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Post by macky on May 20, 2020 7:52:52 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on May 20, 2020 11:45:38 GMT
From what I've heard, so far, the "coronavirus" is less deadly than seasonal flu.
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Post by pierinifitness on May 20, 2020 13:54:11 GMT
Macky, I read the letter in detail once President Trump tweeted it on his Twitter feed. I thought it was well-written and yes it was done by one of his professional staff writers. All Presidents do that. Maybe George Washington didn't but all politicians do so nothing new there. If you want President Trump news, go right to his Twitter feed because that's what the lamestream media does to get their news content. I figured this out long ago. Why should I waste time reading second hand news when I can get it directly? Of course, I will sometimes take a peek at CNN for entertainment value. I also have my preferred other sources that I go to besides his Twitter feed. Works for me. Try it, you might like it and you'll have an opportunity to reply. In fact, if you want to better understand how nasty many Americans are, read the comments posted there by his haters. Unbelievable content. I can't imagine that there are people who carry that much anger and hatred in their blood and minds. I believe it causes cancer and other health maladies.
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Post by mrdave100 on May 20, 2020 20:29:59 GMT
Thumbs up to Pierini’s suggestion. After you do that, watch the daily Whitehouse press briefings with Trump sometime, then compare it to how the press portrays it on the 6 o’clock news. Doesn’t matter which news station it is, they are all the same.
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Post by macky on May 20, 2020 23:19:46 GMT
...... In fact, if you want to better understand how nasty many Americans are, read the comments posted there by his haters. Unbelievable content. I can't imagine that there are people who carry that much anger and hatred in their blood and minds. I believe it causes cancer and other health maladies. You and others here are certainly right about "news" sources with their often distorted and inflammatory presentations. We've all commented here on that sort of things for a long time.
Thanks for the tips. In my seven years of posting into Skeptoid (before it shut down public comment), usually in opposition to Brian Dunning's almost unwavering support for the US govt Official Story, I posted not only logical debunks of some of his articles, but evidence against the Official Story using US govt agency files themselves.
Especially in the 9-11 US govt version of who the alleged perpetrators were, and the ringleader, who himself was never indicted for any 9-11 participation. That was all on FBI files, plus BTS files that clearly showed that Fl77 (for one) was scheduled that terrible morning (as always, it was a regular flight to LA) but did NOT depart.
Those files Btw were there to view for about 14 years until the penny dropped somewhere in the Power control gizmo and they were then changed. Another source I've used is in-your-face stuff like is found on Wiki, not always correct of course, but reasonably reliable. I don't often use Black Vault even though I regard it as a valuable source. The reason for that is I don't have to. The Truth is often staring at us in plain sight. Nor do I spend much time on such matters.
You are also right about nasty people. I believe the Net has enabled most of these nasty people to emerge from the woodwork and spray their hatred all around, while remaining relatively anonymous as they do so. They were always consumed by hatred and anger, but the Net enabled them to express all that mostly without any consequences for their actions.
That is one positive for the Net, that it has exposed the level of potential violence, anger and hatred that exists in our societies (not only America) today, and one of the prime reasons why whole populations have ended up manipulated and led into war and misery.
It's another reason why crowds are whipped up into frenzied states by powerful oratory by gifted speakers, as true today at Trump rallies (for one) as ever they were, with plenty of history to look back on.
I am also sure in line with your own thinking, that while not always, many cancers and other maladies have an emotional component in them, and there is plenty of evidence for that.
And as a personal example, I do not hate Trump at all. I like him actually. He will undoubtedly have positive things for others, but I just don't believe he's the right man for the job as President that's all, and his utterings (which cannot be argued about, he DID say those things, whoever reported them) speak of someone who I believe needs some medical intervention.
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Post by captkronos on May 22, 2020 20:48:52 GMT
"In fact, if you want to better understand how nasty many Americans are, read the comments posted there by his haters. Unbelievable content. I can't imagine that there are people who carry that much anger and hatred in their blood and minds. I believe it causes cancer and other health maladies."
"Hate corrodes the container it's carried around in" - George Bush
"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured." - Mark Twain
I have friends on FB of all views, races, and backgrounds. I have never "unfriended" any of them, but I have been unfriended by White Liberals I had known my entire life when they found out I voted Trump. F*** 'em if agreeing with them is the yardstick of their friendship.
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Post by macky on May 23, 2020 21:17:19 GMT
I have friends on FB of all views, races, and backgrounds. I have never "unfriended" any of them, but I have been unfriended by White Liberals I had known my entire life when they found out I voted Trump. F*** 'em if agreeing with them is the yardstick of their friendship. So true, Capitaine. Fair weather friends you can do without.
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Post by jrmeatplow on May 25, 2020 14:18:56 GMT
I have friends on FB of all views, races, and backgrounds. I have never "unfriended" any of them, but I have been unfriended by White Liberals I had known my entire life when they found out I voted Trump. F*** 'em if agreeing with them is the yardstick of their friendship. So true, Capitaine. Fair weather friends you can do without. Macky, I'm not going to go any further than this, if you truly want to find who the extremist are, you need to open your eyes to what the "loving" left really are. They are some of the most hate filled people I have ever encountered, but man do they like to paint the opposite picture until they don't get their way, and then watch out.
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Post by macky on May 25, 2020 23:25:27 GMT
So true, Capitaine. Fair weather friends you can do without. Macky, I'm not going to go any further than this, if you truly want to find who the extremist are, you need to open your eyes to what the "loving" left really are. They are some of the most hate filled people I have ever encountered, but man do they like to paint the opposite picture until they don't get their way, and then watch out. I have no doubt there is a great deal of hatred from the "left", as you put it, and once again we have an example of partisan division which serves the purpose of dividing a nation right down the middle, as the participants label themselves as either one or the other of basically two parties that at the last provide the illusion of democratic choice at election times. You may like to open your eyes as well, to the extreme right in your country (I presume you are American) and the violence they promote and cause. The key is not whether anybody is "left" or "right", but how far they will go to get their way. On both "sides" there are fanatics, and there always will be. Your country's neo-nazis are a shining example of "far-rightism". Even under "moderate" right-wing policies, the gap now between the few rich and the mass-poor is an example of a country well out of balance in any man's language. The problem with labeling yourself as either "left" or "right" is that you tend to ignore the not-so-good things that "your side" has done. As an example, take a look here and you find that almost every attempt at helping the environment "under Obama" has been walked back by Trump in his term as Prez. www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/You can see that once again the ones who benefit from such "walk-backs" are the Big Business people who (along with the Money Men, the Fed.Res.) don't give a rat's arse whether the US is under a "left" or "right" government. They don't have to answer to any govt, by and large, as Big Business has often funded govt members from both sides, "a dollar each way" in a sense, and the Federal Reserve is well outside any Congressional oversight, even to the point of dealing with foreign countries without any govt knowledge. There goes your democracy. That's another plain set of facts that may require a bit of eye-opening. At the end of the day, your vote may help things locally up to point, but in general it means sweet f'all. And at the last, the main theme of this thread was Trump's lack of response to a global emergency that is on the verge of 100,000 deaths in your country. He dithered and denied for six weeks, lost time which in just over a mere four months has resulted from a single reported case Jan 20, to 1.7 million cases as we speak. It's easy to sign away positive efforts to try and save Mankind from shitting in his own nest, at the behest of your Big Money cronies, but Trump (sometimes a Democrat himself) has failed his greatest test of his entire career, and it's got nothing to do with "left" or "right" about that.
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Post by jrmeatplow on May 26, 2020 10:16:29 GMT
Macky,
Am I correct in assuming you are not from the US?
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Post by macky on May 26, 2020 10:30:34 GMT
That's right jr. I'm in New Zealand.
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Post by mr potatohead on May 26, 2020 11:47:46 GMT
.... Your country's neo-nazis are a shining example of "far-rightism". ..... 1. .... As an example, take a look here and you find that almost every attempt at helping the environment "under Obama" has been walked back by Trump in his term as Prez. www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/ .... 2. .... And at the last, the main theme of this thread was Trump's lack of response to a global emergency that is on the verge of 100,000 deaths in your country. He dithered and denied for six weeks, lost time which in just over a mere four months has resulted from a single reported case Jan 20, to 1.7 million cases as we speak. .... 3. 1. So then, in the mind of the King of England, the US founding fathers and patriots were "neo-nazis". "Fanatics" who "promoted and caused violence". It's ridiculous to me to label someone as "neo-nazi" who is firmly against tyranny. 2. National Geographic is a soft liberal periodical. One blatant example of their leftist lean, among others, from that article is #14 which is assuming the nonsense BS that carbon gases cause global warming. Obama was one of the worst presidents we've had since Lincoln, IMO, but he was very slick - like Willy. 3. He asked his advisors and followed their "expert" recommendations as they made them. We might have avoided the greater evil of a huge expanse of collateral damage to mental/physical health, lives and economy, both now and into the future, if we had done what some other countries did and leave individuals to manage themselves while keeping the country open. More people would have been exposed, become sick, recover and be immune now. Plus, many more people would be alive since they would not have been subjected to that expanse of collateral damage which resulted from the assumed "pandemic" and subsequent shut down.
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Post by jrmeatplow on May 26, 2020 19:41:13 GMT
.... Your country's neo-nazis are a shining example of "far-rightism". ..... 1. .... As an example, take a look here and you find that almost every attempt at helping the environment "under Obama" has been walked back by Trump in his term as Prez. www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/ .... 2. .... And at the last, the main theme of this thread was Trump's lack of response to a global emergency that is on the verge of 100,000 deaths in your country. He dithered and denied for six weeks, lost time which in just over a mere four months has resulted from a single reported case Jan 20, to 1.7 million cases as we speak. .... 3. 1. So then, in the mind of the King of England, the US founding fathers and patriots were "neo-nazis". "Fanatics" who "promoted and caused violence". It's ridiculous to me to label someone as "neo-nazi" who is firmly against tyranny. 2. National Geographic is a soft liberal periodical. One blatant example of their leftist lean, among others, from that article is #14 which is assuming the nonsense BS that carbon gases cause global warming. Obama was one of the worst presidents we've had since Lincoln, IMO, but he was very slick - like Willy. 3. He asked his advisors and followed their "expert" recommendations as they made them. We might have avoided the greater evil of a huge expanse of collateral damage to mental/physical health, lives and economy, both now and into the future, if we had done what some other countries did and leave individuals to manage themselves while keeping the country open. More people would have been exposed, become sick, recover and be immune now. Plus, many more people would be alive since they would not have been subjected to that expanse of collateral damage which resulted from the assumed "pandemic" and subsequent shut down. When I see someone fly the "right wing neo-nazi" trash, I check out because its complete BS. Now that I know where Macky is from, I understand. No more for me to say in this thread as you are doing a fine job taternoggin!
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Post by macky on May 26, 2020 22:20:35 GMT
1. So then, in the mind of the King of England, the US founding fathers and patriots were "neo-nazis". "Fanatics" who "promoted and caused violence". It's ridiculous to me to label someone as "neo-nazi" who is firmly against tyranny. 2. National Geographic is a soft liberal periodical. One blatant example of their leftist lean, among others, from that article is #14 which is assuming the nonsense BS that carbon gases cause global warming. Obama was one of the worst presidents we've had since Lincoln, IMO, but he was very slick - like Willy. 3. He asked his advisors and followed their "expert" recommendations as they made them. We might have avoided the greater evil of a huge expanse of collateral damage to mental/physical health, lives and economy, both now and into the future, if we had done what some other countries did and leave individuals to manage themselves while keeping the country open. More people would have been exposed, become sick, recover and be immune now. Plus, many more people would be alive since they would not have been subjected to that expanse of collateral damage which resulted from the assumed "pandemic" and subsequent shut down. When I see someone fly the "right wing neo-nazi" trash, I check out because its complete BS. Now that I know where Macky is from, I understand. No more for me to say in this thread as you are doing a fine job taternoggin! You don't know where I'm from. I've brought examples of USA contradictions of "freedom and democracy" to more than one forum for many years. The illusion of democracy in a "two-party" system when the real power is held by a few at the top. In addition, Eugenics is firmly rooted in American history, and racism is still alive and well in the US mainland. The neo-nazis, for one group, express that as a fundamental tenet of their belief system and they are a pertinent force in America, with a large number of "quiet" sympathizers, and with connections to Europe, just as the American Eugenics movement had connections to Nazi Germany, especially in the 20s and 30s. Examine your own history before you label anything I've mentioned as complete bullshit. It's history that many would prefer to forget, once the extent to which Hitler had taken eugenics was known by the general public after WW2 when the German camps were "discovered". America has always had a fascist/nazi undercurrent (not the only country), the FBI's FD-302 form which has been in use at least during and since the Kennedy hit. Look it up, it's total Police State. The abuses of the CIA (approved by govts of the day, and people like Kissinger and Dulles) that undercut country's largely democratic govts and incited unrest and overthrow, and the installing of vicious fascist dictatorships that were more conducive to American corporate plundering of their country's assets etc, and the unethical long-standing ghastly experiments on America's own citizens (MKUltra for one) that had at least 80 universities working for the CIA, whether knowingly or not. Today with Covid 19 there is a prime opportunity to take the last rights from every citizen re quarantining and compulsory vaccination, once said vaccine is ready, whether safety tests have been done, or not. Under laws that are being enacted and passed, those that try and exercise their rights to refuse vaccination will be arrested and forced to have the vaccine. Then once everyone settles down to that new "fact of life", the way will be open to anything the PTB want. Individual rights will be curtailed by law, and rigidly enforced. "For the public good".
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Post by macky on May 26, 2020 22:27:11 GMT
.... Your country's neo-nazis are a shining example of "far-rightism". ..... 1. .... As an example, take a look here and you find that almost every attempt at helping the environment "under Obama" has been walked back by Trump in his term as Prez. www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/ .... 2. .... And at the last, the main theme of this thread was Trump's lack of response to a global emergency that is on the verge of 100,000 deaths in your country. He dithered and denied for six weeks, lost time which in just over a mere four months has resulted from a single reported case Jan 20, to 1.7 million cases as we speak. .... 3. 1. So then, in the mind of the King of England, the US founding fathers and patriots were "neo-nazis". "Fanatics" who "promoted and caused violence". It's ridiculous to me to label someone as "neo-nazi" who is firmly against tyranny. 2. National Geographic is a soft liberal periodical. One blatant example of their leftist lean, among others, from that article is #14 which is assuming the nonsense BS that carbon gases cause global warming. Obama was one of the worst presidents we've had since Lincoln, IMO, but he was very slick - like Willy. 3. He asked his advisors and followed their "expert" recommendations as they made them. We might have avoided the greater evil of a huge expanse of collateral damage to mental/physical health, lives and economy, both now and into the future, if we had done what some other countries did and leave individuals to manage themselves while keeping the country open. More people would have been exposed, become sick, recover and be immune now. Plus, many more people would be alive since they would not have been subjected to that expanse of collateral damage which resulted from the assumed "pandemic" and subsequent shut down. 1. Irrelevant. 2. Then you have to examine whether some magazine you deem "leftist" is telling the truth, and most importantly, whether everything they say is not true. "Obama" means nothing. Back to the partisan mindset again. 3. Trump is known NOT to have taken the advice of his advisors. All the rest is speculation. As I've just said, it's an opportunity to enact repressive totalitarian laws, as things stand now.
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