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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 11, 2021 1:10:05 GMT
..... they say to use a "solid oil" or "litholol" whatever the hell that is ?... My guess is that it is a lithium based grease. |
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Post by Magnus on Jan 11, 2021 2:33:32 GMT
..... they say to use a "solid oil" or "litholol" whatever the hell that is ?... My guess is that it is a lithium based grease. Thanks Mikey... I did some checking and found out that the "friction elements" that the metal balls internally ride against are made out of "dense polyurethane"... The instructions that came with the Bison-1M are translated from Russian, so by a "solid oil" I would imagine that they likely mean 'grease' (?) By "litholol" they could mean 'lithium', the maintenance instructions specifically state to "lubricate with litholol or solid oil"... ? I checked compatibility and either a lithium OR silicone grease is best to use, with the nod going to silicone grease according to this comparison test... www.suspension.com/blog/the-best-grease-for-polyurethane-bushings/***When time to re-lube I'll probably just use a dab of white lithium grease that I already have readily available. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 11, 2021 3:13:41 GMT
I think you're onto it. Lithium grease is available at an auto or farm supply store too.
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Post by ganesha on Jan 11, 2021 16:13:29 GMT
It honestly looks less useful that the normal bison, unless maybe you are supposed to use it to train your arms and chest as well or something? Hopefully it comes with some hints on how to use it, looking forward to finding out. It looks like there are 4 ball and socket joints that can have the tension adjusted? Seems more flexible but it also seems lije it could be more fiddly. |
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Post by Magnus on Jan 12, 2021 23:07:13 GMT
It honestly looks less useful that the normal bison, unless maybe you are supposed to use it to train your arms and chest as well or something? Hopefully it comes with some hints on how to use it, looking forward to finding out. It looks like there are 4 ball and socket joints that can have the tension adjusted? Seems more flexible but it also seems lije it could be more fiddly. Received my new Bison 'Super' today and just got done playing around with it... I'm VERY happy that I purchased it, not sure why Amazon sold this 'used' at such a tremendous discount, with supposedly a "damaged box" ?... The box right along with the Bison are absolutely pristine and appear to have never been used. The only complaint that I can think of is that the instructions are in Russian !... but no worries, common sense is all that's needed, comrades  As for the way it's adjusted it's actually less "fiddley" than then Bison-1M, there are no lock rings, and on each side the single adjustment ring works for both ball & socket joints on that same side, can't get much simpler than that ! Right off the bat my impression is that this does have a much greater range of motion than the Bison-1M, and it definitely feels like a quality piece... I'm going to play around with it some more later on and I'll report back, dinner's just about ready  |
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Post by Magnus on Jan 12, 2021 23:19:58 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Jan 13, 2021 3:27:54 GMT
.....and the verdict is on The 'Bison Super' is a superior all-around piece as compared to the 'Bison-1M'. However, I can definitely see owning both. The Bison-1M feels easier to do certain movements with when the resistance is cranked up. I can foresee doing supersets with the 'Bison Super' adjusted to a lighter resistance but utilizing a greater range of motion, and the Bison-1M set with a higher resistance for a simpler motion. One things for sure, since I began using the Bison my right elbow hasn't felt this good in years... So far it's proving to be just what the doctor (Sotsky) ordered |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 13, 2021 5:29:29 GMT
Stop it Mags, before I buy a gadget instead of using a DIY.
What you're saying about the heavy/light tool split makes complete sense to me. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jan 13, 2021 22:54:31 GMT
Very interesting Mags, it's true sometimes the m1 could do with more range of motion (I'd guess it's about 150 degrees). I'd probably get stung another £30 for import tax but will keep an eye out now.
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Post by Magnus on Jan 13, 2021 23:13:55 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Jan 13, 2021 23:55:25 GMT
Excellent video on the Bison-1M exercise variations, also includes disassembly and maintenance / lube... *Russian language familiarity isn't necessary for much useful info |
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Post by Magnus on Jan 14, 2021 0:06:26 GMT
..... they say to use a "solid oil" or "litholol" whatever the hell that is ?... My guess is that it is a lithium based grease. Eureka ! .... I found the exact lube they recommend gazpromneft-oil.ru/en/products/cars/litol-24*Yes I'm a research nerd |
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jan 14, 2021 0:18:59 GMT
That's $130, I wouldn't pay that for all the degrees of RoM in the world |
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Post by Magnus on Jan 14, 2021 1:42:37 GMT
That's $130, I wouldn't pay that for all the degrees of RoM in the world Oh, silly me didn't realize the exchange rate, I was thinking 95.58 in U.S. dollars, didn't realize it was more... But yeah, owning both is just a luxury and totally unnecessary, the Bison-1M is really all you need. |
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Post by ganesha on Jan 14, 2021 2:52:41 GMT
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