Michael
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Post by Michael on Jan 21, 2024 22:34:52 GMT
, States away. A poor man has to take a plane just to see him. Hah! Sadly, rumor has it from my contacts in the Twin Cities area that Mr. Peterson has relocated and some of the health issues related to his polio continue. His training has also allegedly changed as a result. Nothing known but my sources know people who know JP so this is 100% 3rd hand info. Hoping his health, personal life are not suffering. Yeah, hope he is ok.
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Post by whiffet on Jan 22, 2024 9:18:08 GMT
It is surprising how much digestive issues affect mental well being. I felt life wasn’t worth living when I was suffering for about 8 months. It was misery.
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Post by mrdave100 on Jan 22, 2024 10:32:39 GMT
Well there is still value in drinking store bought kefir. The fermented mushrooms come in capsules, they probably would be absolutely horrible tasting. Anyway, you need to get to a doctor, get a diagnosis, then consult naturopaths for alternative treatment. John e Peterson was (is) a naturopath. Just saying... Oh dear, I may need to reconsider my entire world view. 😆 TR, good to see you posting again.
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Post by mrdave100 on Jan 22, 2024 10:52:41 GMT
Here’s a perfect example of the risk with traditional medicine. My wife has been experiencing some pain in the region where no woman wants to be uncomfortable. After a week, it was time to go to a doctor because nothing had worked and it wasn’t getting better. So we believe that’s the time you go to a doctor to get a diagnosis because in this day and age the medical establishment is pretty good at diagnosing illnesses, not perfect, but very good. So after some tests and a physical examination, she has a bacterial infection. The doctor gives her a dose of the 2 medications to take right then until I can get the prescriptions filled the next day. My wife goes to take it, then something in the back of her mind told her to wait, so she palmed the medication and faked taking it. When we got home, she looked up the side effects. They were all the usual horrible things you hear on the television commercials, but the kicker was the 2 medications are absolutely not to be taken together. No wonder the 3rd leading cause of death in America is medical errors. So now that we have a diagnosis, she’s treating it naturally. We’ll see what happens. If this doesn’t work, then sometimes you have to take the prescription medication as a last resort.
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lardy
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Post by lardy on Jan 22, 2024 22:29:13 GMT
I have Indigestion most days, I've had it for about ten years.
Volume of food is usually the biggest cause for me personally, I can usually have a month free of indigestion and acid reflux if I do something similar to the following:
stay off food for about 22 hours - (this causes a lot of "heartburn" make sure to drink ONLY water in this period before bed eat something like a banana and a handful of grapes.
for the next 7 days eat every 3 hours a portion the same sort of size a child would eat. CHEW, CHEW, CHEW until it's a paste sip water in between chewing if you have to, it's disgusting but it is what it is. I personally stick to lean meat, veg and beans during these 7 days. things that cause me pain again: All grains Dairy Fatty meat oils Citrus fruits Juice
After 7 days, resume normal eating and get about 30 days pain free.
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Post by lardy on Jan 22, 2024 22:42:29 GMT
Here’s a perfect example of the risk with traditional medicine. My wife has been experiencing some pain in the region where no woman wants to be uncomfortable. After a week, it was time to go to a doctor because nothing had worked and it wasn’t getting better. So we believe that’s the time you go to a doctor to get a diagnosis because in this day and age the medical establishment is pretty good at diagnosing illnesses, not perfect, but very good. So after some tests and a physical examination, she has a bacterial infection. The doctor gives her a dose of the 2 medications to take right then until I can get the prescriptions filled the next day. My wife goes to take it, then something in the back of her mind told her to wait, so she palmed the medication and faked taking it. When we got home, she looked up the side effects. They were all the usual horrible things you hear on the television commercials, but the kicker was the 2 medications are absolutely not to be taken together. No wonder the 3rd leading cause of death in America is medical errors. So now that we have a diagnosis, she’s treating it naturally. We’ll see what happens. If this doesn’t work, then sometimes you have to take the prescription medication as a last resort. If it's bacterial, reduce sugar and take meds before it spreads and she is in hospital. Not the same area (i'm guessing) but I had a bacterial infection in my throat and left it for a week, I had internal blisters all through my throat and chest that were the most excruciating pain of my life, I had to have cameras shoved down my throat whilst I was awake, I was choking and it was scratching the blisters all the way down, worse thing ever. On top of all this I hadn't eaten was dehydrated and couldn't walk because of weakness, temperature at 40 Celsius (104 Fahrenheit), miserable. I was in hospital not able to swallow or brush my teeth, hooked up to antibiotic drips and hydration drips, don't leave it or try some mystical Chinese shit, it ain't worth it.
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TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 22, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
I have Indigestion most days, I've had it for about ten years. Volume of food is usually the biggest cause for me personally, I can usually have a month free of indigestion and acid reflux if I do something similar to the following: stay off food for about 22 hours - (this causes a lot of "heartburn" make sure to drink ONLY water in this period before bed eat something like a banana and a handful of grapes. for the next 7 days eat every 3 hours a portion the same sort of size a child would eat. CHEW, CHEW, CHEW until it's a paste sip water in between chewing if you have to, it's disgusting but it is what it is. I personally stick to lean meat, veg and beans during these 7 days. things that cause me pain again: All grains Dairy Fatty meat oils Citrus fruits Juice After 7 days, resume normal eating and get about 30 days pain free. There's general agreement that if you've grown up a "western diet" of fatty foods -- dairy & meat, processed oils, processed fruits (juice) -- like many of us, most likely a person with constant issues with digestive issues has got a gallstone and it will flare up. Guessing I might hence I've done similar things and when I'm on the road and don't stay on the program, that is when problems could begin. The culprit is usually a processed food, or source of dense calories (fatty meat) as we seem to overeat those trigger foods. NOTE: I have't had beef for four or five years after losing a friend to Mad Cow Disease. This might be of interest: We can easily live with a gallstone if managed correctly.
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Post by lardy on Jan 22, 2024 23:13:10 GMT
I have Indigestion most days, I've had it for about ten years. Volume of food is usually the biggest cause for me personally, I can usually have a month free of indigestion and acid reflux if I do something similar to the following: stay off food for about 22 hours - (this causes a lot of "heartburn" make sure to drink ONLY water in this period before bed eat something like a banana and a handful of grapes. for the next 7 days eat every 3 hours a portion the same sort of size a child would eat. CHEW, CHEW, CHEW until it's a paste sip water in between chewing if you have to, it's disgusting but it is what it is. I personally stick to lean meat, veg and beans during these 7 days. things that cause me pain again: All grains Dairy Fatty meat oils Citrus fruits Juice After 7 days, resume normal eating and get about 30 days pain free. There's general agreement that if you've grown up a "western diet" of fatty foods -- dairy & meat, processed oils, processed fruits (juice) -- like many of us, most likely a person with constant issues with digestive issues has got a gallstone and it will flare up. Guessing I might hence I've done similar things and when I'm on the road and don't stay on the program, that is when problems could begin. The culprit is usually a processed food, or source of dense calories (fatty meat) as we seem to overeat those trigger foods. NOTE: I have't had beef for four or five years after losing a friend to Mad Cow Disease. This might be of interest: We can easily live with a gallstone if managed correctly. I think you may be onto something regarding the gallbladder tbh, it's in close proximity of the pancreas which is interesting because I was at the GP telling them my pancreas feels swollen/inflamed a few years back before life got in the way and nothing ever came of it. I might have to revisit the doctor and discuss the possibility of it with him. Also to OP, Have you checked the possibility of threadworm they can cause all sorts of digestive issues as can pin worm and as an adult aren't as easily noticed as one might think, i remember my neighbour had worms as a kid and my dad being the wise man of everything he is (sarcasm) decided to "worm" all of us and make us eat a pinch full of tobacco, we were all sick but he swore by it
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 23, 2024 6:21:23 GMT
It is surprising how much digestive issues affect mental well being. I felt life wasn’t worth living when I was suffering for about 8 months. It was misery. Indeed. I was often the same, Whiffet m8.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 23, 2024 6:28:11 GMT
One of the guys at work was telling me that his wife feeds their kids a lot of junk. He keeps telling her to sort it out but she won't listen.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 24, 2024 14:25:39 GMT
I know a lot of guys here are against doctors unless they are naturopathic. Where I live they are very hard to find and if You do they are States away. Also when You look for one most doctor describe themselves as using an naturopathic or as using a holistic approach. At least that has been my experience. I don't know where some of You guys live, maybe somewhere in the outback that still have doctors like that. I rarely go to the doctor except for a physical and bloodwork. My bloodwork is always good and my doctor never offers me medicine for anything. In about 2015 he sent me to a specialist for a test. That specialist sent me for a food allergy test. Which test for gluten allergies also, which I was not allergic to. I found out what foods I was allergic to. I felt like I was allergic to something and if it wasn't for the doctors I would have never known what I was allergic to. I found out also I had esophagitis also. Not one of those doctors told me I had to take medicine. The only thing I was told was to stop eating the foods I was allergic to and the foods that cause most acid reflux. NOT me. I'm not against anyone. I researched and have passed on THEIR official documents exposing the SYSTEM that has indoctrinated and entangled people who may have had a genuine desire help others, but then became slaves to the income. Of course, there are others who have left that dishonest death propaganda system to form their own practice ..... It seems to me that many of the ones who actually care, have integrity and can think for themselves apart from their med school drug salesman indoctrination, have checked out, but I'm sure it's a difficult choice due to their dependency on that paycheck ...... just like the doctors in the original medical labs in nazi Germany, where the "good Christian Germans" could easily rationalize any evil to save their own ______. Still goes on. Once the pseudo-science of 'virology' is publicly displayed like the Emperor with no clothes, and the arrogant, barbaric, ignorant, truth sublimating, corrupt, GREED motivated, lying system of cards collapses from lack of customers, the healthier people will be. "The fact that an OPINION has been WIDELY HELD
(for way over 120 years now and counting)
is NO EVIDENCE WHATEVER that it is not TOTALLY ABSURD." Bertrand Russell
No evidence? No pathogenic "virus". BTW, Michael, testing for food allergies has nothing to do with the fact that the toxic glutens are harming everyone who eats them, every time they eat them. MDs treat tests because that's what they've been taught. They do not treat HUMANS whose body fluctuates constantly to adapt. All they have to work with is what the person is presenting AT THAT MOMENT - just the teeny-tiny snapshot in time that a test provides. They don't know what they're doing because they've been indoctrinated into a system that lies as a habit, just to make money.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 24, 2024 14:46:20 GMT
Mr Potatohead, you're preaching to the choir here. I agree with everything in your post, especially with the importance of learning to take care of your own health, which has been my philosophy for years. This is gonna become even more important as time goes on, as the most competent health workers retire or die and are replaced by diversity hires. I'm especially worried about the future state of care for the elderly... And as for wheat, again, I agree with you that it's poison, but I want to try everything I can before going through the trouble of entirely removing food, because I already find it difficult to eat things as it is. I honestly think that it's going to be more about strengthening myself, and less about avoiding foods. I already have ideas for that, but it's too soon to discuss them. If I have success, I'll eventually describe in details how I did it. OK. Right. I know that the toxic gluten grains have also been mixed with addictive substances. They gotta make sure the rats eat the poison, you know? It may be a little more effort to prepare good food, but totally worth it, it tastes better, costs less, no need for vehicle maintenance to 'go out to eat', etc, ....... IMO, since I can avoid a lot of excess pain in my life.
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TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 24, 2024 15:48:48 GMT
OK. Right. I know that the toxic gluten grains have also been mixed with addictive substances. They gotta make sure the rats eat the poison, you know? Lets be objective for a second here, folks. - "Gluten" grains. - They're not a big deal if you know which grains to eat and not eat. Figure out what does/doesn't work. There are many grain products -- wheat based -- that I won't eat which leave me feeling ill including beer, which I stopped consuming years ago as a result.
- Is it the gluten? Is it toxic? A very small % of people, globally, are gluten intolerant. Others are allergic. But here's where that claim (not necessarily Mikey's) doesn't quite hold up. I travel to Europe for business. Italy? Pizza and pasta daily and zero issues (and surprisingly lost weight). France? Worked in Paris for two weeks, rented a flat near the classic Mozart Ave upstairs from a bakery. So, like a good Parisian I went down daily and got my daily fresh baked baguette..OMG. Wonderful! And no issues. And no weight gain. Switzerland...land of hot street corner pretzels. Yumm. No issues. And you don't see overweight or obese Italians, French or Swiss despite their daily consumption of pasta, bread and pretzels. (Think I've posted previously an Italian co-worker, when he saw me eating a nasty little chicken breast, vegetables and a small serving of dry pasta, asked why I was eating that miserable meal? (To stay lean.) To which he responded "Look around. Do you see any fat Italians?" My observation (this was in Milan, btw)...none. In fact, there were super-model looking individuals (Milan's one of the fashion capitals) eating pasta.) Friends have reported the same thing as me...NO issues with wheat products in Europe. And the noodles in Taiwan, Japan? Zero problems.
- Addictive substances? I don't think anyone would disagree with this when it comes to products like Wonder Bread, box cereals, chips (eg Fritos, Goldfish crackers). OTOH, I can't find anything in my Ezekial bread that would be classified as an addictive substance. Find clean food and there's a very good chance and you'll be fine.
Not totally disagreeing with Mikey's concerns, btw. I can't eat many oat products. But, after some experimenting I've found there are some I can eat, many I can't.
But, for complex carbs you can never go wrong with legumes. Fantastic pre and probiotic, probably the most consumed carb amongst the Blue Zone. Potatoes get a bad rap, but there are people all over the web who've had great results with potato-centric diets. I'll get frozen hash browns, put them in a pan and slowly brown them up (no oil) and eat them w/ my egg whites. Good stuff. Rice is okay, but arsenic content should be considered.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 24, 2024 17:04:23 GMT
OK. Right. I know that the toxic gluten grains have also been mixed with addictive substances. They gotta make sure the rats eat the poison, you know? Lets be objective for a second here, folks. - "Gluten" grains. - They're not a big deal if you know which grains to eat and not eat. Figure out what does/doesn't work. There are many grain products -- wheat based -- that I won't eat which leave me feeling ill including beer, which I stopped consuming years ago as a result.
- Is it the gluten? Is it toxic? A very small % of people, globally, are gluten intolerant. Others are allergic. But here's where that claim (not necessarily Mikey's) doesn't quite hold up. I travel to Europe for business. Italy? Pizza and pasta daily and zero issues (and surprisingly lost weight). France? Worked in Paris for two weeks, rented a flat near the classic Mozart Ave upstairs from a bakery. So, like a good Parisian I went down daily and got my daily fresh baked baguette..OMG. Wonderful! And no issues. And no weight gain. Switzerland...land of hot street corner pretzels. Yumm. No issues. And you don't see overweight or obese Italians, French or Swiss despite their daily consumption of pasta, bread and pretzels. (Think I've posted previously an Italian co-worker, when he saw me eating a nasty little chicken breast, vegetables and a small serving of dry pasta, asked why I was eating that miserable meal? (To stay lean.) To which he responded "Look around. Do you see any fat Italians?" My observation (this was in Milan, btw)...none. In fact, there were super-model looking individuals (Milan's one of the fashion capitals) eating pasta.) Friends have reported the same thing as me...NO issues with wheat products in Europe. And the noodles in Taiwan, Japan? Zero problems.
- Addictive substances? I don't think anyone would disagree with this when it comes to products like Wonder Bread, box cereals, chips (eg Fritos, Goldfish crackers). OTOH, I can't find anything in my Ezekial bread that would be classified as an addictive substance. Find clean food and there's a very good chance and you'll be fine.
Not totally disagreeing with Mikey's concerns, btw. I can't eat many oat products. But, after some experimenting I've found there are some I can eat, many I can't.
But, for complex carbs you can never go wrong with legumes. Fantastic pre and probiotic, probably the most consumed carb amongst the Blue Zone. Potatoes get a bad rap, but there are people all over the web who've had great results with potato-centric diets. I'll get frozen hash browns, put them in a pan and slowly brown them up (no oil) and eat them w/ my egg whites. Good stuff. Rice is okay, but arsenic content should be considered.
Yes, sorry, I usually specify that when I refer to "toxic gluten grains" I'm talking about Barley, Rye, Oats, Wheat and Spelt. There are other grains containing gluten. I don't really know if it is the natural composition of those grains themselves or the way the entire human-contamination-process they go through from the ground and seed to the table. Plus, any other item presented to us as "food" by the food industry is suspect and can be heavily contaminated with soil amendments, argi-sprays, etc. This would include animals that we eat that have been fed these toxins, because we eat what they ate to some extent. Ideally, a person is wise to verify the source of their food and to what processes it has been exposed. I don't really care if the actual gluten in the BROWS is the actual toxin. I just avoid them completely and thus, avoid the negative health issues altogether concerning those particular insults.
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TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 24, 2024 18:03:27 GMT
Yes, sorry, I usually specify that when I refer to "toxic gluten grains" I'm talking about Barley, Rye, Oats, Wheat and Spelt. There are other grains containing gluten. I don't really know if it is the natural composition of those grains themselves or the way the entire human-contamination-process they go through from the ground and seed to the table. Plus, any other item presented to us as "food" by the food industry is suspect and can be heavily contaminated with soil amendments, argi-sprays, etc. This would include animals that we eat that have been fed these toxins, because we eat what they ate to some extent. Ideally, a person is wise to verify the source of their food and to what processes it has been exposed. I don't really care if the actual gluten in the BROWS is the actual toxin. I just avoid them completely and thus, avoid the negative health issues altogether concerning those particular insults. Got it. But, I don't think those grains are really the issue. I believe it is either the GMO crops and/or the sprays used on the crops. Humans thrived on grains for centuries and as mentioned, when in Europe and Asia I don't have any issues with breads, pasta, pretzels which was a welcome surprise. I've also tried Einkorn wheat -- hard to find -- also called Virgin Wheat, which is one of the original ancestral wheats. Interesting flavor (tasty), no issues. (As a quick side: also enjoyed the wine in Europe vs. the US as it doesn't have the sulfites our wine industry uses. Much better flavor.) Agree 100% with you -- read labels, check where the food is coming from. But, I've found ways to enjoy grains with no side affects. If they work for Clarence Bass, Cory Everson and millions around the world, good enough for me.
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