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Post by moxohol on Oct 21, 2020 21:34:46 GMT
Mr Pierini clearly meant running away from trouble solo when the odds are stacked against him which is a sensible option for a 66 year old man. It's u who injected the wife, kids, nutjob & the hypotheticals. By what metric are u judging him by for what he would or wouldn't do? The guy is old enough to be ur dad! Hell! I could be ur dad if I have a penis pump handy. Do u really think he'd have any chance against u or a young nutter under UK law? That old man would stand a better chance if he ran away to find something preferably big & heavy to slap u upside ur gorilla head 1st & then run like hell with his wife to the nearest tube! Let's use u as a known example: You're half his age, a strapping 30 something who prolly wears platform shoes so his knuckles don't drag on the ground & taps 10 penny nails with his cock when hammers aren't available. Not all of us are blessed with the same combative attitude, boxing skills, physical prowess or forced to handle dire life circumstances. Nutters simply prey on easy targets like women, children & grandpa's. I guess if we visit the local ghetto & yell out, "N****R!", we'll all be tested & at least have some real world training under our belt. Right? Nothing fails like success & it is true in every sense of the word. Ppl don't fuck with other ppl unless they think they can get away with it. That's why they keep preying on easy targets. So, they keep on doing it until they fuck with wrong person who usually doesn't advertise the fact it's bad for their health. Most people haven't been tested that hard in life like u or have the same abilities. Therefore, censoring Mr. Pierini or anyone his age is disingenuous, because quite frankly, he's not remotely like u & u of all ppl should understand there are NO guarantees in a fight. Period. I can train like GI Joe all I want but it won't mean shit unless I have the correct attitude & if attitude was all it took then we'd all be famous. So, somehow, a correct mindset is paramount? The rest are just moves. U have had the luxury of bitter experience & it is a harsh teacher but it builds the proper minset. Many subscribers here just haven't had that level of experience but that kind of experience comes with a heavy cost & those that don't understand it think of it in terms of danger, romance & Clint Eastwood. Bullshit. I'm no badass or Geoff Thompson but have had the thrill of being bullied or walked over most of my life because of my disorder. I'm simply triggered by your premise. OK. Rant's over. I'm done. Time to mop the floor. I take it this old man should have sprinted away like the young athlete he is or maybe he did the right thing ? The prose technique is called "disarming humor" to get a point across & accepted. Humor certainly works on taking the panties off the ladies (Keep ur jockies on. I'll pass). I failed to get my main salient point across to u. Not I nor any sane thinking person is suggesting u simply sit there & suck on ur thumb while Dick Dastardly taps u lightly on the head until the lump comes out & grabs ur lunch money. What I AM saying is going head up recklessly can be bad for the brain & your overall health. It isn't written in stone ya gotta stand there & go toe to toe like "Rock 'em, Sock' em Robots". John Wayne be damned! Whatever it takes man! I said I was "triggered" by ur comments & my rant wasn't created merely in a vacuum or due to a psychotic break. I got my ass whalloped badly 2 weeks ago & it's effects are still being felt now. I got bruised ribs, a dislocated collarbone , a chipped tooth & a concussion to boot. I had to get an cranial CT scan just to make sure no wires were loose inside. I had an embolism years ago. So that gave me a big scare. This exhibition match happened because I went head up & stood my ground. In retrospect, I should have grabbed something big & heavy & nailed the prick with it instead of dancing with him. No, I wasn't drunk or being a dick. It was righteous. I simply fucked with the wrong person & got my ass handed back to me. He may have been bigger than me but he was stupider than me. I figured I had a good chance to throw down but who knew? He shook off everything I threw at him & acted like I had just offered him a slice of birthday cake. U fuck with bull u get the horns. To tell the truth I was scared & shook like a leaf afterwards. That old man can apply to be my bodyguard.
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Post by pierinifitness on Oct 21, 2020 22:12:09 GMT
Just to add a postscript, I’ve never ran away from “trouble.” Not that I’ve had much in my lifetime. About ten years ago, I confronted two guys by myself after they sat in my front porch steps and left a bunch of empty beer bottles there. I was furious, jumped in my car and found them a half-mile away. I confronted them and the bigger of the two ended up being she “spokesman” for the two.
I kept a safe distance while the two us us engaged in a duel of words and stares. Eventually, the big “Brutha” apologized for leaving the empty beer bottles on my steps and asked me if I wanted him to go back and clean up the mess.
I accepted his apology, told him going back wasn’t necessary but never go there again. Then I left.
It was stupid what I did solo but I was pissed.
Had another encounter with a group of 5-6 of young adult skateboarders once. Again, I kept my distance and prevailed in getting them to skedaddle from a neighboring parking lot behind my home where they were loitering and making noise annoying my wife. That was stupid too but I was pissed.
In both instances, I was in my early 50’s and knee deep in my martial arts training. And I was a far better runner then than now.
This was when I lived in midtown, a gentrified area close to downtown where you’re more likely to encounter these situations.
Now I live in a nice and safe rural community where all my neighbors are locked and loaded. Feels good.
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Post by Michael on Oct 21, 2020 22:47:48 GMT
Something I learned from living in bad neighborhoods in the past is a verbal confrontation usually leads to retaliation later on. It may be different depending on where You live. That retaliation doesn't always come in a physical way. It could come in the way of a broken window, slashed tires, etc... Could site examples I've seen but You get the point. I'm glad none of this happened to You Pierini. I've always tried to be observant of the people in all the neighborhoods I have lived and live now. Just minded my own business, even though sometimes this can be difficult. If there are older people where I lived I always tried to help them by cutting their grass or anything else they would need.
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Post by macky on Oct 22, 2020 6:22:20 GMT
Just to add a postscript, I’ve never ran away from “trouble.” Not that I’ve had much in my lifetime. About ten years ago, I confronted two guys by myself after they sat in my front porch steps and left a bunch of empty beer bottles there. I was furious, jumped in my car and found them a half-mile away. I confronted them and the bigger of the two ended up being she “spokesman” for the two. I kept a safe distance while the two us us engaged in a duel of words and stares. Eventually, the big “Brutha” apologized for leaving the empty beer bottles on my steps and asked me if I wanted him to go back and clean up the mess. I accepted his apology, told him going back wasn’t necessary but never go there again. Then I left. It was stupid what I did solo but I was pissed. Had another encounter with a group of 5-6 of young adult skateboarders once. Again, I kept my distance and prevailed in getting them to skedaddle from a neighboring parking lot behind my home where they were loitering and making noise annoying my wife. That was stupid too but I was pissed. In both instances, I was in my early 50’s and knee deep in my martial arts training. And I was a far better runner then than now. This was when I lived in midtown, a gentrified area close to downtown where you’re more likely to encounter these situations. Now I live in a nice and safe rural community where all my neighbors are locked and loaded. Feels good. Just make sure you don't knock on anyone's door after old folks' nigh-nighs. You might receive half the contents of the house's ammunition store, courtesy of a half-asleep war veteran woken by rapid fire incoming. Gun-happy America Kudos to the old hero in the video, but he was lucky. The punk wasn't much. Baz is right about the head-butts, knees, elbows etc. The guy that ran my wife's karate school emphasized all that, pokes in the eyes, throat etc. Not much emphasis on kata, but training for raw power and effective techniques. After the style of Mas Oyama, who he trained under.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 7:39:44 GMT
Lee Morrison no bullshit self defence. No way I just unboxed Michael with one of Lee's videos . I plan on joining his gym after the scamdemic has calmed down !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 9:25:02 GMT
I take it this old man should have sprinted away like the young athlete he is or maybe he did the right thing ? The prose technique is called "disarming humor" to get a point across & accepted. Humor certainly works on taking the panties off the ladies (Keep ur jockies on. I'll pass). I failed to get my main salient point across to u. Not I nor any sane thinking person is suggesting u simply sit there & suck on ur thumb while Dick Dastardly taps u lightly on the head until the lump comes out & grabs ur lunch money. What I AM saying is going head up recklessly can be bad for the brain & your overall health. It isn't written in stone ya gotta stand there & go toe to toe like "Rock 'em, Sock' em Robots". John Wayne be damned! Whatever it takes man! I said I was "triggered" by ur comments & my rant wasn't created merely in a vacuum or due to a psychotic break. I got my ass whalloped badly 2 weeks ago & it's effects are still being felt now. I got bruised ribs, a dislocated collarbone , a chipped tooth & a concussion to boot. I had to get an cranial CT scan just to make sure no wires were loose inside. I had an embolism years ago. So that gave me a big scare. This exhibition match happened because I went head up & stood my ground. In retrospect, I should have grabbed something big & heavy & nailed the prick with it instead of dancing with him. No, I wasn't drunk or being a dick. It was righteous. I simply fucked with the wrong person & got my ass handed back to me. He may have been bigger than me but he was stupider than me. I figured I had a good chance to throw down but who knew? He shook off everything I threw at him & acted like I had just offered him a slice of birthday cake. U fuck with bull u get the horns. To tell the truth I was scared & shook like a leaf afterwards. That old man can apply to be my bodyguard. I totally get where you was coming from moxohol , i was just trying to get my point across to pierini and if it come across wrong I apologise to the man ! And jeez mate that's sounds serious what happened to you and is a good example of why we need to learn some form of self defence to have at least some chance of getting out of such messy situations . Rest up and take it easy mate 👍
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Post by moxohol on Oct 22, 2020 10:36:56 GMT
The prose technique is called "disarming humor" to get a point across & accepted. Humor certainly works on taking the panties off the ladies (Keep ur jockies on. I'll pass). I failed to get my main salient point across to u. Not I nor any sane thinking person is suggesting u simply sit there & suck on ur thumb while Dick Dastardly taps u lightly on the head until the lump comes out & grabs ur lunch money. What I AM saying is going head up recklessly can be bad for the brain & your overall health. It isn't written in stone ya gotta stand there & go toe to toe like "Rock 'em, Sock' em Robots". John Wayne be damned! Whatever it takes man! I said I was "triggered" by ur comments & my rant wasn't created merely in a vacuum or due to a psychotic break. I got my ass whalloped badly 2 weeks ago & it's effects are still being felt now. I got bruised ribs, a dislocated collarbone , a chipped tooth & a concussion to boot. I had to get an cranial CT scan just to make sure no wires were loose inside. I had an embolism years ago. So that gave me a big scare. This exhibition match happened because I went head up & stood my ground. In retrospect, I should have grabbed something big & heavy & nailed the prick with it instead of dancing with him. No, I wasn't drunk or being a dick. It was righteous. I simply fucked with the wrong person & got my ass handed back to me. He may have been bigger than me but he was stupider than me. I figured I had a good chance to throw down but who knew? He shook off everything I threw at him & acted like I had just offered him a slice of birthday cake. U fuck with bull u get the horns. To tell the truth I was scared & shook like a leaf afterwards. That old man can apply to be my bodyguard. I totally get where you was coming from moxohol , i was just trying to get my point across to pierini and if it come across wrong I apologise to the man ! And jeez mate that's sounds serious what happened to you and is a good example of why we need to learn some form of self defence to have at least some chance of getting out of such messy situations . Rest up and take it easy mate 👍 I wasn't sure if I was being too flippant with u to have my points taken seriously? Sometimes, my humor is too much & it obscures the facts while ur pissing yourself laughing. It's not what I'm after. That's all. "Learn Self-Defense"?? I did a textbook Captain Fairbairn maneuver on him & all it did was piss him off! He glared at me, said something in french & charged me. It was all I could do just to cling to him & keep him from beating me senseless with those big meathooks of his. Flopping about like a rodeo rider was one observation. Personally, I felt like his CFL offensive lineman practice for that afternoon. He did all he could to shake me off & I was frightened beyond belief to let go. His wife saved the day by standing him down long enough to have security arrive & end it. I had notified security & placed on standby just in case. My wife called them. Any delusions of emulating Steven Seagal vaporized at that instant.
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Post by stuke on Oct 22, 2020 10:52:21 GMT
A few weeks ago I had an incident where I was pushing my bike along a loose gravel path on a field. I lifted it over a wooden gate onto the road as a man walking his dog stood about 20'away by the metal gate for walkers. I said morning but he blanked me. He then walked past and called ma an a hole, so I said what did you say? He repeated it so I asked why. He then flew into a rage aboutcit being a footpath and not for bikes, swearing at me, so I looked to the sign and said, where does it say ni cycling? Fhis guy was furious, got right in my face which pissed me off so I told hin to get the f out of my face, covid etc He said or what? I said I think you know what and then I had had enough so I came out with some choice language. I dont like situations but this was to much for me to just walk away. I honestly dont know why he was so raging, I know a lot of cyclists are idiots, but I am always polite and respectful on mine. There was no reasoning with this prick and he did start walking off but I had to tell hin to keeo walking as he was still mouthing. I think as I had my helmwt on he probably thought I was maybe younger than I am or a pushover... Never felt like smacking someone so much hahaha. He must have been in his 60s too! What makes, someone just decide they can start on someone and what makes then think they will be able to intimidatecor even beat a stranger up? That stranger could be anyone! I have noticed around here over the last year or so it seems to be the older guys with the attitude, guys on their 50s, 60s. No idea why. Had a similar one a while back whefe this guy tried to lift uo my bike with me on it hahaha and also kicked the wheel. I am glad I did not kick offin a way, because no goid comes from a fught in many instances, but I also felt pissed off that I hadn't too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 11:24:49 GMT
A few weeks ago I had an incident where I was pushing my bike along a loose gravel path on a field. I lifted it over a wooden gate onto the road as a man walking his dog stood about 20'away by the metal gate for walkers. I said morning but he blanked me. He then walked past and called ma an a hole, so I said what did you say? He repeated it so I asked why. He then flew into a rage aboutcit being a footpath and not for bikes, swearing at me, so I looked to the sign and said, where does it say ni cycling? Fhis guy was furious, got right in my face which pissed me off so I told hin to get the f out of my face, covid etc He said or what? I said I think you know what and then I had had enough so I came out with some choice language. I dont like situations but this was to much for me to just walk away. I honestly dont know why he was so raging, I know a lot of cyclists are idiots, but I am always polite and respectful on mine. There was no reasoning with this prick and he did start walking off but I had to tell hin to keeo walking as he was still mouthing. I think as I had my helmwt on he probably thought I was maybe younger than I am or a pushover... Never felt like smacking someone so much hahaha. He must have been in his 60s too! What makes, someone just decide they can start on someone and what makes then think they will be able to intimidatecor even beat a stranger up? That stranger could be anyone! I have noticed around here over the last year or so it seems to be the older guys with the attitude, guys on their 50s, 60s. No idea why. Had a similar one a while back whefe this guy tried to lift uo my bike with me on it hahaha and also kicked the wheel. I am glad I did not kick offin a way, because no goid comes from a fught in many instances, but I also felt pissed off that I hadn't too. That dude sounded like an arsehole ! But that's the thing it is so easy to get into fights these days and i suppose a lot of people don't get into many fights in their life because they back down due to fear which is what i have always been the complete opposite of , which i put down to my upbringing . When me and my brothers was kids my dad taught us to ALWAYS fight back and if we came into the house and told him we had trouble with a kid he would make us go out and fight , even my sister use to beat up boys it was a crazy upbringing with a lot of violence and i just think that was why me my brothers and sister ended up being so fucked up with mental issues . I am a MUCH calmer person these days , and more emotional and caring too which i put down to my beautiful little daughter , watching scooby doo, powerpuff girls and Tom n Jerry on repeat and playing dress up as a princess will do that to you . I love my bikes too I currently have a carerra hybrid although it is a bit bust up , I'm planning on getting a new one soon !
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 22, 2020 13:18:46 GMT
...... What makes, someone just decide they can start on someone and what makes then think they will be able to intimidatecor even beat a stranger up? That stranger could be anyone! I have noticed around here over the last year or so it seems to be the older guys with the attitude, guys on their 50s, 60s. No idea why. ...... Gut ache from bad food, death of a loved one/close family, loss of job, just coming off of an addictive substance, fake pandemic, isolation, fear, lockdown, insufficient O2/extreme excess of CO2 from chronic mask wearing, etc, etc. It could be any number of negative events and fears - past, present or thoughts of future - that make them feel dragged down and that they are trying to fight off. Sometimes, they're looking for someone who can beat them as 'punishment' for the guilt they're holding onto, as they have judged themselves.
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Post by moxohol on Oct 22, 2020 14:11:23 GMT
...... What makes, someone just decide they can start on someone and what makes then think they will be able to intimidatecor even beat a stranger up? That stranger could be anyone! I have noticed around here over the last year or so it seems to be the older guys with the attitude, guys on their 50s, 60s. No idea why. ...... Gut ache from bad food, death of a loved one/close family, loss of job, just coming off of an addictive substance, fake pandemic, isolation, fear, lockdown, insufficient O2/extreme excess of CO2 from chronic mask wearing, etc, etc. It could be any number of negative events and fears - past, present or thoughts of future - that make them feel dragged down and that they are trying to fight off. Sometimes, they're looking for someone who can beat them as 'punishment' for the guilt they're holding onto, as they have judged themselves. Why not just low T & a shitty personality? Plenty of seniors who get divorced because they become A-holes & the spouses eventually get tired of their shit. Most stay together for the kids' sakes & part company later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 16:07:40 GMT
I totally get where you was coming from moxohol , i was just trying to get my point across to pierini and if it come across wrong I apologise to the man ! And jeez mate that's sounds serious what happened to you and is a good example of why we need to learn some form of self defence to have at least some chance of getting out of such messy situations . Rest up and take it easy mate 👍 I wasn't sure if I was being too flippant with u to have my points taken seriously? Sometimes, my humor is too much & it obscures the facts while ur pissing yourself laughing. It's not what I'm after. That's all. "Learn Self-Defense"?? I did a textbook Captain Fairbairn maneuver on him & all it did was piss him off! He glared at me, said something in french & charged me. It was all I could do just to cling to him & keep him from beating me senseless with those big meathooks of his. Flopping about like a rodeo rider was one observation. Personally, I felt like his CFL offensive lineman practice for that afternoon. He did all he could to shake me off & I was frightened beyond belief to let go. His wife saved the day by standing him down long enough to have security arrive & end it. I had notified security & placed on standby just in case. My wife called them. Any delusions of emulating Steven Seagal vaporized at that instant. It's all good mox you have a similar personality to me mate I'm always acting like a prat and doing dumb shit for giggles it's the best way to be ! That's messed up what happened to you but could you imagine having had some self defence training and practicing in your own time on techniques and drills !? At the very least it would give you more confidence to deal with that kind of situation that you experienced and you would of dealt with it better and would have been able to defend yourself without getting hurt as badly as you did .
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Post by Bob50 on Oct 22, 2020 17:28:16 GMT
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Post by moxohol on Oct 22, 2020 17:59:50 GMT
I wasn't sure if I was being too flippant with u to have my points taken seriously? Sometimes, my humor is too much & it obscures the facts while ur pissing yourself laughing. It's not what I'm after. That's all. "Learn Self-Defense"?? I did a textbook Captain Fairbairn maneuver on him & all it did was piss him off! He glared at me, said something in french & charged me. It was all I could do just to cling to him & keep him from beating me senseless with those big meathooks of his. Flopping about like a rodeo rider was one observation. Personally, I felt like his CFL offensive lineman practice for that afternoon. He did all he could to shake me off & I was frightened beyond belief to let go. His wife saved the day by standing him down long enough to have security arrive & end it. I had notified security & placed on standby just in case. My wife called them. Any delusions of emulating Steven Seagal vaporized at that instant. It's all good mox you have a similar personality to me mate I'm always acting like a prat and doing dumb shit for giggles it's the best way to be ! That's messed up what happened to you but could you imagine having had some self defence training and practicing in your own time on techniques and drills !? At the very least it would give you more confidence to deal with that kind of situation that you experienced and you would of dealt with it better and would have been able to defend yourself without getting hurt as badly as you did . The chin jab & knee strike I did on the guy was worthy of a BBC instant replay in slow motion & a victory run across the field. How much more self defense training do u need then that? All it did was piss him off. I even manage to jump on his back & put him in a figure 4 & body lock. It pissed him off even more. I'm 73kg. I'm not that diesel. He was 100kg easy. Does the phase, "biting off more then u can chew" come to mind? I attempted to choke him out. WRONG! Have u got any idea of what an impact against a wall (multiple times), a kitchen counter or a floor is like when someone is mad? It was all l could do to HOLD ON.
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Post by Michael on Oct 22, 2020 19:26:18 GMT
Moxohol I'm sorry that stuff happened to you. Even though that really happened to you, the way you described it was hilarious. I always thought you were just a little weird but you are pretty funny.
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