TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 8, 2017 14:39:13 GMT
This morning, I was so inspired by everyone's Moving Iosmetrics posts that I performed an MI workout.
What you ask??!!! Can this be true?? Will Bruv emoji-bomb me for daring utter this these two words in the same sentence??
Ah, but I can. Starting with a pair of respectably heavy DBs, I got them into the 'top' position and started by lowering the weights around 2 - 3" and held (isometrics) for a count of 10 seconds. Moving (lowering) them another 2 - 3", I held that position for another count of 10 seconds. And so on for a total of six iso-holds on the negative and reversed the process for five on the positive (before running out of gas).
Not a new idea nor am I / will I take credit for the idea (unlike the little white pants guru). Bruv and some others will remember Pete Cerqua -- I came across his information around 10 years ago on the web and posted his information on Dave W's or Portalguy's site. Pete was generous enough to spend around 20 min on the phone with me explaining his method and why he felt it is better/more effective than SuperSlow. If you watch the video, he explains his method starting around 30 seconds. (NOTE: Pete's book, which was finally published in 2009, is a pretty thorough publication which provides workouts for everyone from the beginner to the more advanced. Unfortunately, it seemed to be focused on women and missed out on the potential male audience. Don't know why as his workout, if done properly, will crush it for any man or woman.)
The more you think about Pete's approach, it is a pretty complete method. You get the positive, the negative and isometrics (to include the multi-position isometric option which Bruce mentioned in a post two or three days ago). And compared with SuperSlow, I can also use more weight and I honestly enjoy it better than SS.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 14:54:22 GMT
Ah, but I can. Starting with a pair of respectably heavy DBs, I got them into the 'top' position and started by lowering the weights around 2 - 3" and held (isometrics) for a count of 10 seconds. Moving (lowering) them another 2 - 3", I held that position for another count of 10 seconds. And so on for a total of six iso-holds on the negative and reversed the process for five on the positive (before running out of gas). Aha, mon ami'! But you did NOT perform "Moving Isometrics". You held non-moving isometrics at specific points. Your movements were only in moving to those points. I have saved you from the wrath of Bruv!
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 14:56:17 GMT
Actually, that sounds brutal. I wonder what the results would be for someone who kept that up for an extended period.
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TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 8, 2017 15:08:59 GMT
Ah, but I can. Starting with a pair of respectably heavy DBs, I got them into the 'top' position and started by lowering the weights around 2 - 3" and held (isometrics) for a count of 10 seconds. Moving (lowering) them another 2 - 3", I held that position for another count of 10 seconds. And so on for a total of six iso-holds on the negative and reversed the process for five on the positive (before running out of gas). Aha, mon ami'! But you did NOT perform "Moving Isometrics". You held non-moving isometrics at specific points. Your movements were only in moving to those points. I have saved you from the wrath of Bruv! You're too good to me!
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 8, 2017 16:51:43 GMT
".... you did NOT perform "Moving Isometrics"...." No one ever has. ".... held non-moving isometrics ....." That's redundant. Isometrics are defined as non-moving - the only type there is. I do something like TR mentions, but I call it a "pause" since there is some movement - as when I'm walking w/ DBs overhead but unlocked elbows, the jostling of every step causes some movement in the muscle length and angle of my joints @ shoulders & elbows. Same for a dip - I do pauses &/or shake and don't go down further than elbows @ 90*. Sustained effort and tension shortens my exercise duration. Even though I may pause in the motion, the tension never stops. Kicks my ass quickly and feels very good. I suppose if wanted to really work at it, I could be jacked, but I'm not interested in work, discomfort, injury, pain or doing something that I need more than 24 hrs to recover enough to do it again w/o soreness or pain. So, I hang & swing every day. I do various squats every day. I walk every day. I do loaded carries and move-arounds every day. I stretch/twist/wiggle/squirm/squat, supported by my door/hook anchored ropes &/or bands every day. I lift my Health Lift every day. I do a dip or two every day. On some days, when I want a special treat, I do alternating arm DB C&P. Because I'm not beating myself up in one workout session, I can do these more than once in a day, every day. I just want to be healthy, feel good, look good (as well as I'm able) and live w/o pain or injury in a life-sustainable way.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 18:01:39 GMT
".... you did NOT perform "Moving Isometrics"...." No one ever has. ".... held non-moving isometrics ....." That's redundant. Isometrics are defined as non-moving - the only type there is. I do something like TR mentions, but I call it a "pause" since there is some movement - as when I'm walking w/ DBs overhead but unlocked elbows, the jostling of every step causes some movement in the muscle length and angle of my joints @ shoulders & elbows. Same for a dip - I do pauses &/or shake and don't go down further than elbows @ 90*. Sustained effort and tension shortens my exercise duration. Even though I may pause in the motion, the tension never stops. Kicks my ass quickly and feels very good. I suppose if wanted to really work at it, I could be jacked, but I'm not interested in work, discomfort, injury, pain or doing something that I need more than 24 hrs to recover enough to do it again w/o soreness or pain. So, I hang & swing every day. I do various squats every day. I walk every day. I do loaded carries and move-arounds every day. I stretch/twist/wiggle/squirm/squat, supported by my door/hook anchored ropes &/or bands every day. I lift my Health Lift every day. I do a dip or two every day. On some days, when I want a special treat, I do alternating arm DB C&P. Because I'm not beating myself up in one workout session, I can do these more than once in a day, every day. I just want to be healthy, feel good, look good (as well as I'm able) and live w/o pain or injury in a life-sustainable way. What is a Health Lift? What is C&P?
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 8, 2017 18:34:18 GMT
My Health Lift is pictured in your DIY Equipment thingy. Oh - and I've added a 10# plate to the top, under the rope, since those pix, so it weighs 110# now. Not a lot. Not BW, but respectable after I hold it, move it and gently swing it for a while. I pick it up and don't put it down until .... "Dumbbell Clean & Press" ...... Do you have any idea how long I was exercising before I knew what - the movement of one dumbbell, using alternating arms (I've always started w/ the weakest arm), squatting, lifting the DB to shoulder and then pressing overhead - was called or had an acronym? I've learned this shit from you guys, you know? It's been my fitness journey to do stuff and find out later that others do it too - once I figure out what the hell they're saying.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 8, 2017 18:39:14 GMT
BTW, Bruce, When I first bought my The Hook, I didn't ask you how to use it, I didn't read your instruction book, I just started pulling them MF'rs.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 19:20:58 GMT
A man after my own heart!
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 19:25:51 GMT
Oh. Well, don't keep us in suspense!
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 8, 2017 19:42:06 GMT
..... until I'm done w/ the exercise! Before I start burning &/or run out of huff & puff.
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Post by Mr Average on Oct 8, 2017 20:43:16 GMT
Well I perform moving Isometrics at least once a day, I have just got off the toilet after my latest Isometric movement.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 8, 2017 21:07:35 GMT
I don't know how to break this to you, blag, but it wasn't isometrics you were moving.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 9, 2017 6:06:19 GMT
No shit
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Post by Alan OldStudent on Oct 9, 2017 9:36:19 GMT
BTW, Bruce, When I first bought my The Hook, I didn't ask you how to use it, I didn't read your instruction book, I just started pulling them MF'rs. Mikey, Try this: Do a couple of sets of pulling the MF'rs and then try it with the bands. Don't try this until you're well rested.
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