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Post by brothersteve on Jun 9, 2021 14:02:10 GMT
Some fun quotes from Henry Kissinger that are telling of American politics;
“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.”
“Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.”
“It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.”
“America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”
“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”
“The issues are too important to be left for the voters.”
“A country that demands moral perfection in its foreign policy will achieve neither perfection nor security”
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 9, 2021 14:21:53 GMT
I've been wanting to post this thought for a while but always forget. We don't own a television and haven't in probably 15 years. The only time I watch television is when staying in a hotel on vacation (wife likes those house shows) or visiting and staying with someone who owns and uses a television. During a couple recent trips to California, I stayed with my brother and they have a television in each room. They're always on with one movie after another appearing. When visiting, I actually spent time in the living room with the television on and couldn't believe all the killing stuff that's on these movies. I'm not used to watching stuff like that. Nonetheless, while taking this stuff in, I couldn't help imagine that it must in some way make people who watch this stuff all the time numb to killings and people getting blown up. It's got to have some negative affect on the psyche of people who watch this crap all the time. I get my television equivalent stuff on YouTube and have made a business decision that I'm going to be watching the 2021 Summer Olympics. I'm cherry picking the events that interest me but skip opening and closing ceremonies because I can imagine the nonsense there that'll be on display. Everyone has free will to watch or not watch what television provides and that's the way it should be but the stuff I glanced at on television was absolutely terrible in my mind. Obviously my brother things differently. When I moved out on my own, I had a television for public access stations only and mainly watched the news after work. I never had cable TV. When my wife and I married we decided not to have TV. It had broke and we did not replace it. When the children came, we decided to not have a TV and only used the computer to find educational programs and run videos we had and purchased. M parents moved in next door several years ago and have multiple TV's and cable. I would go there every early evening after dinner to see them and the news was always on. For about 2 hours I also saw nothing but horrible stories of plane crashes, fires, and senseless beatings and killings. I would leave upset and angry at why this all was allowed to happen in modern times. I remembered the 'good news' days in the Reagan era, with good music as well on the radio. Times have changed and not for the better. It is being not only allowed, but thrust upon us. I agree with you about the freedom to watch things, but with restrictions and certain censorship as it seems the lack of such is only giving rise to harmful issues disrupting peace in our nation. I am speaking of those who are easily brainwashed by the MSM and who become extremely emotional about things they see and hear to the extent they take out their rage on the innocent public. My late uncle always called the TV the 'idiot box' because it took people away from actually doing things and visiting with people and hypnotized them into paralysis on a chair or couch for hours.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 9, 2021 17:17:35 GMT
.... The Constitution is also certainly a large part of your argument re gun control or the lack of. If martial law is declared, said Constitution is suspended. That can happen at any time. Martial law is declared, the military move in and clean the place up, house by house, city by city. Then martial law is stood down and the Constitution restored. The military might not get every single gun or crim, but they certainly will get the bulk of them. .... Nope. The authority of the Constitution is unaffected by martial law and the government is still required to abide by its restrictions. The Bill of Rights is still in effect during martial law. Every citizen is guaranteed to be secure in their home, free from illegal search and seizure, even during martial law. The County Sheriff is the supreme authority, working for and elected by the people, who can stop any other law enforcement agency from any action against any citizen at any time, including martial law, by merely telling them to go away, which they must obey. The Sheriff has more power in his county than the president of the US and his sheriff oath is to the people exclusively. A good book, quick read (50 pages) is "County Sheriff America's Last Hope" by Sheriff Richard Mack. Read it. Educate yourself on common law. Sheriff Mack's book is written for sheriffs, but it will help you to understand too.
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Post by macky on Jun 9, 2021 19:12:26 GMT
.... The Constitution is also certainly a large part of your argument re gun control or the lack of. If martial law is declared, said Constitution is suspended. That can happen at any time. Martial law is declared, the military move in and clean the place up, house by house, city by city. Then martial law is stood down and the Constitution restored. The military might not get every single gun or crim, but they certainly will get the bulk of them. .... Nope. The authority of the Constitution is unaffected by martial law and the government is still required to abide by its restrictions. The Bill of Rights is still in effect during martial law. Every citizen is guaranteed to be secure in their home, free from illegal search and seizure, even during martial law. The County Sheriff is the supreme authority, working for and elected by the people, who can stop any other law enforcement agency from any action against any citizen at any time, including martial law, by merely telling them to go away, which they must obey. The Sheriff has more power in his county than the president of the US and his sheriff oath is to the people exclusively. A good book, quick read (50 pages) is "County Sheriff America's Last Hope" by Sheriff Richard Mack. Read it. Educate yourself on common law. Sheriff Mack's book is written for sheriffs, but it will help you to understand too. What you're talking about is the ideal situation re common law and the Constitution. If the PTB decide to move the military in any way and get the Prez to declare martial law, they'll do it, and all the arguing about the matter will fly out the window. Remember that the laws of our countries etc are only for The People to follow, not the hierarchy. They do what the hell they want. Treason for example. And if the military are ordered into your home to search and detain, they'll do it. Remember that after 9-11 there were thousands of intrusions into homes and detainments for questioning, and martial law wasn't even declared (if I remember right), so all the rules of whatever are swept aside when there's such a horrific series of attacks that nobody can think straight except a few cool heads whose questionings are drowned in the uproar of the MSM. I got seven years of it in a forum which is supposed to be skeptical and scientific. The presentation of solid evidence against the Official Story, and the rules of logic often disappeared in howls of ad hominem attacks and when that failed, silence. And that was only on a forum of debate, never mind actual action. If the PTB get The People wound up enough like they did after 9-11, they'll have "licence" to do anything they want. And The People will welcome them on the back of a "national emergency". BY YOUR OWN EXCELLENT RESEARCH RE COVID AND THE VACCINE, THAT'S WHAT THE PTB ARE DOING NOW.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 9, 2021 20:31:32 GMT
I'm not a slave. Not owned by anyone or any corporation. Un a-lien-able rights, my rights are not lienable. I don't give them away and they cannot be taken from me without MY CONSENT because I'm a flesh and blood human being. These rights are embodied in the first 10 amendments to the Constitution, The Bill Of Rights. Same applies to everyone around the world, even without the US Constitution, the unalienable rights are the same. Fortunately, millions are waking up to that fact. Make your own choice.
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Post by macky on Jun 9, 2021 20:55:53 GMT
I'm not a slave. Not owned by anyone or any corporation. Un a-lien-able rights, my rights are not lienable. I don't give them away and they cannot be taken from me without MY CONSENT because I'm a flesh and blood human being. These rights are embodied in the first 10 amendments to the Constitution, The Bill Of Rights. Same applies to everyone around the world, even without the US Constitution, the unalienable rights are the same. Fortunately, millions are waking up to that fact. Make your own choice. You still don't seem to get it, mikey. All that has to happen is that a magistrate or judge signs a report presented by a psychiatrist and you will be locked up without any rights whatsoever. They'll do whatever they want with you, and nothing you say will have any effect because the Shrink has diagnosed you as insane, therefore non compos mentis. You won't have any consent for anything. That will be irrelevant. You can screech all you like about your unalienable rights and nobody will listen. Do you not realize that ? And as far as crowd / neighbourhood / control is concerned, there are many instances where a person's rights have been ignored, with unauthorized police raids that included raiding a house and shooting unarmed people. The FBI ran Cointelpro on all sorts of people and organizations, directly against anything you're talking about re rights. I had an FBI file copy where the head of the FBI was addressing Congress and clearly stated that 150,000 FD-302 forms had been completed post 9-11. Many of those would have been "compulsory" interviews, and ALL of them would be subject to question simple because of the method of interview, and the "legal" process involving the FD-302 form at Courts of Enquiry etc. The FD-302 form itself and the process of its construction is directly against what you fondly imagine to apply in your society, re your "rights". You're talking about the ideal situation re your Constitution and unalienable rights. In America (and NZ) that's only a pipe dream. Like I said, the PTB do what the hell they want.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 9, 2021 20:58:28 GMT
No, you don't understand. My affadavit of status will include a psychiatric evaluation that establishes my sanity. No fear here, m8.
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Post by macky on Jun 9, 2021 21:10:31 GMT
No, you don't understand. My affadavit of status will include a psychiatric evaluation that establishes my sanity. No fear here, m8. Not if they want to "get" you. The shrink can say anything that suits. And his "diagnosis" will stick. The judge signs the report. You're gone. Make no mistake about it. Once "inside' they'll do what they want with you. My son-in-law fought the NZ govt for years to get an enquiry going into Lake Alice mental hospital mistreatment. That hasn't been confined only to one hospital either. jaapl.org/content/34/4/436
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 9, 2021 21:14:39 GMT
No, you don't understand. My affadavit of status will include a psychiatric evaluation that establishes my sanity. No fear here, m8. Not if they want to "get" you. The shrink can say anything that suits. And his "diagnosis" will stick. The judge signs the report. You're gone. Make no mistake about it. Once "inside' they'll do what they want with you. My son-in-law fought the NZ govt for years to get an enquiry going into Lake Alice mental hospital mistreatment. That hasn't been confined only to one hospital either. jaapl.org/content/34/4/436Sorry you don't get it, m8.
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Post by macky on Jun 9, 2021 21:38:51 GMT
I'll visit you on Sunday's when they let you outside for a bit of sunshine. I hope there's not too many marks on your head from the ECT.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 9, 2021 22:00:46 GMT
If a person is not studying common law, they're gonna be screwed, IMO.
Anyway, bring your drum and I'll have my harmonica. We'll make some music, m8!
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Post by macky on Jun 10, 2021 0:12:49 GMT
We always do, M8. But there's a slight difference between correct( yours) theory and actual practice, quite often. US history is full of those differences.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 10, 2021 2:51:41 GMT
If it's theory, how do we know that it's correct, m8?
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 10, 2021 14:17:34 GMT
I'm not a slave. Not owned by anyone or any corporation. Un a-lien-able rights, my rights are not lienable. I don't give them away and they cannot be taken from me without MY CONSENT because I'm a flesh and blood human being. These rights are embodied in the first 10 amendments to the Constitution, The Bill Of Rights. Same applies to everyone around the world, even without the US Constitution, the unalienable rights are the same. Fortunately, millions are waking up to that fact. Make your own choice. "All that has to happen is that a magistrate or judge signs a report presented by a psychiatrist and you will be locked up without any rights whatsoever. They'll do whatever they want with you, and nothing you say will have any effect because the Shrink has diagnosed you as insane, therefore non compos mentis. You won't have any consent for anything. That will be irrelevant. You can screech all you like about your unalienable rights and nobody will listen." I believe that all the talk about defunding police and using those, and other fundings, for mental health is going to be a huge step into doing what you said above. Once declared 'incompetent', they can do anything to you - take your money, property, etc. Also, those that would have once been jailed for criminal infractions will be put somewhere. Maybe asylums will replace jails. It's already all around the news about those kids stealing cars and killing old adults for no reason have done so because they are mentally troubled due to their surroundings in the 'hood' (you're not a criminal you're just crazy). The Great Reset maybe? History repeats itself. Dr. Semmelweis touted washing hands to reduce infant mortality supposedly suffered a nervous breakdown and was committed to an asylum by his colleagues. The so-called pandemic, racial issues, changes in political party power - it's all tied together.
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Post by macky on Jun 10, 2021 20:20:49 GMT
If it's theory, how do we know that it's correct, m8? Because you said it, m8. And I believe you are right, in theory. But practice is often different.
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