable gains for many years (not that I was really chasing for gains). Anyway, I gave thos a go, did partial trap bar deadlifts, shrugs, overhead shrugs, one arm pulls (using a dumbbell, sort of a pull / angled row, pulling the bar to my chin) and timed holds with the trapbar, sometimes normal bar.
I would do the shrugs etc often, but thr timed holds were most days, with around 5 mins total holds each day. I did all this for a few weeks, never to failure and then had a week or two off and back to normal once or twice a week trap training.
My traps certainly improved, noticeable in clothing too.
Now I suspect the theory is correct, but to be fair, maybe it was just that I had never put too much emphasis on traps for much if my training life, except with deadlifts.
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Post by Michael on Sept 29, 2022 22:55:02 GMT
There are so many tips out there, a lot of rubbish but sometimes you find something that works for you. For me, one thing that made a noticeabee difference to my physique was nucleus overload training. This video in particular because I used it for trainjng traps, and I covered this in a thread some time back. Bear in mind I have trained for 30 odd years and not made any noticeable gains for many years (not that I was really chasing for gains). Anyway, I gave thos a go, did partial trap bar deadlifts, shrugs, overhead shrugs, one arm pulls (using a dumbbell, sort of a pull / angled row, pulling the bar to my chin) and timed holds with the trapbar, sometimes normal bar. I would do the shrugs etc often, but thr timed holds were most days, with around 5 mins total holds each day. I did all this for a few weeks, never to failure and then had a week or two off and back to normal once or twice a week trap training. My traps certainly improved, noticeable in clothing too. Now I suspect the theory is correct, but to be fair, maybe it was just that I had never put too much emphasis on traps for much if my training life, except with deadlifts. Stuke where is the video? I've seen different philosophies on nucleus overload training. I'd be interested to see the video. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 23:01:18 GMT
There are so many tips out there, a lot of rubbish but sometimes you find something that works for you. For me, one thing that made a noticeabee difference to my physique was nucleus overload training. This video in particular because I used it for trainjng traps, and I covered this in a thread some time back. Bear in mind I have trained for 30 odd years and not made any noticeable gains for many years (not that I was really chasing for gains). Anyway, I gave thos a go, did partial trap bar deadlifts, shrugs, overhead shrugs, one arm pulls (using a dumbbell, sort of a pull / angled row, pulling the bar to my chin) and timed holds with the trapbar, sometimes normal bar. I would do the shrugs etc often, but thr timed holds were most days, with around 5 mins total holds each day. I did all this for a few weeks, never to failure and then had a week or two off and back to normal once or twice a week trap training. My traps certainly improved, noticeable in clothing too. Now I suspect the theory is correct, but to be fair, maybe it was just that I had never put too much emphasis on traps for much if my training life, except with deadlifts. Stuke where is the video? I've seen different philosophies on nucleus overload training. I'd be interested to see the video. Here's one I found. |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Sept 30, 2022 5:16:03 GMT
Now, I have an incredibly sexy ass that attracts both genders at the gym. @¿@  |
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Post by stuke on Sept 30, 2022 5:42:14 GMT
There are so many tips out there, a lot of rubbish but sometimes you find something that works for you. For me, one thing that made a noticeabee difference to my physique was nucleus overload training. This video in particular because I used it for trainjng traps, and I covered this in a thread some time back. Bear in mind I have trained for 30 odd years and not made any noticeable gains for many years (not that I was really chasing for gains). Anyway, I gave thos a go, did partial trap bar deadlifts, shrugs, overhead shrugs, one arm pulls (using a dumbbell, sort of a pull / angled row, pulling the bar to my chin) and timed holds with the trapbar, sometimes normal bar. I would do the shrugs etc often, but thr timed holds were most days, with around 5 mins total holds each day. I did all this for a few weeks, never to failure and then had a week or two off and back to normal once or twice a week trap training. My traps certainly improved, noticeable in clothing too. Now I suspect the theory is correct, but to be fair, maybe it was just that I had never put too much emphasis on traps for much if my training life, except with deadlifts. Stuke where is the video? I've seen different philosophies on nucleus overload training. I'd be interested to see the video. Sorry Michael, what a bloody fool, forgot to add the link! This is the traps specific one, but the guy has quite a few. |
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Post by stuke on Sept 30, 2022 5:47:05 GMT
The theory is good, the examoles and cases provided are good too, but for me, more than anything, the personal experience is the icing on the cake. Of course, it isn't proof for anyone, perhaos if I had worked my traps twice a week with intensity, volume and consistency I would have had the same gains.
If the theory is correct, one of the greqt thungs is that the gains remain, or more correctly, the 'blueprint' remains and even if you do stop training and lose some size, once you start training again, they come back.
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Post by stuke on Sept 30, 2022 5:49:03 GMT
Can't say it is working for calves, though I suppose I am not quite training in this manner (not training them at all right now due to injuring my left knee).
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Post by stuke on Sept 30, 2022 9:55:14 GMT
Just watching this video about nucleus overload training, which kind of pulls it apart. Doesn't matter to me, I think this guy misses the point here and there maybe, but regardless of what is actually going on during this training, it most definitely produced lasting results for me with my traps. I should try it for biceps.
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