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Post by Mr. Pierini Fitness on Jan 2, 2022 5:21:13 GMT
To prevent bone density problems, we elders should frequently lift and carry moderately heavy objects . Paging Large Marge. Uncle Gruntbrain wants to do some strength training and lift heavy.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 2, 2022 6:00:07 GMT
That's heavy! Do you do Bud Jeffries' style swings with it? Ha! No way! His heavy swings are big-arc-beastly-dynamic. If I did that, it would toss me into the next county. I don't use it every day, but when I do use it, I pick it up by the handle and move it up and down, at times using it to apply tension in similar way to bent over rows, etc, and swing it in a very short arc and in a circular motion as viewed from the side while pumping up and down by squatting, keeping knees unlocked throughout. The circular swinging is usually about 20 to 50 count. Once I pick it up, I don't put it down until done (goal is to be "pleasantly fatigued"). It doesn't take long because I avoid discomfort. I've been doing this about once per week, but am gradually trying to increase to about every other day. If I do too much, I get some achy DOMs, so I try to avoid that. I should also mention that I always use two hand grip. It is my "DL" tool and picking it up from between my legs makes it a more natural, ergonomic lift than a barbell, which I never use. This is why I call it my "Health Lift" tool. Due to its girth, I must be in a sumo-type squat when its between my legs. Also, it is important to me to follow using it with a hang.
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Post by stuke on Jan 2, 2022 14:10:43 GMT
The heaviest exercise/lifting tool that I have is my DIY KB-like tool that is pictured in the Isotonics section of Grunt & Shen's. It weighs 110# with the 10# plastic covered plate that sits atop the wheel weights (@ 50# each), captured by the handle/assembly ropes. That is awesome!
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 2, 2022 15:18:50 GMT
The plastic 10# wt plate is not shown in this picture. When I first made it, I used a straight piece of PVC pipe for the handle which was inexpensive, but it made gripping uncomfortable. So, I shelled out about $8 (at the time) for a 1" ID plastic "Carlon" heavy wall electrical conduit elbow. I cut some off of each end to make the ends fit better over the lug/stud holes and chamfered the openings - all to keep abrasion of the rope to a minimum while still giving plenty of grip area and making the grip much more comfortable and ergonomic. It helped a lot. It's a pleasure to use.
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Post by stuke on Jan 2, 2022 23:28:08 GMT
As I get older, 8 know perfectly well that straightforward, linear progreasive overload is not possible, or at the very least is limited. If I want to be bigger and stronger at 48 than I was at 25 I will have to lift heavier. It's just not happening in many exercises, and to get close to those poundages causes other worrying signs, eg triggers my costochonditris or gives mecpressure headaches, twinges etc. I know it is important to keep hold of your strength as late in life as possible, but really, how much do we need? For example, I can still knock out a very clean set of 6 plus in chin ups with 50 po8nds around my waist, but surely it is more than enough to work with hust bodyweight and maybe multiple sets of 10. Do I really need to be able to squat with 265 pounds on my shoulders, or can I use 100 pounds but train smart with supersets, pauses short rests - whatever? The point is, I never really needed the level of strength I had to help me in life, 7nless for showing off hahaha, but really, for bine density, good, helful, functiinal strength, it seems more than enough to be able to use much less weight and train safer. I pretty much gave up the 'heavy' barbell stuff because I feel it was doing unneccessary damage to my joints, and switched over to primarily maces and clubs, with some kettlebell, Bullworker, power twister, and moderate dumbbell work here and there. I also play around with resistance bands and when the weather's nice I set up the 'Battling Ropes' outside and also carry my Titan Fitness Husafell Stone replica around the yard. If the 'heavy' bug bites I do single arm deadlifts with a loading pin and ring handle or I might set up my trap bar, but it's been awhile since doing that. In all honesty I might not be able to bench or overhead press what I used to, but for everything else out in the 'real world' that requires some 'oomph' behind it I think I might be even stronger than I used to be (?)... One things for sure, my elbows and shoulders don't ache all the time like they used to, and I don't have an issue with Carpal tunnel syndrome anymore either. Magnus, I am pretty new to the mace, have you got any pointers or any links that can help with exercise selection?
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Post by Magnus on Jan 3, 2022 3:13:57 GMT
I pretty much gave up the 'heavy' barbell stuff because I feel it was doing unneccessary damage to my joints, and switched over to primarily maces and club.... Magnus, I am pretty new to the mace, have you got any pointers or any links that can help with exercise selection? This is the exact video I watched that first got me interested in the mace, and then I rewatched a few times for instruction...
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Post by Magnus on Jan 3, 2022 3:16:44 GMT
***I still only stick with very basic exercises with the mace, I personally don't feel the need to do all the other 'flow' stuff, but to each his/her own
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 3, 2022 11:20:32 GMT
***I still only stick with very basic exercises with the mace,..... Me too. The 360 and the 10-2. I remember this video. The tip that helped me the most was that the path of the hands is nearly a straight line, in line with the body - push up, pull down. Rik mentions that in this video, but without emphasis. Don't try to follow the mace around with your hands.
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Post by Magnus on Jan 3, 2022 12:10:51 GMT
***I still only stick with very basic exercises with the mace,..... Me too. The 360 and the 10-2. I remember this video. The tip that helped me the most was that the path of the hands is nearly a straight line, in line with the body - push up, pull down. Rik mentions that in this video, but without emphasis. Don't try to follow the mace around with your hands. I do the same 2 exercises plus some lever bar work with the maces, that’s about the extent of it.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 3, 2022 13:27:36 GMT
I want to make a real gada using light weight handle material (bamboo, rattan). i might try using PVC pipe for a handle too. The dynamics of swinging this type of traditional gada with light weight handle are quite different than swinging those "steel bell" types. The ones I have made all use 3/4" black pipe and fittings on the handles. I'm looking forward to the favorable change in dynamics. I'll do it like this, but using a plastic container for the concrete mold:
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 3, 2022 15:36:06 GMT
Here's an interesting video Paul Taras Wolkinowski took in Varanasi India of swinging a mace/gada with one hand:
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Post by stuke on Jan 3, 2022 20:32:01 GMT
Magnus, I am pretty new to the mace, have you got any pointers or any links that can help with exercise selection? This is the exact video I watched that first got me interested in the mace, and then I rewatched a few times for instruction... Great, thank you.
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Post by eudaimonia on Jan 3, 2022 20:47:13 GMT
Farmer's Carry is undervalued but reaps lots of benefits. Besides, how much strength do you really need anyways to get nookie or look decent in clothes?
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Post by brothersteve on Jan 3, 2022 22:02:10 GMT
Maybe it's a lower T level, but I don't care for 'off the charts strength' anymore. My days of pursuing a 500 lbs bench were over when I suffered a minor pec tear 17 years ago. I just want to be maintain what I have and feel good all the time. If I can increase it a little, then great.
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Post by stuke on Jan 3, 2022 22:29:23 GMT
Maybe it's a lower T level, but I don't care for 'off the charts strength' anymore. My days of pursuing a 500 lbs bench were over when I suffered a minor pec tear 17 years ago. I just want to be maintain what I have and feel good all the time. If I can increase it a little, then great. This is more or less how I feel.
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