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Post by TexasRanger on Jun 2, 2020 0:13:24 GMT
One quick update: I spoke with a friend in Los Angeles -- his family's originally from Taiwan and have a small business near the rioting (key word -- no problem with the protesting), he lives around two miles away. His parents are in fear for their lives -- and WTF did they do to have to worry about their business of 40 years being burnt to the ground -- and he said he thought their curfew started at 4pm.
I seem to remember after Katrina when first responders were going in to rescue people who were trapped on rooftops, in attics (and couldn't get out) by boat, raft and getting shot at by AK-47s, Uzis. Another "WTF". And members of Black Water quietly showed up a couple of evenings, as I recall -- the shooting and attacks on the first responders came to a quick end.
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Post by billfish on Jun 2, 2020 0:19:10 GMT
macky I've always respected your opinion and still do.....be well my friend
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Post by macky on Jun 2, 2020 1:08:49 GMT
macky I've always respected your opinion and still do.....be well my friend It's essentially the same as yours, Matey. Any differences are due to our respective countries, more than anything else. That's one good thing about this forum and great bunch of guys. Everybody's got an intelligent perspective. Much better than the so-called skeptical site Skeptoid where most of the arguments were outlandish unproven distortions of the truth, or ongoing personal abuse in the absense of anything meaningful to say.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 2, 2020 5:24:28 GMT
The National Guard is present and on duty; like this video and appreciate their presence. Would like to buy every one of them breakfast in the morning.
In other news, went to one of my favorite parks this afternoon for a workout before curfew began. Banged out 100 burpees and then took a 3-mile walk. While walking, I saw a police officer parked. I gently approached him and after we made eye contact, he asked how he could help. I told him I just wanted to thank him for his good work keeping us safe. He replied with a sigh of gratitude for what I said and indicated that he appreciated the support. I continued my walk and he continued what he was doing.
Protesters were out and about this evening despite a curfew that began at 8:00 pm. Don't have any indication as of right now that there's been the rampant looting like last night. If there is, I hope the Guard goes for some target practice and gets a couple bulls eyes.
Just found this one to share what a punk and thug is really like alone with a serious weapon pointed at him:
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Post by jonrock on Jun 2, 2020 18:00:33 GMT
Very insightful words here. As with everything appearing on media (specially what is pushed ad nauseam), not only it is orchestrated but also serves a purpose.
I hope everyone here is ok and not suffering these "situations".
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Post by jonrock on Jun 2, 2020 18:13:31 GMT
Just seems like a good excuse for black people to get together and play the victim card again while waving black lives matter banners oh and to loot every store they come by . If black lives really mattered to black people then why don't they protest for all the black on black killings that happen all the time ? I'll tell you why because it don't fit the narrative of whitey killing black people and the victim card goes right out the window with the black lives matter banners too ! Cannot be more clearly expressed. As far as I know (mean read) jails in Europe and America where certain ethnic groups live show a desproportionate % of said ethnic groups vs "locals". Europe and America are forcibly being transformed into a shithole and we have to take it with a smile. 1984-time guys. And it is speeding.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 18:49:12 GMT
Jonrock I was locked up for 2 years 12 years ago and to be fair it was a mixed bag of people but i know people who have been locked up recently and they have told me that it is full of black, Asian and foreigners. A lot of the muslims inside also prey on the vulnerable white lads and force them to convert to Islam. White people are being mugged off and we just sit back like twats and take it and quite frankly I'm sick of it ! Now you got these looters in America kicking the absolute shit out of white people which is clearly racially motivated but nothing is said about it because people are too scared to speak up and say it how it fuckin is incase they get branded a racist for speaking up on it . White lives matter 🇬🇧🇬🇧
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Post by macky on Jun 2, 2020 19:01:26 GMT
I've always had the view that what happens in a country that was previously "stable" has been orchestrated by the traitors that run things from the top. Just as an example, I'm not against immigration per se, but if the country's health and welfare systems are being overrun, then why wasn't that taken into consideration before any bulk intake of immigrants allowed by the PTB ?
So what we have today in our countries (I presume the US as well) is our emergency departments in the hospitals full of turbans and others who can't or won't afford a doctor's appointment, the elderly among them living out their lives on welfare without ever contributing a singe cent to the economy, the others either taking the jobs for less than the born citizens can afford because of their expenses set up before the immigration started, and the rich among the immigrants buying up franchises such as petrol stations and dairy/groceries, having got rich on a largely taxless system of the country they've just come from.
And to top it all off, what jobs are left for the born citizens are shopped out to the very countries said immigrants have just come from.
I don't believe it's by accident. If ordinary people in the street like me recognize those things, then it is certain those who run the show certainly do. The next question is : What the hell are they up to ?
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Post by TexasRanger on Jun 2, 2020 19:03:12 GMT
Can I suggest there are three things at work in the US? (I won't speak for the UK, Germany, etc.) 1. Protestors. For those not from the US, our Constitution states in the 1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." So, those peaceful protestors calling out the murder of George Floyd are doing something I support, encourage and served in the military to defend as my family, Bruce, Bill, etc., etc. 2. Rioters, looters. Another story completely -- the destruction of property including cars, homes, businesses, public parks and buildings is breaking the law. In some states in the US, such as New York or Minnesota, the mayors made statements such as giving these individuals "breathing room" (DeBlasio, NYC) or did nearly zero to stop the destruction for at least two nights (Frey, Minneapolis). We see parts of Minneapolis look like a Middle East war zone as a result. In other states, when the rioting and looting started, the police and sometimes national guard immediately closed in arrested people, ran off individuals (some were eventually caught). 3. Terrorists. Four police officers were shot last night in St. Louis. An officer was stabbed in the neck on Saturday night. Shop owners drug outside of their stores and beaten nearly to death. Antifa is part of this -- their involvement has been growing since they were first identified in Portland, Oregon, in 2007. BLM is another. Two or three have been suggested to be part of this by the FBI to include radical Islamic groups in the NYC area. (The molotov cocktails thrown at police vehicles, officers or the defacing of synagogues in NYC was committed by people seen in keffiyehs based on pictures, videos.) We're also hearing from some liberal/left wing politicians it is the white supremacy (eg KKK) types doing this. Actor John Cusack posted a tweet claiming some guys on Harleys riding near the violence in downtown Chicago were Aryan Brotherhood (they had on leathers...didn't see any tatoos, patches when I looked at his video). I saw buildings burning, cars being trashed -- not a word of criticism on Cusack's Twitter page. The media (Macky's Washington Post, if I recall) is picking up on this rhetoric. Well, kind of. Now they're saying the Russians/Putin are behind this. Susan Rice -- she was the one that was lying about the Benghazi incident and still sticking by her lies -- is getting airtime making these claims. The CIA, FBI have said there's no evidence and she should shut up...no need to create issues that aren't there. (And Rice has been out of office for over 3 years and I believe Trump pulled her clearances based on her prior screw ups...how the hell would she know?) Lying Rice
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Post by macky on Jun 2, 2020 19:12:10 GMT
Hey TR. Don't associate me with endorsing left newspapers, okay ? What we were debating about on another thread re Trumps chronic lying has nothing to do with left or right, and anyway I posted someone from Fox news decrying Trump's lying. Fox is right-leaning according to your summary.
I endorse both left and right policies according to moderate levels.
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Post by macky on Jun 2, 2020 20:01:55 GMT
And by the way, if a peaceful demonstration is charged by police/military and broken up with violence, then that is the sign of a police state.
If "protestors" start throwing flaming petrol at anybody, and dangerous objects that could injure or kill, and beat up innocent people who are essentially helpless, then they should be shot dead, no questions.
Such individuals by their actions have given up their "rights" as citizens, or whatever else they call themselves. Police or military that have arrived to maintain law and order, and keep the peace, should not be either killed or maimed for the rest of their lives by those that take lethal actions against them. Innocent shop owners etc that have nothing to do with what is going on should not be dragged out and beaten to within an inch of their lives. Once again, resolute action by the police or military.
They want to play rough, so be it.
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Post by TexasRanger on Jun 2, 2020 20:03:19 GMT
Hey TR. Don't associate me with endorsing left newspapers, okay ? What we were debating about on another thread re Trumps chronic lying has nothing to do with left or right, and anyway I posted someone from Fox news decrying Trump's lying. Fox is right-leaning according to your summary. I endorse both left and right policies according to moderate levels. Macky, You're the one citing leftist media such as the Atlantic, the Washington Post as your sources for Trump's alleged "chronic lying". Citing a source is endorsing the integrity of that source. Further, you are 100% incorrect with regards to Trump being a chronic liar. Besides using bogus/biased sources as your reference which dismisses any credibility regarding their "facts", I posted multiple factual examples -- eg China's theft of US intellectual property -- where Trump is both right and finally standing up for US business interests and US security. His facts are 100% correct. Hard to be a chronic liar your accusers are biased and known for a litany of inaccurate information (along with being staunch supporters of Obama, Pelosi), and, there are countless examples of Trump being factually correct. BTW, one other point: many of the US media outlets receive their "news" from Media Matters. NBC, CNN and if I recall the Post, etc. Media Matters is funded and controlled by George Soros. His picture and bio was on their website until a few weeks ago, btw. Hmmm. George Soros also controls the US' Democratic party -- huge donor. Pretty f'd up as well. And BTW, the Politoco is EXTREMELY left-leaning: www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-soros-trump-231313
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Post by macky on Jun 2, 2020 20:06:37 GMT
TR
"Further, you are 100% incorrect with regards to Trump being a chronic liar."
Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear. Chronic liars are not to be trusted.
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Post by TexasRanger on Jun 2, 2020 20:23:31 GMT
TR "Further, you are 100% incorrect with regards to Trump being a chronic liar." Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear. Chronic liars are not to be trusted. Let me restate that sentence so you understand it: you, Macky, are wrong. Trump is NOT a chronic liar. Clearly, you don't know what the definition of a chronic liar is. Trump has his share of problems, but, I've objectively shown he is not a chronic liar.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 2, 2020 20:25:26 GMT
TR "Further, you are 100% incorrect with regards to Trump being a chronic liar." Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear. Chronic liars are not to be trusted. Read and comprehend, TR stated you are incorrect, although in your mind about that matter and your theories, who could know?
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