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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 21, 2024 0:57:14 GMT
Paying attention to specific things you eat as well as when you eat and monitoring the short-term feelings is the only dietary advice, I would offer anyone. If everything seems to cause it, then you need a medical doctor. "Everything" seemed to cause my problems as just like most people I rarely ate anything in isolation but it wasn't everything at all. It was some things and some of those things I just needed to eat in a different order rather than cut them out all together (e.g. Fruit before rather than after meat). My doctor never suggested that though. He just recommend anti-acids. Yeah, because your stomach really doesn't need that pesky acid.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 21, 2024 1:02:02 GMT
But an MD really is your best bet and you can include questions about food allergies I asked my doctor "Do you think it's allergies?" He very quickly said "No, probably food intolerance". The next time I went to see him I said "Do you think it's food intolerance?" He very quickly said "No, it's probably allergies". Doctors hate their patients suggesting what the problem is.
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Post by whiffet on Jan 21, 2024 8:25:25 GMT
But an MD really is your best bet and you can include questions about food allergies I asked my doctor "Do you think it's allergies?" He very quickly said "No, probably food intolerance". The next time I went to see him I said "Do you think it's food intolerance?" He very quickly said "No, it's probably allergies". Doctors hate their patients suggesting what the problem is. I found the opposite problem with my NHS doctor: she was too influenced by my theories. I was getting discomfort up the sternum area and it was spreading around the back, too. I was convinced it must be exercise related so she kept going along with my theory. It was only many months later when I saw a locum and he realised immediately what was going on.
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Post by whiffet on Jan 21, 2024 8:27:53 GMT
You may have a hiatus hernia. The stomach pushes up through the diaphragm and acid escapes into the oesophagus. Many people have such a hernia, and they often cause no symptoms. But when they do, they can cause many weird and worrying sensations — not just heartburn. Often they slide up and down; therefore you can go through periods with no symptoms. I know all this because I have suspected one. My mum has a confirmed one. I use a device called an IQORO, because I did not want to go down the medication route. The idea behind it is that it strengthens the muscles that become weakened when the stomach pushes up through the diaphragm. I had a miserable 8 months a few years ago with mysterious chest discomfort up the sternum. It was really distressing and I was miserable owing to it. It took months before a doctor realised it was simply acid causing the sensations. IQORO sorted it for me. I use it every day now. Do You know if there is a difference between the IQORO and other breathing devices for these types of problems? I looked on their website but it wasn't in dollars so I didn't know the price there. But I looked on Amazon and it was pretty much $700. I can't afford that. I know BrotherSteve mentioned the Bas Rutten O2 Inspiratory Muscle Training Device which is much cheaper. [ I know IQORO is designed to help people suffering from the symptoms of a hiatus hernia. It’s around £140. They last around 18 months and will crack and need replacing.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 21, 2024 8:54:07 GMT
I agree about MD's. They are worse than useless for chronic health issues.
1. Do you eat ANY of the toxic gluten grains - barley, rye, oats, wheat or spelt ("BROWS")? Even a tiny bit in salad dressings, condiments, spices, drinks, etc, is harmful, plus .... all processed food is suspect since most of it contains them as filler. Even wine makers (not all) use wheat to filter their product. I discovered that the toxic glutens had to be eliminated from my diet and, for me, it had to be an obsessive, anally detailed chore, but I worked it out eventually ..... mostly. I still have occasions where I get caught because I don't vet every single ingredient in a food item that I didn't prepare myself.
I must KNOW every single ingredient to avoid all hint of the toxic glutens in order to remain pain free. Even the presence of toxic glutens being packaged in bulk bags where the vendor is also packaging things that I CAN eat - like nuts/seeds - has set me off, since the toxins are floating in the air and some of it goes onto everything they package. If you notice, packages of nuts in the grocery now state when they are "packaged in a facility that also packages blah, blah, blah, dairy and WHEAT" ..... no good, but I've found not all bagged foods mark this, especially back in the time when I was figuring this out, so I had to go by trial and the error indicator ...... pain.
This is my life now, but I'm used to it. It took about 4 or 5 years to fully adjust my eating and diet, but well worth it. I've gone on to ID other diet insults, one being dairy which was the last major thing for me and, since I love certain cheeses, I hated to see it go, but I'd rather feel good.
2. For temporary and immediate help, and for long term maintenance, have you tried live, apple cider vinegar to add stomach acid for digestion? I use enzymes also if I have a flare up. Live sauerkraut or other fermented veggies are also helpful and I like them, but I just eat them occasionally.
Really though, once I removed the toxic glutens COMPLETELY, it was the biggest boost and an unmistakably noticeable improvement in my condition, and it only took 3 or 4 days to notice it ..... but it took about 4 years before I was confident to leave the house without a roll of TP. I've mentioned this before .... After telling a friend about the damage done by the toxic glutens, she eliminated them. When I next saw her, she said what she noticed was that her brain fog dissipated within days and it was quite noticeable .... she wasn't even aware that she'd had brain fog prior to elimination, so it kinda blew her mind, she was amazed that it would make that much difference. Even beginning to eliminate the largest sources of the toxic glutens will bring some amount of relief that you can feel, but I wouldn't stop there. I would take it seriously enough to be willing to offend people by refusing the food they have prepared for me. I know that may seem rude to them, but as I explain and apologize, it will keep me happy and comfortable at their party. My friends are totally OK with this. It's all in how I present it to them. I carry the double strength "Glutenease" by Enzymedica with me at all times now, just in case I screw up and get caught.
Another toxin that I would eliminate as much as possible is refined sugar.
Anyway, this is my initial offering. I hope it's helpful. Questions are welcomed and there are others here who have been down this road who may have suggestions also. Disclaimer: I am not a doctor ......... not a virologist either ........ and I thank God for that. I fully agree with you that wheat and gluten are terrible, and I really should stop eating that garbage, but I don't know if I feel ready for it yet. I don't think that it's directly related to my digestive issues, though, because with time, I've already cut massively on wheat products, and my digestion only got worse. Judging based on your comment about TP, it sounds like we actually had opposite problems, where your digestion was too rapid and mine too slow. As for apple cider vinegar, I do consume it. I started a few years ago when I had an annoying twitch under my left eye, and I watched a dr Berg video recommending ACV for it, and it instantly fixed it for me. I never noticed any benefit for my digestion from it, unfortunately, even though I put way more of it in my glass than they recommend (I just like the taste of it when mixed with juice). To address your reply to my post; Last I read/heard here are something near 300 chronic ill health issues that are directly CAUSED by the TOXIC gluten grains - barley, rye, oats, wheat and spelt. One is diarrhea and another of the ~ 300 is constipation, so it could be either, plus acid reflux or any other digestive issue, T2 diabetes, skin rashes of any kind, etc, etc. If you eliminate the toxic glutens thoroughly, obsessively, completely, you WILL experience a noticeable improvement somewhere, I guarantee it. ((But I offer no compensation if it fails for you, so foggetabout that, cuz I have no control over your situation)). That's why, if you can't manage or take responsibility for your own health and need some "expert" to manage the body that YOU live in 24/7/365 .... (and MDs only interact with for 10 - 12 min, once or twice per year) .... then talk to a good naturopath, chiropractor .... a doctor whose approach is holistic, who will take the time to dive into your personal life habits and environment and make relevant recommendations for you to manage your own health. MDs are going to try to pull you into their web of tests and "specialists". They run test, then they treat the tests and not the person. They have no clue. They prescribe drugs, which rob nutrients you need in order to work. So, you need another drug to "fix" the damage done the first one. We cause our own problems, but the frankenfood is intentionally manufactured to be addictive, and they've been quite successful at making it so. People fight over Froot Loops, m8s. The substitutes I use are even better though. I don't miss the bagels, cookies, pancakes, pizza, etc, not at all. My flat cakes are AWESOME!
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Post by ilya on Jan 21, 2024 12:32:34 GMT
Michael Brown in "Prison's Bloody Iron" says the way to digest your food properly is to eat an orange after every meal. I did that when I was in my twenties for a couple of years and made great gains. Simple and inexpensive, might want to give it a go. That's interesting. Does he offer any explanation as to why this would work? I think I'll try it out of curiosity, and because I like oranges anyway. Yes, you need a variety of probiotics, not just what is in kefir and ACV. If your kefir is store bought than the milk has been pasteurized, that's a problem. The best kefir is from raw milk, but difficult to get unless you live in a rural area like I do. You've got some serious issues going on and were a victim of the identical malpractice (over prescription of antibiotics) that my wife was. You most likely would benefit from fermented mushrooms to rebuild your microbiome as well. Someone recommended finding a Holistic / Naturalpath doctor, I second that based on what you've shared. Unfortunately, those are hard to find. Your next best option is to go to a health food store run by people who've been in the industry for 30+ years and actually have an understanding of the supplements they sell, what they can treat, and what supplements will make your condition worse. Third, you could correspond with my wife, she has worked for the largest supplement companies in the US, reads all the medical research journals about supplements, and could run rings around any general practitioner when it comes to nutrition. It is pasteurized, but, unfortunately, there's not really an alternative here since selling raw milk is illegal in Canada. It's stupid and I really wish I could drink raw milk, but I can't. Fermented mushrooms sound absolutely vile to the taste, but I'm open to the idea. Speaking of probiotics supplements, does your wife or you have any opinion on spore-based probiotics? I read about them years ago, and the idea seemed good, but I never got around to buying any, because I'll usually exhaust all the ideas I can think of before I spend money. drruscio.com/leaky-gut-why-spore-based-probiotics-might-be-the-answer-to-healing/ Your intestines are nowhere near your chest. If cutting down on wheat seemed to make your health worse then maybe it was caused by some of the food you started eating more of to replace the wheat? If you are not digesting protein properly you will have farts that smell of rotten eggs. Your problem sounds like it's carbs. I love pork chops and have them at least once per week. I don't eat the rind though as this will have me waking up in the middle of the night feeling a bit sick. Same with pork crackling. You misunderstood me. I don't think at all that cutting wheat made my health worse, on the contrary, I think less wheat is great. All I'm saying is that, despite eating less wheat than before, my digestion eventually got worse, and therefore I don't think that wheat is responsible for my digestive troubles. My farts don't smell like rotting eggs at all, they're actually very mild. I don't think that my problem is "proteins", but I honestly don't believe it's carbs either. I've never noticed a pattern between the amount of carbs I eat and with indigestion. The most obvious pattern, as I said previously, was pork chops, but meat in general seems to be the worst. I don't think that it's a problem with meat in itself, though, I think it's a problem with me. You may have a hiatus hernia. The stomach pushes up through the diaphragm and acid escapes into the oesophagus. Many people have such a hernia, and they often cause no symptoms. But when they do, they can cause many weird and worrying sensations — not just heartburn. Often they slide up and down; therefore you can go through periods with no symptoms. I know all this because I have suspected one. My mum has a confirmed one. I use a device called an IQORO, because I did not want to go down the medication route. The idea behind it is that it strengthens the muscles that become weakened when the stomach pushes up through the diaphragm. I had a miserable 8 months a few years ago with mysterious chest discomfort up the sternum. It was really distressing and I was miserable owing to it. It took months before a doctor realised it was simply acid causing the sensations. IQORO sorted it for me. I use it every day now. That's interesting too. I went and read about it on wikipedia, and I admit that I have a lot of the symptoms listed, and, apparently, it's quite common. At this point, I still believe that it's just a coincidence, but it's something to remember for sure. If somebody has a headache do you tell them to speak to a doctor because it may be a brain tumour? Obviously ilya's problem may be more than just a bit of indigestion but it doesn't sound urgent so it's worth trying other things before going to the doctor. Like I said above I spent years going to the doctor but to no avail. A naturopath figured out what was causing my problem in under an hour. Right, I don't believe that it's urgent. I've been having this for years, and it hasn't really been getting worse, apart from that particularly bad day that caused me to make this thread. I've gotten significantly better already and I expect to get even better soon. It's only a matter of time until I figure it out. Also, keep in mind that I live in Canada, and you can't just go see doctors whenever you want anyway. Even urgent care in hospitals usually have over ten hours of wait, and regular doctors can take months. I don't want to contribute to clogging the system even further when I can just heal myself. My digestion has never been particularly good, but since roughly late 2022, it has been really bad. I started getting this crippling chest pain that would often last for hours after meals. I eventually figured out that this is caused by gas that gets trapped into my chest and causes enough pressure to be painful. In fact, the pressure is so great, that pretty much every day, I have moments where my left nostril gets clogged up, also clogging my left ear in the process, and whenever that happens, when I swallow my saliva, a loud and ticklish "pop" happens. This is usually something that happens if I'm laying down trying to sleep, and at that point my only choice is to get out of bed and force myself to belch, because that doesn't work if I'm lying down. This has been ruining my sleep pretty bad, especially the clogged nostril, because it makes me mouth breath, which is bad for rest. Reading this, you'd probably assume that I'm obese and eat all day long, but it's wrong; I've actually been underweight my whole life and still am. It's been particularly bad this week, and I struggle to finish my meals, which is why I've decided to try to seek help here. I'm looking for solutions that don't involve buying products, simply because I'm not a fan of the idea of becoming dependent on something external for my health. I'm thinking that there must be something that has gone wrong with one or several of my digestive organs, like maybe low stomach acid that would cause food to go undigested in my intestines, leading to an excess of gas. Although, interestingly, it's worth noting that all this gas only goes up, I pretty much never fart, which maybe contributes to the problem. I've tried multiple youtube videos on bloating, and so far none of them have helped. Does anyone have any idea? A few suggestions: 1. Have you been tested for food allergies? Or, tried an elimination diet? Either may give you an indication if there are triggers that are causing any issues that kick off the reactions you're experiencing. 2. Does your family have any digestive problems? A lot of people have gallbladder problems that fatty foods -- fatty meats, cheese, junk, whole milk, etc. -- can trigger wihtout a person knowing the root cause. Gallbadder issues can cause a range of issues whether you're over- or underweight including those you list. 3. Smaller meals..some people simply can't handle more than "X" number of calories in a meal, especially late at night when your circadian clock is slowing things down so you may want to think about evening meals? So smaller meals will help you spread the cals out and possibly your digestive responses. But an MD really is your best bet and you can include questions about food allergies, checking your gallbladder for gallstones. If you're reluctant to see a doctor again, see if some of the options work for a few weeks however if they don't, you shouldn't reply on internet opinions. Remember, the 'net is where you had guys like Benny pushing snake oil supplements which allegedly reversed heart disease a few years ago. Too bad the US Postal department didn't see that one...mail fraud. 1. I've never been tested. It's something I'd be curious about, but honestly I'm too stingy and lazy to do it. Elimination diet is something I've considered before and maybe I'll do someday. 2. I know that my grandpa has digestive issues similar to mine. Unfortunately, he goes to the doctor regularly and takes antacids, which means he's pretty much doomed to never improve. I tried to explain to him why he needs more acid, not less, but it's the doctor's words against mine, so... A problem with the gallbladder is something I've considered. I really hope that it's not the main problem, though, because that would be really annoying to deal with. 3. I do eat really big meals... but there's a reason for that. For most of my life, I just ate a bunch of small meals all day long, and by the time I was in my mid-20s, I was a complete mess. I could write a whole thread on how bad my health was and how I improved it. The main thing that really helped me early on was to start intermittent fasting. Before IF, I was either diabetic or pre-diabetic (I've never gotten a formal diagnosis, because I didn't care, but I was waking up to pee at least twice a night, sometimes up to five times). I also had crippling headaches on a near-daily basis, among other issues. Within just a few days of starting IF, I noticed incredible improvements in all my symptoms. Within a few months, I was completely healed of nocturia and my headaches had a frequency of once every few weeks. So I agree that eating these big meals probably doesn't help my digestion, but at the same time I can't really stop doing it, because the alternative is even worse. But an MD really is your best bet and you can include questions about food allergies I asked my doctor "Do you think it's allergies?" He very quickly said "No, probably food intolerance". The next time I went to see him I said "Do you think it's food intolerance?" He very quickly said "No, it's probably allergies". Doctors hate their patients suggesting what the problem is. Yes, they're generally very arrogant people who hate the idea that someone who hasn't gone through medical school like them could be making good points. I fully agree with you that wheat and gluten are terrible, and I really should stop eating that garbage, but I don't know if I feel ready for it yet. I don't think that it's directly related to my digestive issues, though, because with time, I've already cut massively on wheat products, and my digestion only got worse. Judging based on your comment about TP, it sounds like we actually had opposite problems, where your digestion was too rapid and mine too slow. As for apple cider vinegar, I do consume it. I started a few years ago when I had an annoying twitch under my left eye, and I watched a dr Berg video recommending ACV for it, and it instantly fixed it for me. I never noticed any benefit for my digestion from it, unfortunately, even though I put way more of it in my glass than they recommend (I just like the taste of it when mixed with juice). To address your reply to my post; Last I read/heard here are something near 300 chronic ill health issues that are directly CAUSED by the TOXIC gluten grains - barley, rye, oats, wheat and spelt. One is diarrhea and another of the ~ 300 is constipation, so it could be either, plus acid reflux or any other digestive issue, T2 diabetes, skin rashes of any kind, etc, etc. If you eliminate the toxic glutens thoroughly, obsessively, completely, you WILL experience a noticeable improvement somewhere, I guarantee it. ((But I offer no compensation if it fails for you, so foggetabout that, cuz I have no control over your situation)). That's why, if you can't manage or take responsibility for your own health and need some "expert" to manage the body that YOU live in 24/7/365 .... (and MDs only interact with for 10 - 12 min, once or twice per year) .... then talk to a good naturopath, chiropractor .... a doctor whose approach is holistic, who will take the time to dive into your personal life habits and environment and make relevant recommendations for you to manage your own health. MDs are going to try to pull you into their web of tests and "specialists". They run test, then they treat the tests and not the person. They have no clue. They prescribe drugs, which rob nutrients you need in order to work. So, you need another drug to "fix" the damage done the first one. We cause our own problems, but the frankenfood is intentionally manufactured to be addictive, and they've been quite successful at making it so. People fight over Froot Loops, m8s. The substitutes I use are even better though. I don't miss the bagels, cookies, pancakes, pizza, etc, not at all. My flat cakes are AWESOME! Mr Potatohead, you're preaching to the choir here. I agree with everything in your post, especially with the importance of learning to take care of your own health, which has been my philosophy for years. This is gonna become even more important as time goes on, as the most competent health workers retire or die and are replaced by diversity hires. I'm especially worried about the future state of care for the elderly... And as for wheat, again, I agree with you that it's poison, but I want to try everything I can before going through the trouble of entirely removing food, because I already find it difficult to eat things as it is. I honestly think that it's going to be more about strengthening myself, and less about avoiding foods. I already have ideas for that, but it's too soon to discuss them. If I have success, I'll eventually describe in details how I did it.
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Post by Michael on Jan 21, 2024 14:22:18 GMT
I know a lot of guys here are against doctors unless they are naturopathic. Where I live they are very hard to find and if You do they are States away. Also when You look for one most doctor describe themselves as using an naturopathic or as using a holistic approach. At least that has been my experience. I don't know where some of You guys live, maybe somewhere in the outback that still have doctors like that.
I rarely go to the doctor except for a physical and bloodwork. My bloodwork is always good and my doctor never offers me medicine for anything. In about 2015 he sent me to a specialist for a test. That specialist sent me for a food allergy test. Which test for gluten allergies also, which I was not allergic to. I found out what foods I was allergic to. I felt like I was allergic to something and if it wasn't for the doctors I would have never known what I was allergic to. I found out also I had esophagitis also. Not one of those doctors told me I had to take medicine. The only thing I was told was to stop eating the foods I was allergic to and the foods that cause most acid reflux.
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 21, 2024 15:37:50 GMT
1. I've never been tested. It's something I'd be curious about, but honestly I'm too stingy and lazy to do it. Elimination diet is something I've considered before and maybe I'll do someday. 2. I know that my grandpa has digestive issues similar to mine. Unfortunately, he goes to the doctor regularly and takes antacids, which means he's pretty much doomed to never improve. I tried to explain to him why he needs more acid, not less, but it's the doctor's words against mine, so... A problem with the gallbladder is something I've considered. I really hope that it's not the main problem, though, because that would be really annoying to deal with. 3. I do eat really big meals... but there's a reason for that. For most of my life, I just ate a bunch of small meals all day long, and by the time I was in my mid-20s, I was a complete mess. I could write a whole thread on how bad my health was and how I improved it. The main thing that really helped me early on was to start intermittent fasting. Before IF, I was either diabetic or pre-diabetic (I've never gotten a formal diagnosis, because I didn't care, but I was waking up to pee at least twice a night, sometimes up to five times). I also had crippling headaches on a near-daily basis, among other issues. Within just a few days of starting IF, I noticed incredible improvements in all my symptoms. Within a few months, I was completely healed of nocturia and my headaches had a frequency of once every few weeks. So I agree that eating these big meals probably doesn't help my digestion, but at the same time I can't really stop doing it, because the alternative is even worse. If turns out to be your gallbladder, there are easy fixes. Honestly -- know this as my some folks in the famiy suffered/suffer from it. Fatty foods via animal sources and high fat processed foods always triggered their issues. One person refused to stop their bacon, burgers, etc., and ended up getting their gallbladder removed. Quick surgery (back up and at it in days) and (guessing) 15 years later no issues. The other dropped the fatty foods -- while include and few if any issues. High fat consumption was not part of our ancestral diet -- the 'animal protein' we consumed was lean. (I said it a zillion times on here -- try going through survival school and find fatty meats in the wild...you won't. Go run around with one of the remaining primitive hunter-gatherer societies and one will find, as documented on video, lots of plants and lean proteins from the hunt.) And starting your day with processed oils (eg MCT oil) and butter in your coffee like BS artist Dave Asprey advocates? Not only fs up your arteries, does nothing good for your gall bladder. (There are extreme outliers like the inuit...) See if your meals can be focused around whole plant foods for the bulk of your calories, fruits, vegetables that are tolerated and lean meats. Rice, potatoes, legumes and figuring out which grains which will work for you. Drop dairy (not part of our evolutionary diet), processed foods, keep booze to a minimum. Websites from some great MDs on keeping the gallbladder healthy -- nearly all of us have gallstones, but the issue is how to live with them. If none of this works, sorry. And not a doctor so I'm not trying to diagnose, just ideas for your consideration.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jan 21, 2024 18:19:18 GMT
I asked my doctor "Do you think it's allergies?" He very quickly said "No, probably food intolerance". The next time I went to see him I said "Do you think it's food intolerance?" He very quickly said "No, it's probably allergies". Doctors hate their patients suggesting what the problem is. I found the opposite problem with my NHS doctor: she was too influenced by my theories. I was getting discomfort up the sternum area and it was spreading around the back, too. I was convinced it must be exercise related so she kept going along with my theory. It was only many months later when I saw a locum and he realised immediately what was going on. That's really part of a third problem that they think you should stop doing all exercise apart from whatever their own hobby is
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Post by mrdave100 on Jan 21, 2024 19:20:26 GMT
It is pasteurized, but, unfortunately, there's not really an alternative here since selling raw milk is illegal in Canada. It's stupid and I really wish I could drink raw milk, but I can't. Fermented mushrooms sound absolutely vile to the taste, but I'm open to the idea. Speaking of probiotics supplements, does your wife or you have any opinion on spore-based probiotics? I read about them years ago, and the idea seemed good, but I never got around to buying any, because I'll usually exhaust all the ideas I can think of before I spend money. drruscio.com/leaky-gut-why-spore-based-probiotics-might-be-the-answer-to-healing/Well there is still value in drinking store bought kefir. The fermented mushrooms come in capsules, they probably would be absolutely horrible tasting. Anyway, you need to get to a doctor, get a diagnosis, then consult naturopaths for alternative treatment.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 21, 2024 19:31:22 GMT
I didn't misunderstand you, m8. I just wondered if some of the food you replaced the wheat with might have made matters worse? I'm allergic to dairy so I don't use it. I tried to replace it with soy milk and just ended up with other problems because it turned out that I'm also allergic to soy.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 21, 2024 19:39:12 GMT
My doctor sent me to the hospital. The doctor there had a face full of spots despite being in her 40's. That did not give me any confidence in her abilities at all. She said I might have coeliac disease so she would get me tested for that. I said that I don't eat gluten so my problem isn't coeliac disease. She said that it still could be and that they need to do the test anyway to eliminate it as the cause. We then argued about it for a while until she stormed out of the office to speak to somebody else about it. When she came back I said "Well?" and she said that in my case coeliac disease was "Unlikely". A few months later I get an appointment from the hospital for a coeliac disease test that I didn't ask for or need so I told them to give the appointment to somebody that needed it.
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 21, 2024 20:06:57 GMT
It is pasteurized, but, unfortunately, there's not really an alternative here since selling raw milk is illegal in Canada. It's stupid and I really wish I could drink raw milk, but I can't. Fermented mushrooms sound absolutely vile to the taste, but I'm open to the idea. Speaking of probiotics supplements, does your wife or you have any opinion on spore-based probiotics? I read about them years ago, and the idea seemed good, but I never got around to buying any, because I'll usually exhaust all the ideas I can think of before I spend money. drruscio.com/leaky-gut-why-spore-based-probiotics-might-be-the-answer-to-healing/Well there is still value in drinking store bought kefir. The fermented mushrooms come in capsules, they probably would be absolutely horrible tasting. Anyway, you need to get to a doctor, get a diagnosis, then consult naturopaths for alternative treatment. John e Peterson was (is) a naturopath. Just saying...
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Post by Michael on Jan 21, 2024 20:19:44 GMT
Well there is still value in drinking store bought kefir. The fermented mushrooms come in capsules, they probably would be absolutely horrible tasting. Anyway, you need to get to a doctor, get a diagnosis, then consult naturopaths for alternative treatment. John e Peterson was (is) a naturopath. Just saying... , States away. A poor man has to take a plane just to see him.
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Post by TexasRanger on Jan 21, 2024 20:30:44 GMT
John e Peterson was (is) a naturopath. Just saying... , States away. A poor man has to take a plane just to see him. Hah! Sadly, rumor has it from my contacts in the Twin Cities area that Mr. Peterson has relocated and some of the health issues related to his polio continue. His training has also allegedly changed as a result. Nothing known but my sources know people who know JP so this is 100% 3rd hand info. Hoping his health, personal life are not suffering.
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