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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 10:24:36 GMT
The most effective isometric stretch, involving and tensioning all muscles of the body, from the grip above, down to the toes, is hanging from your grip by one (or both?) hand(s?), according to Pete Wagner.
((Although this is a hang w/ no up or down movement, it does involve horizontal movement, but the isometric part I'm considering would be the pulling down by gravity.))
I heard him say this in one of his youtubes. What do you think?
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 12, 2017 12:31:24 GMT
Proceed cautiously with the one arm hangs; the extreme shoulder/lat stretch can result in injury .
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Post by fatjake on Oct 12, 2017 12:41:42 GMT
it seems so different to other strength training that I can't even guess what the results would be. Though as grunt says most people would probably have to build up to one armed hangs over time to avoid injury
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Post by Michael on Oct 12, 2017 12:47:16 GMT
Mikey I personally look at hanging from a bar as a way to work my grip and for shoulder health. The shoulder health thing I got from the book,"Shoulder Solution".
I don't buy that guy got his build from just the stuff he does now. But I do believe hanging does do good. I hang for time twice a week for 2-3 sets supersetted with 3 reps of super slow fingertip push-ups.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 13:35:07 GMT
Funny you mention that, JR. I started hanging regularly due to shoulder issues and then kept it up.
And, yes, I've heard him say that he used to lift and do conventional BBing. I've heard him blame Joe Weider & Arnold for so many non-competitive athletes fucking themselves up in various ways due to trying to emulate magazine ideals. He also had a brief dance w/ steroids, but I think that's all over now. His entire fitness focus now is doing what feels good or comfortable and avoiding what feels bad or uncomfortable. I share that direction.
Yeah, the one arm hang is not something I can do for long due to grip failure. I would definitely need grip assists, but I don't have a rig to freely hang by one arm. Two hand grip on the pull up bar and feet touch the floor. If I want to hang w/o touching the floor, I bend @ the knees. Then, swinging side to side is doable by either pumping my legs or pulling on my grips or both - alternately.
I tried the one arm grip this morning and could not hold on w/ grip only with feet unsupported for longer than a few seconds. I won't be trying that again for some time. I prefer setting myself up for success a'la Clarence Bass. It did feel pretty good though and I felt/heard some popping into place. That was nice.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 12, 2017 13:36:48 GMT
Like Pete I use grip support to prolong 1 and 2 arm hangs; it's an example of cheaters prospering . Of course, performing hangs without assistance is also beneficial so use both protocols .
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 13:44:57 GMT
grunt: What do you use for grip assist? Do you just use straps like Pete does or gloves or both or ...... ? Those gardening type gloves w/ the rubber palm/finger coating seem to help.
I would like to find a way to one arm hang w/ my feet up for longer because it does feel good.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 13:49:32 GMT
I just now tried one arm hangs w/ the garden gloves and was able to go to 12 count w/o any trouble. Much better than bare hand.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 12, 2017 13:57:09 GMT
I prefer Cobra Grips from Amazon over Pete's style of grip assistors that I've previously used ( yeah , I know this violates the hyperfrugality credo) . BTW, such assistance enables you to greatly increase the weight with heavy pulls .
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 14:01:41 GMT
Sometimes the advantage can't be gained in a DIY way and the expense is justified. I'll check those out.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 14:05:21 GMT
Are THESE the ones @ Walmart? |
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 12, 2017 14:16:57 GMT
The Walmart link is not working for me . Meanwhile, Walmart sells an inexpensive hook style grip assistor which is OK but ...
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 14:26:16 GMT
Try it now, grunt.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 12, 2017 14:37:35 GMT
Interesting. This sounds like an extreme Dr. Crunch exercise. mikey, have you tried the hang pulling yourself up slightly? I would imagine that would be one heck of an isometric.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 14:40:26 GMT
Yes, I actually found my natural first reaction to the one arm hang is to pull myself up - not any distance, just tensing up, but I had to consciously relax since that was the reflex. When I let go, I felt it.
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