macky
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Post by macky on Jun 10, 2021 20:23:59 GMT
"All that has to happen is that a magistrate or judge signs a report presented by a psychiatrist and you will be locked up without any rights whatsoever. They'll do whatever they want with you, and nothing you say will have any effect because the Shrink has diagnosed you as insane, therefore non compos mentis. You won't have any consent for anything. That will be irrelevant. You can screech all you like about your unalienable rights and nobody will listen." I believe that all the talk about defunding police and using those, and other fundings, for mental health is going to be a huge step into doing what you said above. Once declared 'incompetent', they can do anything to you - take your money, property, etc. Also, those that would have once been jailed for criminal infractions will be put somewhere. Maybe asylums will replace jails. It's already all around the news about those kids stealing cars and killing old adults for no reason have done so because they are mentally troubled due to their surroundings in the 'hood' (you're not a criminal you're just crazy). The Great Reset maybe? History repeats itself. Dr. Semmelweis touted washing hands to reduce infant mortality supposedly suffered a nervous breakdown and was committed to an asylum by his colleagues. The so-called pandemic, racial issues, changes in political party power - it's all tied together. Diagnosing mental illness and subsequent incarceration has always been a loophole that Authority could use to get rid of someone who wasn't towing the current party line.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 11, 2021 0:21:50 GMT
If it's theory, how do we know that it's correct, m8? Because you said it, m8. And I believe you are right, in theory. But practice is often different. I appreciate your support, m8. Although, it's when I'm wrong or don't know that I learn something. From what I'm observing, current practice is proving the effectiveness of common law savvy.
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Post by macky on Jun 11, 2021 6:21:29 GMT
Because you said it, m8. And I believe you are right, in theory. But practice is often different. I appreciate your support, m8. Although, it's when I'm wrong or don't know that I learn something. From what I'm observing, current practice is proving the effectiveness of common law savvy. Sure. What you're observing. But what about persons quietly disappearing from the everyday scene, now and then ? You most likely won't observe that, nor will you know where they went. Remember I spent years going out to a mental hospital just about every week, not only for repairs to phones, but installing phones and exchange switches in the many villas. Many patients that were not "permanents" came and went, entirely at the say-so of the resident psychiatrist(s), except for volunteer patients recovering from alcoholism etc. I had one of my brothers-in-law committed for many reasons, and his rights became non-existent. Just like that.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 11, 2021 9:38:57 GMT
I appreciate your support, m8. Although, it's when I'm wrong or don't know that I learn something. From what I'm observing, current practice is proving the effectiveness of common law savvy. Sure. What you're observing. But what about persons quietly disappearing from the everyday scene, now and then ? You most likely won't observe that, nor will you know where they went. Remember I spent years going out to a mental hospital just about every week, not only for repairs to phones, but installing phones and exchange switches in the many villas. Many patients that were not "permanents" came and went, entirely at the say-so of the resident psychiatrist(s), except for volunteer patients recovering from alcoholism etc. I had one of my brothers-in-law committed for many reasons, and his rights became non-existent. Just like that. It is illegal for someone to harm another person or their property. Perhaps your brother-in-law wasn't innocent of that? Perhaps he didn't treat others with consideration?
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 11, 2021 15:33:56 GMT
...... But what about persons quietly disappearing from the everyday scene, now and then ? You most likely won't observe that, nor will you know where they went. ..... Chuck Norris knows, so I let him handle that. He knows where every boogey man, alien and lizard person is and they don't even think about screwing with him.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 18, 2021 17:15:18 GMT
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Post by macky on Jun 18, 2021 19:51:53 GMT
Sure. What you're observing. But what about persons quietly disappearing from the everyday scene, now and then ? You most likely won't observe that, nor will you know where they went. Remember I spent years going out to a mental hospital just about every week, not only for repairs to phones, but installing phones and exchange switches in the many villas. Many patients that were not "permanents" came and went, entirely at the say-so of the resident psychiatrist(s), except for volunteer patients recovering from alcoholism etc. I had one of my brothers-in-law committed for many reasons, and his rights became non-existent. Just like that. It is illegal for someone to harm another person or their property. Perhaps your brother-in-law wasn't innocent of that? Perhaps he didn't treat others with consideration? No he was gentle to others and never hurt anyone. Once a magistrate signs the form your rights are non-existent and the shrinks can do anything they want. The villas are locked and the patients are only let outside under strict supervision. Some of them have a bit more freedom at certain times of the day. They were sometimes seen having it off in the grass outside or kneeling on the lawn prostrating with loud prayers, or up to some clandestine activity that was clearly visible to others, and which only they knew. There's another Commission of enquiry under way on the Lake Alice systematic abuse and torture of patients, many of whom were not even insane, but "dropped off" at the mental hospital, from broken homes etc. For some, it'll be 40 years too late, the complaints at the time laughed at by the courts and govts of the day. You know.....the ravings of someone who's mentally deranged etc. Check out your own country's procedures on committing someone who's been "diagnosed" with a mental disorder that "requires hospital care" if you want to. Could be interesting to find out just how close is any "ordinary: citizen to having all their rights removed (effectively).
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 18, 2021 20:42:20 GMT
It is illegal for someone to harm another person or their property. Perhaps your brother-in-law wasn't innocent of that? Perhaps he didn't treat others with consideration? No he was gentle to others and never hurt anyone. Once a magistrate signs the form your rights are non-existent and the shrinks can do anything they want. The villas are locked and the patients are only let outside under strict supervision. Some of them have a bit more freedom at certain times of the day. They were sometimes seen having it off in the grass outside or kneeling on the lawn prostrating with loud prayers, or up to some clandestine activity that was clearly visible to others, and which only they knew. There's another Commission of enquiry under way on the Lake Alice systematic abuse and torture of patients, many of whom were not even insane, but "dropped off" at the mental hospital, from broken homes etc. For some, it'll be 40 years too late, the complaints at the time laughed at by the courts and govts of the day. You know.....the ravings of someone who's mentally deranged etc. Check out your own country's procedures on committing someone who's been "diagnosed" with a mental disorder that "requires hospital care" if you want to. Could be interesting to find out just how close is any "ordinary: citizen to having all their rights removed (effectively). You're talking about civil court proceedings. Not a concern. They cannot remove anyone's unalienable rights because they cannot be liened. In order for someone to face legal action, probable cause must be shown. A crime of trespass against person or their property (same thing) must have been committed. So, if you can share, what was the probable cause for action? EDIT: I understand that the circumstances could be sensitive that you'd rather not share it here. I'm just curious.
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Post by moxohol on May 24, 2023 9:42:21 GMT
My focus is not about the guns which I have contrarian views about them. It’s the complete ease of administrative law or policy that’s enforced of turning ordinary people into criminals on the fly & the manner in which they do it. Canada hasn’t had the same issues about guns until recently & it has traditionally aligned her policies more in line with those of the UK.
It’s “lawfare” at its worst & why I wouldn’t choose to live in America unless I was opening a business there. On that note I’m switching to euros in lieu of dollars as payment for my services. It’s unbelievable how quickly this Ukrainian proxy war has galvanized much of ME & asia to de-dollarize. It’s no longer a question of “if” anymore but how soon.
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