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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 14:17:39 GMT
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Post by doomfarer1 on Mar 18, 2018 14:36:23 GMT
jackI do my best to practice ISOs each day Often because of time, I just do a basic set of deadlifts, pulls curls and overhead presses. I can get this done in a short period. When beginning, every day wasn’t in the cards as when I began I would get pretty sore. Now it happens only once in a while.
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Post by Mr Average on Mar 18, 2018 14:38:38 GMT
Isometrics?
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Well I do isometrics and I don't even give them a second thought. As for effort it depends which job I am doing to the amount of effort put in and the same for duration. For example getting 30 aluminium plates and having to drill 4 holes in each with a rechargable drill, once the 4 holes are done with 1 size I then move on to the next size and finally the biggest size drill bit so the screw will sit flush with the plate. I change from the right arm to the left arm when, feel fatigued and vice versa. The effort I have used on that is as much as possible. As for duration it could be as little as 10 seconds or up to 5 minutes as a guess depending on what I am doing.
My example of the isometrics today I put together 40 frames so I collected 80 bars total of roughly 2.7 metres from the racking, 160 bars total of roughly 1.2 metres. them screw them together. After each 1 was done I carried over it to the racking placed it down ready for the next stage. The isometric part was carrying the bars and frames around. I have been getting stronger week by week and my muscle endurance has been improving.
www.tapatalk.com/groups/theofficebodybuildingworkout28918/isometrics-t11360.html
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2018 14:43:14 GMT
jackI do my best to practice ISOs each day Often because of time, I just do a basic set of deadlifts, pulls curls and overhead presses. I can get this done in a short period. When beginning, every day wasn’t in the cards as when I began I would get pretty sore. Now it happens only once in a while. Thanks Doomfarer good stuff!
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2018 14:47:09 GMT
Bruce this thread turned out to be a pretty good one. This stuff on Fast40 is pretty cool. I seen him post on here a couple of times. Do You think You could get him to post more about some of this stuff so if we have any question we could ask him? This stuff has me itching to do isometrics again.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 15:18:44 GMT
Just sent Fasties a PM.
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Post by doomfarer1 on Mar 18, 2018 15:56:24 GMT
As lot of people know, a member named Solomon brought it over there. Solytrain. Apparently, this guy is in his sixties and his grandfather was the Mighty Atom, from whom he learned it. So that sends the protocol back into the early part of the 20th century. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one The Atom shared it with over the years. No doubt there was a way for Fast to come across it and hey who is to say someone couldn’t also come up with it in the recent past? Also, Bruce I own a couple of your products and really like your Trainer. A Belt merely Is a simpler device that I’m now used to.
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2018 16:41:01 GMT
Bruce I would have some of the same question for him like I asked Doomfarer. How often did you do these workouts? Did you do full body, split body parts, or everyday? How do you count your seconds without losing concentration? Also did you do one point of the range of motion or more in each workout? I would be interested in the Bob Gajda's PHA bodybuilding training specifics, like exercises that he used? Everything Todd wrote is pretty easy to understand. When he did the isometric protocols were they the only thing he was doing? If not what else was he doing and how did he feel this effected his results? By the way, what were his results and insights from each protocol? If I think of anymore I'll ask him if he post. Thanks.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 16:43:35 GMT
Well, Doomsies, because of what you have written here, it is apparent that the full body iso, held while performing specific isos, is a very effective protocol. You and I go back a long ways, we've talked on the phone, and if you say this method is a goody, then I am certainly convinced. I remember when you defended me on the Blow so long ago. That was what got you banned, wasn't it? It's not "our methods" that I have a problem with, as many of us here actually use methods that have been promoted on the Blow. The problem I have is with JP's martyr complex and his placing importance on things that don't matter. Calling people "fools" and "lying bastards". Who gives a fuck who or when the 5-6-7 protocol evolved? But that is just soooo important to JP.
And then there are his exaggerated claims. He said recently that his iso method will build strength "beyond your imagining". I dunno. I can imagine quite a bit. Have you experienced any strength gains since you started doing this? I, personally, experienced a significant gain in strength after completing a 12 week long-duration 3-point iso program. I actually tested my strength with weight lifting exercises before and after the 12 weeks.
I didn't know that Soly is the Mighty Atom's grandson. That's really cool! It must be nice to be able to say that a certain method of exercise had been passed down to him from a legend.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 17:03:50 GMT
Whether its isometrics or weightlifting, I perform multiple near max exertions interspersed with pauses. With weightlifting my lifts are only a few inches where I almost immediately lower the weight to the supports followed by a very brief pause before lifting again for as many reps as I can handle; if I'm able to get at least 5 reps I add weight for the next workout. That sounds hard.
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Post by Mr Average on Mar 18, 2018 17:14:18 GMT
Well, Doomsies, because of what you have written here, it is apparent that the full body iso, held while performing specific isos, is a very effective protocol. You and I go back a long ways, we've talked on the phone, and if you say this method is a goody, then I am certainly convinced. I remember when you defended me on the Blow so long ago. That was what got you banned, wasn't it? It's not "our methods" that I have a problem with, as many of us here actually use methods that have been promoted on the Blow. The problem I have is with JP's martyr complex and his placing importance on things that don't matter. Calling people "fools" and "lying bastards". Who gives a fuck who or when the 5-6-7 protocol evolved? But that is just soooo important to JP. And then there are his exaggerated claims. He said recently that his iso method will build strength "beyond your imagining". I dunno. I can imagine quite a bit. Have you experienced any strength gains since you started doing this? I, personally, experienced a significant gain in strength after completing a 12 week long-duration 3-point iso program. I actually tested my strength with weight lifting exercises before and after the 12 weeks. I didn't know that Soly is the Mighty Atom's grandson. That's really cool! It must be nice to be able to say that a certain method of exercise had been passed down to him from a legend. Why do you worry about the little fart, anyone who has visited his site knows he talks out of his arsehole. All the people he as promoted over the years are nothing special muscle/strength/physique/fitness wise. Even those who have divorced him still preach similar bullshit and make claims that they cannot back up. All I can say is welcome to the world of fitness, bullshit has been rampant since the dawn of time with fitness.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 17:26:43 GMT
All I can say is welcome to the world of fitness, bullshit has been rampant since the dawn of time with fitness. Milo of Croton made exaggerated claims.
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Post by doomfarer1 on Mar 18, 2018 17:49:26 GMT
@ Bruce: Yes The Great Denunciation, as it is now known to scholars. I have practiced it, and I feel it’s legit Shen. It’s the only way that has allowed me to enjoy doing ISO’s, and to get the most out of them; to the point that it’s the centerpiece of my training lately. I think it has made me stronger but I haven’t measured as you have. You sure feel stronger.
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Post by Mr Average on Mar 18, 2018 19:08:01 GMT
All I can say is welcome to the world of fitness, bullshit has been rampant since the dawn of time with fitness. Milo of Croton made exaggerated claims. How about the tearing of a phone book? This guy shows you how to do it This guy tries to disguise the same technique
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 18, 2018 19:23:47 GMT
@ Bruce: Yes The Great Denunciation, as it is now known to scholars. I have practiced it, and I feel it’s legit Shen. It’s the only way that has allowed me to enjoy doing ISO’s, and to get the most out of them; to the point that it’s the centerpiece of my training lately. I think it has made me stronger but I haven’t measured as you have. You sure feel stronger. ok. If JP has indeed developed a new and effective isometric protocol, then more power to him, and kudos to you for taking it, running with it, and being the living proof of its effectiveness. Has this produced any gains in muscle size? As for me, my main squeeze will always be bodyweight, barbells, and bands. I periodically burn out and go onto some sort of alternative routine for awhile - isos, KSHD, minimalist routines. But, I always come back to progressive resistance with a vengeance. Yes, the Great Denunciation, forever inscribed in the sacred texts of the Brotherhood of the Cane. It's really good to see you again!
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