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Post by stormshadow on Mar 19, 2018 10:18:03 GMT
Bruce I always wondered about that Wile E Coyote stuff. So when You're banned You're one of those? Yes. Once banned, you enter unto the realm of the Wile E Coyote, the lowest of the low. Funny thing. There was a guy called MikeNY who practically lived on that forum for years. An ass-kisser par excellent. He never missed an opportunity to take a shot at the Wile E Coyotes. He was banned recently. No one knows why. Now he's a WEC. HAHAHA! You are right about MikeNY. I have two guesses. He was starting to post on the Newton forum more frequently. He also constantly talked about the Mickey Mantle Iso device when JP was extolling the strap virtues. I would like him to tell us that is for sure. He was always asking for prayers for Hollyweed who passed away. That may have allowed him to last longer there than he would have
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Post by gruntbrain on Mar 19, 2018 14:17:24 GMT
JP got the idea of his Powerbelt from a book by James Baley and at least he admitted it. The adjustable belt I sent him used heavy duty tri-sliders . In any case, I got the idea of using a pair of rings for belt adjusting from commercially available Yoga Straps and pants belts. Both work fine but their maximum loop sizes are obviously limited. I would've thought by now someone would've come up with such a belt with distinctive markings for precision loop sizes( stealing the idea from the Sierra Strap)
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Post by vegetus25 on Mar 19, 2018 14:27:40 GMT
Hey Bruce,
This is from a post by Solytrain on JP's forum about whole body isometrics. It was posted in 2016:
"Hi everyone, I would like to point out a distinction between performing powerflexes versus isometrics, when doing isometrics especially when using immovable objects like the belt, wall, etc. It's imperative that you tense and put you whole body into a move, for example doing a press with the belt it's not enough to just tense and exert the arm/shoulder area, but rather bend the knee slightly and press using you whole body as a unit, the contracting ability of your arm shoulder muscles will be much greater, also the carryover effect for strength in everyday activities will also be improved, but when you do power flexing except for the full body contraction ( kivellof) you only concentrate on that particular body part, which does have it's benefits, like increasing muscle awareness, energizing the chi-prana-ruach, and creating muscle definition and separation
Now I'm not saying that you can't or shouldn't use a whole body flex when using power flexes, let's say when concentrating on the shoulder,because if you read McSweeny's instructions he does say to tense the legs slightly when doing the upper body movements, it's just that it's not emphasized to a great degree, but if you want to get as strong as possible with isometrics it's absolutely important that you learn how to use your whole body on every movement"
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 19, 2018 15:15:10 GMT
Thank you, veggietoes!
Well, that answers that question. Soly has always employed full body isometrics with his specific isos. Interesting.
Well, at least JP can say he took it to a staggeringly higher level with his vastly improved 6-7-8.
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Post by Mr Average on Mar 19, 2018 19:17:59 GMT
So to sum it up, doing isometrics without using real measurable resistance such as weights etc.. Can give you off the charts unmeasurable virtual strength? Well how can I argue with that? I myself can virtually deadlift 1000 kilos, squat 2000 kilos and bench press 500 kilos. I do not even have to break into a virtual sweat to do it.
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Post by fastfor40 on Mar 19, 2018 21:15:03 GMT
So to sum it up, doing isometrics without using real measurable resistance such as weights etc.. Can give you off the charts unmeasurable virtual strength? Well how can I argue with that? I myself can virtually deadlift 1000 kilos, squat 2000 kilos and bench press 500 kilos. I do not even have to break into a virtual sweat to do it. Off-the-charts unmeasurable strength is all well and good, but your writing skills will diminish dramatically. Why, I know one guy who claims to be the the high mucky-muck of isometric training, who calls himself an "author" (snicker; can barely write his name), and after 9 years of writing, re-writes, and re-re-writes has yet to produce the promised pamphlet he says will revolutionize physical training forever.
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Post by Michael on Mar 19, 2018 21:49:30 GMT
Off-the-charts unmeasurable strength is all well and good, but your writing skills will diminish dramatically. Why, I know one guy who claims to be the the high mucky-muck of isometric training, who calls himself an "author" (snicker; can barely write his name), and after 9 years of writing, re-writes, and re-re-writes has yet to produce the promised pamphlet he says will revolutionize physical training forever. Hi Fastfor40, Bruce posted this: toddrjackson wrote: "I think everyone here knows I am a former co-worker and still good friend to former forum member Fastfor40, aka Jerry. He trained with the Charles Atlas Course when he was in high school, moved on to bodybuilding, powerlifting and Olympic lifting, did Transformetrics under John Peterson's guidance for quite a few months (he said distance running and Transformetrics training were his two biggest regrets, from a physical training perspective), and he does BW workouts every morning...however, he was doing Isometric workouts in addition to whatever other training he was doing at the time..And this is important...he also taught an Isometric class at a YMCA for a few months. That said, he also kept notes and comments re his training and workouts, and among his musings are comments with regard to iso holds of durations of a minute or longer, rhythmic increasing/decreasing tension within sustained holds, training similar to the 8x8 German Volume weight training protocol - an iso hold performed 8 times for 8 secs, drop sets of an iso hold, with the first set being the most intense, a couple seconds rest and another set done with less intensity, a couple seconds rest, and a third set done with even less intensity...but within all those notes, comments and bursts of inspiration were iso iso workouts with three, four and five sets of ascending time and tension, including a 2,3,4, 5, rest 5-6-7-8 protocol, as well as 5-10-15, and many others as well, and these were written almost ten years ago...he also created an Isometric workout based on Bib Gajda's PHA bodybuilding training...really great stuff. So JP can cuss and rant and stomp his feet and wet himself all he wants...does he really believe his precious and dopey 5-6-7 iso training was unknown and undiscovered before he posted it in his forum? Nope; that, too, is in those notes... Fast said he got a lot of info from Hoffman's isometric course and several books, but he said Bruce, Mackey and this forum (AMM) were among the best, especially the discussions regarding long-duration holds, from which he said he derived the most benefit, but they were tough. Steve Justa was another guy. " How often did you do these workouts? Did you do full body, split body parts, or everyday? How do you count your seconds without losing concentration? Also did you do one point of the range of motion or more in each workout? I would be interested in the Bob Gajda's PHA bodybuilding training specifics, like exercises that you used? Everything Todd wrote is pretty easy to understand. When he did the isometric protocols were they the only thing he was doing? If not what else was he doing and how did he feel this effected his results? By the way, what were his results and insights from each protocol? Also I think I heard You say something about MCL strains? What do You do for legs that don't effect the MCL strains? I've had them in both knees and weight seems to aggraviate them.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 19, 2018 22:04:19 GMT
JP got the idea of his Powerbelt from a book by James Baley and at least he admitted it. The adjustable belt I sent him used heavy duty tri-sliders . In any case, I got the idea of using a pair of rings for belt adjusting from commercially available Yoga Straps and pants belts. Both work fine but their maximum loop sizes are obviously limited. I would've thought by now someone would've come up with such a belt with distinctive markings for precision loop sizes( stealing the idea from the Sierra Strap) Thank you for clearing that up.
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Post by macky on Mar 20, 2018 20:26:30 GMT
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"Also I think I heard You say something about MCL strains? What do You do for legs that don't effect the MCL strains? I've had them in both knees and weight seems to aggraviate them."
I've had a bad knee for a couple decades, where I can't take weight going down in a squat. I found the Monk's No.s 5, 6, and 7 helpful.
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Post by macky on Mar 20, 2018 20:36:58 GMT
So to sum it up, doing isometrics without using real measurable resistance such as weights etc.. Can give you off the charts unmeasurable virtual strength? Well how can I argue with that? I myself can virtually deadlift 1000 kilos, squat 2000 kilos and bench press 500 kilos. I do not even have to break into a virtual sweat to do it. Off-the-charts unmeasurable strength is all well and good, but your writing skills will diminish dramatically. Why, I know one guy who claims to be the the high mucky-muck of isometric training, who calls himself an "author" (snicker; can barely write his name), and after 9 years of writing, re-writes, and re-re-writes has yet to produce the promised pamphlet he says will revolutionize physical training forever. I've long suspected that the Isometric King has his posts written for him by someone competent. The varying quality of "his" writing indicates either varying levels of his mental stability, OR whether his posts are attempted by himself or written by his ghost-writer.
Either way, if said above facts are correct, it is hardly any wonder he hasn't been able to write the Promised Pamphlet.
The fact he keeps on promising after continuing normally embarrassing delays and broken deadlines over nine years (complete with off-the-charts ranting about the highly advanced "contents") reinforces my view that the guy is mentally ill.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 21, 2018 2:42:31 GMT
His yin would be nothing without the WEC yang.
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