pierinifitness
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 20, 2021 17:04:25 GMT
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 21, 2021 2:23:54 GMT
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Post by macky on Jun 21, 2021 5:31:36 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2021 9:35:55 GMT
Leaving a light footprint on the Earth is considerate and I'm for that, but there is nothing unusual about the approximately 30 year climate change cycle that will happen in spite of us. That's the way the Earth works. We haven't and won't change that. The doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere that has occurred during the "industrial revolution" from 0.02% to 0.04% does little except to boost plant growth. The more important problem is to reduce toxic chemicals in the air so that we don't breathe them and kill ourselves. The ocean isn't rising. Glaciers melt and freeze normally in very slow cycles. Further re-search of Evidence Based Climate Science check out Dr William Happer, Dr Willie Soon, Dr Don Easterbrook.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2021 10:18:22 GMT
THIS is the video I watched (on youtube at the time) that was my introduction to the facts about climate change. Dr Don Easterbrook, March, 2013. There's a truly dense guy on the panel that brings up the same objections at least three times and it is amusing how patient Dr Easterbrook is with his indoctrinated ignorance. At some point in that video, Dr Easterbrook mentions the researchers in Norway. I believe those are the ones who I saw on youtube many years ago and now cannot find who motivated me to do more research into climate change science. They provided the info on the relationship between atmospheric CO2 content and global warming that Al Gore then twisted up to be misrepresented in his "Inconvenient Truth" movie which showed the opposite of their findings. Throughout discernible history, an increase in CO2 follows a rise in temperature, not vice-versa.
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 21, 2021 12:42:41 GMT
"The ocean isn't rising." - It's just all the plastic bottles and other garbage the humans have dumped into it that makes the water level rise.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2021 15:14:22 GMT
"The ocean isn't rising." - It's just all the plastic bottles and other garbage the humans have dumped into it that makes the water level rise. I think he would call that a "local problem". Would you estimate that all of the boats, ships, tankers, excursion, rigs, platforms and other man made objects that men have been displacing water (forever) have raised water levels around the world less than have the plastic bottle, etc, waste off the coast of a few cities in China?
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 21, 2021 15:21:16 GMT
And, according to AOC, "Construction of highways can have a disproportionate impact on communities of color, from displacement and pollution, and high-speed rail actually connects these communities to greater economic and housing opportunities,"
I'll be thinking about this deeply when I take my one-hour drive to Phoenix later this week, enjoying the great freeways Arizona has.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2021 15:21:36 GMT
If a person will do some research, he will find that there are private groups that are using ingenious professional equipment to pick and suck waste out of the oceans.
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Post by macky on Jun 22, 2021 3:36:13 GMT
...and there are also "private" groups that promote climate change denial because measures to combat that, interfering with their revenue streams.
Remember Trump rolled back 18 positive moves by the previous administration as I posted some time ago.
And as far as "30 year cycle goes" NASA takes their climate change figures and analysis right from the Industrial Revolution, AND I will rely more on people who have a history of living near NZ glaciers for 60 years.
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 22, 2021 11:07:20 GMT
"The ocean isn't rising." - It's just all the plastic bottles and other garbage the humans have dumped into it that makes the water level rise. I think he would call that a "local problem". Would you estimate that all of the boats, ships, tankers, excursion, rigs, platforms and other man made objects that men have been displacing water (forever) have raised water levels around the world less than have the plastic bottle, etc, waste off the coast of a few cities in China? I was being facetious and probably shouldn't have as it's a serious issue, my bad.....although there is this: A million plastic bottles are bought around the world every minute and the number will jump another 20% by 2021, creating an environmental crisis some campaigners predict will be as serious as climate change.....https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/28/a-million-a-minute-worlds-plastic-bottle-binge-as-dangerous-as-climate-change "If a person will do some research, he will find that there are private groups that are using ingenious professional equipment to pick and suck waste out of the oceans." Very true, but there is far too much waste that has accumulated over the last 120 years to be effective yet.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 22, 2021 15:05:45 GMT
As Dr Don Easterbrook explains quite well in the video I posted, climate change is very real and normal. He also explains clearly that, although NASA started with the original data as Dr Easterbrook presents in that video, NASA has "adjusted" the numbers every so often as it serves the climate fright narrative which is used as an excuse for more draconian measures against the people. Anything will be used to feed the fear and restrict your liberty.
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Post by denis on Jun 22, 2021 16:03:47 GMT
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Post by macky on Jun 22, 2021 19:46:28 GMT
As Dr Don Easterbrook explains quite well in the video I posted, climate change is very real and normal. He also explains clearly that, although NASA started with the original data as Dr Easterbrook presents in that video, NASA has "adjusted" the numbers every so often as it serves the climate fright narrative which is used as an excuse for more draconian measures against the people. Anything will be used to feed the fear and restrict your liberty. I will agree with the possibility of draconian measures based on fear and restrictions. Possibility. But I cannot see the reasoning behind allowing climate change warming to continue if it's going to ruin the very world that the PTB want to control. If the PTB want an "ideal" world where they have culled much of the global population and now utterly control the rest, why continue to change the world in a way that is not conducive to the present forms of life, including humans ? Unless it's for another lifeform.................. I also believe that as more knowledge of the interactions of climate change come to light, NASA may adjust their previous figures which were proven to be inaccurate. That's not unknown in science.
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 22, 2021 20:36:57 GMT
As Dr Don Easterbrook explains quite well in the video I posted, climate change is very real and normal. He also explains clearly that, although NASA started with the original data as Dr Easterbrook presents in that video, NASA has "adjusted" the numbers every so often as it serves the climate fright narrative which is used as an excuse for more draconian measures against the people. Anything will be used to feed the fear and restrict your liberty. I will agree with the possibility of draconian measures based on fear and restrictions. Possibility. But I cannot see the reasoning behind allowing climate change warming to continue if it's going to ruin the very world that the PTB want to control. If the PTB want an "ideal" world where they have culled much of the global population and now utterly control the rest, why continue to change the world in a way that is not conducive to the present forms of life, including humans ? Unless it's for another lifeform.................. I also believe that as more knowledge of the interactions of climate change come to light, NASA may adjust their previous figures which were proven to be inaccurate. That's not unknown in science. Maybe the PTB are the other life forms.
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