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Post by mr potatohead on May 23, 2023 2:27:05 GMT
"It's how we interpret life that is most important, so our foundation of TRUTH IS the MOST important." Jordan Grant, MD
Read the Bible. It's up to God to speak to you and that's the main way He does it. It's not up to me to convince you. I'm just here to tell you to read the Bible without prejudice or interpretations of ignorant or "religious" people. Humans always fail. Jesus never does.
Your opinion on how the universe was "born" is as real as any other idea of any other man ..... kinda like "virus" or "climate alarm".
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Post by Magnus on May 23, 2023 4:01:30 GMT
Read the Bible. It's up to God to speak to you and that's the main way He does it. It's not up to me to convince you. I'm just here to tell you to read the Bible without prejudice or interpretations of ignorant or "religious" people. Humans always fail. Jesus never does.
Yeah, whatever floats your boat, but my conclusion is that the Judeo / Christian Bible is a very strange book that was written by some very weird people... “Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock.” -Psalm 137:9 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet.” – 1 Timothy 2:12 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.” – Luke 14:26 “If anyone does not love the Lord—a curse be on him.” – 1 Corinthians 16:22 “If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.” – John 5:31 “If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.” – Deuteronomy 25:11-12 “Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.” – 1 Peter 2:18 “The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.” – Hosea 13:16 “The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.” – Psalm 58:10 “Then God said: ‘Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you’.” – Genesis 22:2 “When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males …. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.” – Deuteronomy 20:13-14 “You shall not let a sorceress live.” – Exodus 22:18
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Post by moxohol on May 23, 2023 7:08:51 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on May 23, 2023 9:10:45 GMT
Yeah, whatever floats your boat, but my conclusion is that the Judeo / Christian Bible is a very strange book that was written by some very weird people... I'm sure He will help you sort all of that out, m8.
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Post by Magnus on May 23, 2023 9:30:52 GMT
Yeah, whatever floats your boat, but my conclusion is that the Judeo / Christian Bible is a very strange book that was written by some very weird people... I'm sure He will help you sort all of that out, m8. Nah, I’m doing perfectly fine on my own, and besides, “He” doesn’t seem anywhere near competent at ‘His’ job… www.bbc.com/news/world-44209971
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Post by mr potatohead on May 23, 2023 9:52:25 GMT
I'm sure He will help you sort all of that out, m8. Nah, I’m doing perfectly fine on my own, and besides, “He” doesn’t seem anywhere near competent at ‘His’ job… www.bbc.com/news/world-44209971 "It's how we interpret life that is most important, so our Foundation of Truth IS the most important." Jordan Grant, MD
I'm just here to tell everyone to read the Bible without prejudice or interpretations of ignorant or "religious" people. Humans always fail. Jesus never does.
IMO, we "interpret life" by our bias, formed by a lifetime combination of brainwashing, observation of appearances and personal experience, resulting in our individual perspective. We're all free to choose what we prefer to be true, whether it actually is or not. The behavior of other humans does not excuse my own, but my behavior is no excuse for anyone else either. Just because Pharisees, Sadducees, Catholic priests, or any other self-righteous religious sect, abuse children doesn't make it OK with Jesus.
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Post by mr potatohead on May 23, 2023 16:46:11 GMT
What I believe is that character determines behavior and character is cultivated and improved from the inside > out. When I read the bible, or listen to it read, "it" is reading me. That's where I find myself. Lee Oskar says that "You don't play the harmonica, the harmonica plays you". Harmonicas have fixed notes assigned to holes. It's the truth. It's unchangeable on each standard harmonica. We adapt to the truth of the harmonica in order to play, or not. The Truth doesn't need defense. It's just the Truth. The Truth defends itself. The Truth proves itself (Himself) to be true. The Bible says that God hears when I call and His ears are open to my voice. That's solid enough Truth for me.
I'm not here to preach. I do that a lot to myself because I know what kind of person I am and there's always room for improvement. The great thing is that when I'm wrong, I just own up to it and it's over. Jesus, my perfect and complete Sacrifice, has already paid for my screw ups. In exchange for guilt, punishment and death, I get rivers of Living Water. Seems like the best deal anywhere? "Adam, where are you?" God is searching for us more than we are searching for Him. If we hold still, read His Word and listen, He'll counsel anyone. He doesn't discriminate whether you're the pope or a chain smoking wino in the gutter.
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Post by Magnus on May 24, 2023 2:21:08 GMT
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Post by Magnus on May 24, 2023 2:23:53 GMT
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Post by Magnus on May 24, 2023 2:25:52 GMT
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Post by Magnus on May 24, 2023 2:28:07 GMT
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Post by Magnus on May 24, 2023 2:46:04 GMT
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Post by jonrock on May 26, 2023 13:07:49 GMT
The Riddle of Steel, IMO, means that the Iron shaped Conan, the more you use your weapon the more you resemble said weapon. The Riddle itself is a model, a guide, a myth. Thus, if we use our intelligence and discerment, intelligent we become. I loved your posts, Magnus, good laughs and common sense!
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Post by mr potatohead on May 27, 2023 13:08:31 GMT
Read the Bible. It's up to God to speak to you and that's the main way He does it. It's not up to me to convince you. I'm just here to tell you to read the Bible without prejudice or interpretations of ignorant or "religious" people. Humans always fail. Jesus never does.
Yeah, whatever floats your boat, but my conclusion is that the Judeo / Christian Bible is a very strange book that was written by some very weird people... “Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock.” -Psalm 137:9 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet.” – 1 Timothy 2:12 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.” – Luke 14:26 “If anyone does not love the Lord—a curse be on him.” – 1 Corinthians 16:22 “If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.” – John 5:31 “If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.” – Deuteronomy 25:11-12 “Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.” – 1 Peter 2:18 “The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.” – Hosea 13:16 “The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.” – Psalm 58:10 “Then God said: ‘Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you’.” – Genesis 22:2 “When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males …. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.” – Deuteronomy 20:13-14 “You shall not let a sorceress live.” – Exodus 22:18 Did these "soundbites" come from CNN? It's their style.
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Post by billfish on May 27, 2023 14:28:24 GMT
Religion is the accepted form of insanity....a major problem is that many religious people who read their religion's 'holy books' never really think about what is being said...and there is some really strange stuff in The Bible There are many, many religions in this world....how can anyone say 'mine is right and true' when they don't even know who this creator (God) is, where "he" is and what "he" is ? Religion teaches that 'our religion is true....yours is false'...which leads to 'ours is good, yours is bad' I've never been religious but have done a lot of reading on religion and to be sure, there is wisdom....but the more i learned, the more I began to doubt it all Trust yourself...your mind, your instincts and your heart....you don't need a religion to be a good person You don't need a priest, rabbi, imam etc to tell you how to live And .....The Bible was written ( and changed too ) by humans, not "God" That's been shown by biblical scholars Religion does not like to be questioned.....that should tell you something Free yourself from religion....some of the greatest cruelties ever forced upon the human race was committed by the religious How come NO religious group ever says a word about these filthy conmen ? That should tell you something about religion
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