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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 4, 2022 7:55:13 GMT
..... "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." - Maximilien de Robespierre It's working for them right here on the Sierra Exercise Forum, too. As long as the ignorant choose to remain ignorant, the jabs will go on. Factoid: Although Rocky sought to destroy the effective established traditional forms of medical treatment and was obviously (and deviously) quite successful at replacing them with his schools for drug salesmen (also known as "MD"s), his PERSONAL physician was a homeopath! Why? Because he knew what actually worked, even though it didn't sell his waste chemicals.
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Post by jonrock on Jul 4, 2022 14:55:50 GMT
Rob and his pals really knew their shit.
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Post by jonrock on Jul 4, 2022 15:05:04 GMT
..... "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." - Maximilien de Robespierre It's working for them right here on the Sierra Exercise Forum, too. As long as the ignorant choose to remain ignorant, the jabs will go on. Factoid: Although Rocky sought to destroy the effective established traditional forms of medical treatment and was obviously (and deviously) quite successful at replacing them with his schools for drug salesmen (also known as "MD"s), his PERSONAL physician was a homeopath! Why? Because he knew what actually worked, even though it didn't sell his waste chemicals. My mother is a medical doctor and she is not a drug saleswoman, she is a caring, intelligent and fantastic professional who has saved many lives and who is beloved by her many nonagenarian and centenarian patients. She prescribes what is needed, if medicine is needed, medicine is given. Her elderly patients are happy to take said medicines and live to an advanced age instead of having crappy years prior to certain and premature death. The "vaccine" thing has nothing to do with medical doctors, but farmaceuticals.
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Post by billfish on Jul 4, 2022 16:00:59 GMT
My mother is a medical doctor and she is not a drug saleswoman, she is a caring, intelligent and fantastic professional who has saved many lives and who is beloved by her many nonagenarian and centenarian patients. She prescribes what is needed, if medicine is needed, medicine is given. Her elderly patients are happy to take said medicines and live to an advanced age instead of having crappy years prior to certain and premature death. The "vaccine" thing has nothing to do with medical doctors, but farmaceuticals. THANK YOU jonrock ! And a big Thank You to your mother......for her dedication, kindness and professionalism !
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Post by billfish on Jul 4, 2022 16:19:09 GMT
Mikey apparently has overlooked the fact that the vast majority of doctors, nurses and other health care professionals are dedicated, caring people who have taken years of advanced education to become what they are When I was a fireman I was seriously burned on the right side of my face, neck and ear.....these burns required being admitted to a burn center, where I received excellent and professional treatment. These are not people pushing pharmaceuticals or "drug salesmen" Without the treatment I received I would have been seriously disfigured, but only have a small scar on my neck Many, many people owe their lives to the professionalism and dedication of people like this And to belittle them is really a cheap shot.....the day may come when he may need the services of such people ( I hope not )
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 4, 2022 16:43:54 GMT
You're talking about trauma, BF. US doctors are great at that. I'm talking about "healthcare" which they are taught (again, I'm talking about Rocky's medical education system, not individual doctors) to understand as disease management. Chronic disease isn't something to manage with drugs and more drugs. It's something to eliminate with good diet, nutrition, exercise, etc. The ones who care study nutrition on their own since it isn't taught more than an hour or two in all of the years they go to school (Rocky's schools) and will spend the time to get to know their patients, not just see them for 12 minutes and write a script for meds.
Good for your mom, jonrock! I know there are good MDs, but no thanks to Rocky's system. Did she go to school here in the US? Does she practice here in the US?
Like I said before, the US has the highest cost for the lowest ranking worldwide in quality and outcomes ..... for HEALTHCARE. The book, "Assault On Medical Freedom" that is reviewed in denis' video post explains why. Read it. It will help you to understand how we arrived at the sorry state of healthcare we have in the US.
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Post by billfish on Jul 4, 2022 17:02:56 GMT
You're talking about trauma, BF. US doctors are great at that. I'm talking about "healthcare" which they are taught (again, I'm talking about Rocky's medical education system, not individual doctors) to understand as disease management. Chronic disease isn't something to manage with drugs and more drugs. It's something to eliminate with good diet, nutrition, exercise, etc. The ones who care study nutrition on their own since it isn't taught more than an hour or two in all of the years they go to school (Rocky's schools) and will spend the time to get to know their patients, not just see them for 12 minutes and write a script for meds. Good for your mom, jonrock! I know there are good MDs, but no thanks to Rocky's system. Did she go to school here in the US? Does she practice here in the US? Like I said before, the US has the highest cost for the lowest ranking worldwide in quality and outcomes ..... for HEALTHCARE. The book, "Assault On Medical Freedom" that is reviewed in denis' video post explains why. Read it. It will help you to understand how we arrived at the sorry state of healthcare we have in the US. Not only trauma....there are good doctors out there
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 4, 2022 17:07:12 GMT
Good grief, BF, I just said that!
"I know there are good MDs, but no thanks to Rocky's system."
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 5, 2022 1:05:08 GMT
My alternative medicine has gone flaccid . Currently no one is interested in cock-u-pressure
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Post by denis on Jul 5, 2022 6:06:08 GMT
Are the foods we source from supermarkets, growers’ markets or even organic produce outlets really providing the nutritional requirements we need to maintain good health? Are some worth eating at all? Why are we collectively gaining weight and suffering increased rates of hypertension, diabetes, gout and cardiovascular disease even though food is at near obsession levels for a lot of us. But it wasn’t like this for those in the world’s longest living culture … wildfoodscience.com/
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Post by denis on Jul 8, 2022 8:25:06 GMT
Bad Medicine: Doctors Doing Harm Since Hippocrates
Iain McClure, consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist
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Irecently read George Bernard Shaw's The Doctor's Dilemma and experienced an unexpected sense of insult on behalf of my profession. In this celebrated play, Shaw serially indicts various kinds of late 19th century doctor—the hypocrite, the self publicist, and (most dangerous of all) the blinkered zealot. While I admired the plot construction, I suspected that Shaw had created such character extremes for comic effect. However, having read David Wootton's Bad Medicine, I am now no longer insulted and, on behalf of my profession, feel somewhat grateful to Shaw for his restraint. For, as Wootton painstakingly argues in this short but undoubtedly explosive new book, the history of medicine has been nothing less than a failure and doctors have been the culprits. Although Bad Medicine is short, Wootton has written “three books in one.” In the first part he surveys a tradition of therapy that survived for 2300 years, from Hippocrates until the early 20th century. In the second, he describes an important phase stretching from the mid-16th to the mid-19th century “in which medical knowledge progressed, but in which that knowledge had little or no significance for therapy.” In the final section, he considers the emergence of medical knowledge in the mid-19th century that went on to establish “a positive feedback loop with medical therapy” so that progress in knowledge led to progress in therapy and consequently more investment in research. This is our current medical era and Wootton's important book informs us in such a way as to infer possibilities regarding our future progress. These are either good or bad and our choice of either route depends on our understanding of medicine's history.
Wootton explains that Hippocrates (who possibly never existed) introduced “an entirely new approach to medicine” that still permeates current thinking. So, from him we have the notion that disease has a natural (as opposed to a supernatural) origin and that its impact must be carefully observed. The two fundamental Hippocratic branches of medicine—one involving hands-on manipulation and the other being concerned with the inner workings of the body—instigated a divergence between artisan based surgery and university controlled medicine. This was consolidated in northern Europe from the 13th century and still pertains with the “mister-doctor” division. It was perhaps encouraging to note that most medical innovations arose from unbiased artisans and away from the centres of excellence (and tradition).
However, despite its important innovations, Hippocratic and (its successor) Galenic medicine developed a stranglehold on medical innovation that suffocated progress for over 2000 years. Their trademark “therapies” of bloodletting, purges, and emetics were “almost totally ineffectual, indeed positively deleterious,” except in so far as they mobilised the placebo effect. Yet even as late as 1875, the medical historian W Mitchell Clarke noted that colleagues looked forward to a time when they might “employ” their lancets again.
In the second phase of his book, Wootton stresses the brilliance of a few pioneers (Vesalius the anatomist, Leeuwenhoek the microscopist, and Schwann the microbiologist) who experienced frustrating indifference from a medical world that was stagnantly comfortable. Instead, mainstream medical science focused on comparative physiology, often developed by increasingly cruel and pointless vivisection. In particular, Wootton argues, the possible benefits of simple microscopy were shamefully ignored, leading to an unnecessary 150 year delay in the development of germ theory (and the loss of countless lives).
It was only in 1865, in Glasgow, when Joseph Lister (Wootton's pre-eminent hero in this tale) discovered what he called “the germ theory of putrefaction” and the striking benefits of antiseptic surgery, that “modern medical science began.” Wootton's consideration of this era brilliantly revises previous versions of medical history that have been underpinned by a baton passing concept of medical progress, routinely placing Pasteur before Lister. Wootton sees it the other way round and argues that it was only because of Lister's multidisciplinary interests that he was able to connect disparate discoveries (especially Schwann's crucial experiment of 1837 demonstrating that heat could prevent putrefaction).putrefaction).Wootton also covers other key areas—John Snow's brilliant epidemiological work in Broad Street, the somewhat sluggish development of penicillin, and Doll and Bradford Hill's discovery of the interrelationship of smoking and lung cancer. This latter endeavour gets Wootton's full commendation. For once he has a good word to say, not just about exceptional doctors, but about the profession as a whole and so ends his fascinating journey with a message of hope that the institution of medicine, though ancient, can facilitate progress.
Having been thoroughly impressed by this book's arguments, I began to wonder—what are we, as doctors, doing to ensure that our profession remains the vehicle of progress and not its obstacle? One concern must be that medical history is not routinely taught in medical schools. It is a well understood maxim, that to discover where you want to go, you need to know where you are. To truly know where you are, I would argue, you need to understand how you got there. Wootton's book should be standard issue for every first year medic.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 11, 2022 0:55:19 GMT
Modern Medical Research The History of Modern Medicine Part 1 of 2. If anyone asks, I'll also post Part 2 and/or another article with tips for researching information, especially concerning health issues, just name the one(s) you want to see.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 11, 2022 3:13:38 GMT
Yeah, post some more stuff. That is what this thread is for, Spud m8.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 11, 2022 4:14:31 GMT
OK, thanks m8. Modern Medical Research Part 2Tips For Health Research online (In the "Tips", DuckDuckGo and Brave are mentioned. I'd add Start Page to that. I use DDG.) Why not use Google? Glad you asked. HERE'S why.
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Post by jonrock on Jul 11, 2022 11:07:39 GMT
OK, thanks m8. Modern Medical Research Part 2Tips For Health Research online (In the "Tips", DuckDuckGo and Brave are mentioned. I'd add Start Page to that. I use DDG.) Why not use Google? Glad you asked. HERE'S why. I use the Tor web browser. As for email, prontonmail is highly recommended.
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