lardy
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Post by lardy on Apr 5, 2023 9:14:17 GMT
On the open battlefield the populace could never stand against a military. Also, the idea that the military won't fire on civilians is something they already thought of and have been purging the ranks for a few years now with "dog whistle" tests like the Covid vax, wokeism allegiance, or other things they use to figure out how you probably voted. Combine that with letting non-citizens serve. There would be no hesitation for the military to fire on civilians. The battle can't be one of bullets. It will have to be digital or something like that. Perhaps AI will be involved, it will definitely be used by the State to control us, so ways must be found to poison their well. Targeted high profile "eliminations" would need to be a part of it. You have to cut off the head of the snake, and that's what D.C. is now. "Open battlefield"? I think the Tories and Red Coats demonstrated the futility of that about 250 years ago. If the tyrant was unafraid there would be no need to constantly hammer away about "gun control", would there? BTW, "assault weapon" is not defined by the design or appearance of an object. It is defined by its use. If someone uses a hammer to initiate an attack at you, that hammer is an assault weapon. Whatever a perp has in his or her hand, used to initiate an attack on someone, becomes an "assault weapon" by virtue of the use it's being put to. An object or tool used for hunting or recreation, regardless of its appearance, is not an "assault weapon", or even a "weapon" at all, since it is not being used to attack humans. It is only a tool that is suitable and/or effective for whatever activity in which one is engaged. Many things we use every day were originally designed for military because they served well in their function (Spam, anyone?). Mama's "assault weapon" of choice may be a rolling pin or iron skillet, right? , that's a reach if ever I've seen one. Just so you guys know if Russia or china - whoever was to invade all you would need is a cow skin shield and spear because the Zulu have proven at the battle of isandlwana that weapons mean nothing it's all about how BrAve YoU ARe.
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Post by lardy on Apr 5, 2023 9:21:11 GMT
I should add the laws here in the UK are much to restrictive, I think everyone should be allowed to carry pepper spray. I'd also like to apologize to Brothersteve for hijacking thread with my rant, sorry dude I really think what this guy is doing is admirable and he's making best of a really bad situation. I won't comment on this thread again I promise.
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Post by brothersteve on Apr 5, 2023 16:37:33 GMT
No worries Lardy. I knew the thread would unravel into something more because there is so much to it.
What this guy is doing does open a lot of what we are all thinking regarding public safety and weapons ownership. Should pepper spray be considered an illegal weapon? How about knifes, forks, and screw drivers. I can make a whole lot of bad stuff with razor blades and other household items.
Here in the USA, if all guns were banned, then the bad guys would get them all illegally. In my area (not even close to bigtime USA) in 2017 there was only 1 ghost gun found and last year (2022) there were 54, which is quite a jump. How many more are out there undetected? Then there are the guns stolen from other states and places and sold to people here. Gun-running is big $ biz now.
Conversely, if we were all issued a gun, then what? No one vetted to own one that shouldn't? What should they look for and how long should the wait be?
Common sense needs to come into play. How old should one be to own any gun? How about a pistol/handgun? Should an 18 yr old own a glock 9? And, what about all those extended mags as well on almost all now that they are finding? Why? I don't think so. Should that kid own a hunting rifle? IMO, only after he/she completes a safety course and application process. The killers are usually the ones with illegal guns (stolen or ghost) and the perps with them have no right to own them, for the most part. Do we ever hear of bills to be enacted for these folks? Why not? Gun owners who buy legally and are of age who register, etc. are not the ones doing all this killing, mostly.
My dad told me in Greece (not sure if it's the same now) you could own a hunting rifle, but had to have it off your premises and locked up in a place the rest of the year when hunting season was over. No guns could be owned and if you committed a crime with a gun, owned or not it was bad trouble.
Here's what I know. The government can stop all this if they wanted to. By not doing so, you know the government is making money from all this and pushing their agenda. How come none of these violent gun crimes are happening to the politicians and their families? Also, the thing they are pushing is the mental health issue that seems to be the answer for something they have planned.
Kids should not be scared to go to school, the store, or church, or really anywhere. Mental or not, the perps going after the defenseless need harsh consequences - NOT probation and a 'sealed' record or a cushy prison cell or room at the mental asylum (IMO), even if under a certain age.
Drop the age to drink, smoke, vote, and go into the military to 18 and enforce the laws to what they should be to deter others from breaking them. People have to grow up sometime.
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Post by moxohol on Apr 5, 2023 16:40:12 GMT
Maybe u wouldn’t need guns if u didn’t fuck with kids minds with contradictory immersions at a young age? vm.tiktok.com/ZMYgrqekU/
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brothersteve
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Post by brothersteve on Apr 5, 2023 17:20:52 GMT
Maybe u wouldn’t need guns if u didn’t fuck with kids minds with contradictory immersions at a young age? vm.tiktok.com/ZMYgrqekU/That's prolly part of it, but I think it's the allowance by lienient laws and law enforcement showing it's ok for 'might to make right'. Until that changes, it's all gonna be worse crap comin'.
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Post by mr potatohead on Apr 5, 2023 18:53:50 GMT
As we now have data on the covid-19 scam and have had data for many years that CO2 or human influence is not the cause of climate change, we now have data on how to make "gun free zones" and other places like schools safe from violent wack jobs.
No reason to guess about what works. We absolutely KNOW what works ........ IF the goal is to actually protect our most precious resource - kids, but it seems that protecting CNN, celebrities and elite dignitaries is more important? So, the reality is exactly as we have said in this thread.
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Post by mr potatohead on Apr 5, 2023 19:02:31 GMT
Maybe u wouldn’t need guns if u didn’t fuck with kids minds with contradictory immersions at a young age? vm.tiktok.com/ZMYgrqekU/Well, we wouldn't need to shoot them if they were mentally healthy and not violent wackos, of course, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with firearm ownership, m8.
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Post by mr potatohead on Apr 5, 2023 19:17:56 GMT
How about we ban MDs and vehicles, and leave guns alone, m8s?
For protection of children under 15, we should ban all swimming pools too.
That would be IF we were really and truly concerned about making child safety an effective legal issue ..... which, obviously, no one is willing to do, and, as we have witnessed in the past 3 years, it is especially abhorrent to the medical industry who wants us to be sick or dead.
Instead, the attack is against what guarantees our freedom of speech and all of the other limits "We The People" have placed upon gov. So, the tabloid media is going to focus on, sensationalize and repetitively shout out about what serves their master.
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Post by mr potatohead on Apr 5, 2023 19:44:08 GMT
Even IF the media was trying to evaluate what are the greatest threats to human health, healthy culture and society, they are utterly failing. There isn't anything below a grade "F-", but if there was, it belongs to the media.
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Post by I. Brow Mann on Apr 5, 2023 19:59:04 GMT
"Open battlefield"? I think the Tories and Red Coats demonstrated the futility of that about 250 years ago. If the tyrant was unafraid there would be no need to constantly hammer away about "gun control", would there? BTW, "assault weapon" is not defined by the design or appearance of an object. It is defined by its use. If someone uses a hammer to initiate an attack at you, that hammer is an assault weapon. Whatever a perp has in his or her hand, used to initiate an attack on someone, becomes an "assault weapon" by virtue of the use it's being put to. An object or tool used for hunting or recreation, regardless of its appearance, is not an "assault weapon", or even a "weapon" at all, since it is not being used to attack humans. It is only a tool that is suitable and/or effective for whatever activity in which one is engaged. Many things we use every day were originally designed for military because they served well in their function (Spam, anyone?). Mama's "assault weapon" of choice may be a rolling pin or iron skillet, right? , that's a reach if ever I've seen one. Just so you guys know if Russia or china - whoever was to invade all you would need is a cow skin shield and spear because the Zulu have proven at the battle of isandlwana that weapons mean nothing it's all about how BrAve YoU ARe. What's the "reach"?
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Post by lardy on Apr 5, 2023 21:07:28 GMT
, that's a reach if ever I've seen one. Just so you guys know if Russia or china - whoever was to invade all you would need is a cow skin shield and spear because the Zulu have proven at the battle of isandlwana that weapons mean nothing it's all about how BrAve YoU ARe. What's the "reach"? I was referring to the War of independence being used as an example to modern day problems.
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