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Post by determinator on Sept 13, 2022 13:48:30 GMT
Pardon me, but how is spear gun tubing different from surgical rubber tubing? I think it is pretty much the same thing. Compared to the surgical tubing I bought from Shen, the spear gun Tubing recommended by Fred Crivello is thicker and has a much smaller hole down the center and provides significantly more resistance. This is what I bought. 5/8 in (16mm) Speargun Band/Sling Latex Primeline Rubber Tubing (Select Length and Color) a.co/d/h9tcncDI also bought a piece that same diameter at first (at 9 feet of length) for the same reason... it was what Fred Crivello recommended in his training material. But I found that for my purposes it was a bit much, so I bought some smaller sizes at 10 feet. Probably for a short piece that is easier to grab, and for carrying around with you and using here and there throughout the day, the 16 mm would be more ideal. There might be more of an isometric component built in with that size as well. Thanks for your link, ganesha!
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Post by ganesha on Sept 13, 2022 13:53:45 GMT
I think it is pretty much the same thing. Compared to the surgical tubing I bought from Shen, the spear gun Tubing recommended by Fred Crivello is thicker and has a much smaller hole down the center and provides significantly more resistance. This is what I bought. 5/8 in (16mm) Speargun Band/Sling Latex Primeline Rubber Tubing (Select Length and Color) a.co/d/h9tcncDI also bought a piece that same diameter at first (at 9 feet of length) for the same reason... it was what Fred Crivello recommended in his training material. But I found that for my purposes it was a bit much, so I bought some smaller sizes at 10 feet. Probably for a short piece that is easier to grab, and for carrying around with you and using here and there throughout the day, the 16 mm would be more ideal. There might be more of an isometric component built in with that size as well. Thanks for your link, ganesha! I found that diameter great for impressing my girlfriend. I gave her the length of tubing and she was amazed I could stretch it as far as I could. As good as keeping a bullworker in the corner to impress women 😃!
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Post by ganesha on Sept 13, 2022 13:55:44 GMT
I also bought a piece that same diameter at first (at 9 feet of length) for the same reason... it was what Fred Crivello recommended in his training material. But I found that for my purposes it was a bit much, so I bought some smaller sizes at 10 feet. Probably for a short piece that is easier to grab, and for carrying around with you and using here and there throughout the day, the 16 mm would be more ideal. There might be more of an isometric component built in with that size as well. Thanks for your link, ganesha! I found that diameter great for impressing my girlfriend. I gave her the length of tubing and she was amazed I could stretch it as far as I could. As good as keeping a bullworker in the corner to impress women 😃! I am going to need to experiment with some different inner and outer diameters and lengths, probably. At this point I only have the 3 foot using the Crivello guidelines.
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Post by determinator on Sept 13, 2022 16:09:08 GMT
I just ordered a 10 foot piece of 14mm (9/16") x 1.5 mm (1/16") tubing off of Amazon. It is called "Primeline Premium". It is a size that I don't have yet, just above 1/2" OD but smaller than the 5/8"OD length. The inner diameter hole is smaller than my current pieces, too. You want tubing with a small inner diameter, either 1/8" or 1/16". It cost $38.84 total, so not the cheapest. It should last forever, though. There are less expensive choices from Spearit Group LLC on Amazon, and that is where my current pieces were from. I see I bought them back on August 14, 2014, so 8 years ago. They still do the job, with some light wear in the middle of the 10 foot length from door knob friction.
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Post by stormshadow on Sept 13, 2022 19:18:43 GMT
D you can reduce that friction damage caused by the knob by using a looped yoga strap, martial arts belt or even a sturdy military cotton canvas type belt. I loop it over both knobs at once to spread stress across the anchor point and it keeps the door from "wagging" back and forth like a dog's tail. A wider cotton strap type works best. I would not use rope because it can cause even more friction than the belt. Unless you use thick marine rope to anchor water craft to a dock.
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Post by gruntbrain on Sept 13, 2022 19:47:16 GMT
How does spear gun tubing compare with bulk exercise tubing offered in Amazon? Durability difference?
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Post by stormshadow on Sept 13, 2022 20:41:05 GMT
You can get higher resistance, it feels stiffer and harder to hold on to with your bare hands. I do also use normal latex tubing too. I like the feel of the latex more, but I get a harder workout with the spear gun. I think more durable because thicker
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Post by ganesha on Sept 13, 2022 23:04:12 GMT
It might be a bit novelty but at the moment I'm liking just the heavy spear gun tubing even more than lighter surgical tubing with my Samson handles or Hook Inch handles, and any combination of flat bands and handles that I have. I will still use it all, but the spear gun tubing definitely stays in the mix.
Also, I am thinking of getting some even thicker tubing for more resistance.
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Post by determinator on Sept 13, 2022 23:43:26 GMT
D you can reduce that friction damage caused by the knob by using a looped yoga strap, martial arts belt or even a sturdy military cotton canvas type belt. I loop it over both knobs at once to spread stress across the anchor point and it keeps the door from "wagging" back and forth like a dog's tail. A wider cotton strap type works best. I would not use rope because it can cause even more friction than the belt. Unless you use thick marine rope to anchor water craft to a dock. Thanks for the tip, stormshadow, good idea!
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Post by determinator on Sept 13, 2022 23:55:01 GMT
It might just be novelty but at the moment I'm liking just the heavy spear gun tubing even more than lighter surgical tubing withmy Samson handles or Hook Inch handles, and any combination of flat bands and handles that I have. I will still use it all, but the spear gun tubing definitely stays in the mix. Also, I am thinking of getting some even thicker tubing for more resistance. You're a beast, ganesha! I was thinking of chopping off a 3 foot piece of my 5/8" tubing to see what I can do with it. I'm thinking that my new piece of tubing that's coming might take the place of my 9 foot one with 5/8" OD, if the ID is smaller on the new one. It might have about the same resistance as the old 5/8 piece. The OD is slightly bigger on the old one, but it has a larger ID. It's hard to cut the old one up though, since I won't have the long length with that one after that. I see that you have the Samson handles too. I really like those.
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 14, 2022 0:35:02 GMT
In situations while using bands, when I want to reduce friction or abrasion, I use an HDPE grocery sack. It can be positioned between the bearing surface and the band and wrapped around the anchor with the band. HDPE is the stiffer, noisy PE.
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Post by ganesha on Sept 14, 2022 5:33:09 GMT
It might just be novelty but at the moment I'm liking just the heavy spear gun tubing even more than lighter surgical tubing withmy Samson handles or Hook Inch handles, and any combination of flat bands and handles that I have. I will still use it all, but the spear gun tubing definitely stays in the mix. Also, I am thinking of getting some even thicker tubing for more resistance. You're a beast, ganesha! I was thinking of chopping off a 3 foot piece of my 5/8" tubing to see what I can do with it. I'm thinking that my new piece of tubing that's coming might take the place of my 9 foot one with 5/8" OD, if the ID is smaller on the new one. It might have about the same resistance as the old 5/8 piece. The OD is slightly bigger on the old one, but it has a larger ID. It's hard to cut the old one up though, since I won't have the long length with that one after that. I see that you have the Samson handles too. I really like those. Thanks. Yes, I like the Samson handles a lot. I am pretty into bands. I like the idea of having different lengths and thicknesses of the spear gun tubing and the grip strength from not using any handles.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Sept 14, 2022 6:19:18 GMT
Do any of you guys make your speargun tubing into loops?
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Post by determinator on Sept 14, 2022 8:28:03 GMT
Do any of you guys make your speargun tubing into loops? Maybe someone does, but I think that speargun tubing is purchased to be used as a single length. It is pretty heavy as is when used that way and originally intended for that purpose. To double it up and make a loop from it might be a high resistance that ganesha could use, but not myself. Also latex tubing likes to roll around if you tie the ends into knot if you use the thinner ones, making it unstable but not impossible. I don't think that method of making a loop would be practical for the larger speargun tubing. Maybe there's another way to make loops out of speargun tubing, though.
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Post by stormshadow on Sept 14, 2022 12:52:17 GMT
Do any of you guys make your speargun tubing into loops? Bruv I wanted to but never figured out how to do without damaging tubing. I inserted about three inch wooden dowel on each end then overlayed the two ends by about four inches. I then wrapped the overlayed ends in duct tape with an overlay of zip ties on top of the tape. It worked for a while but then eventually came undone and also had damage where the zip ties were. I thought about wrapping in old bike tube instead of tape but did not bother
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