pierinifitness
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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 12, 2020 19:02:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 6:36:49 GMT
Yeah that is impressive. Imagine how easy he’d crank them out if he gets lean.
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Post by macky on Jul 13, 2020 7:04:13 GMT
He done very well.
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Post by moxohol on Jul 13, 2020 13:02:30 GMT
Functional strength at its finest.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 13, 2020 13:26:21 GMT
If there is functional strength, there is also dysfunctional strength? What would that be? What strength has no useful function?
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Post by jrmeatplow on Jul 13, 2020 13:28:03 GMT
that guy has way more muscle than one can clearly see. Look at his back, he's stout.
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Post by moxohol on Jul 13, 2020 19:38:33 GMT
If there is functional strength, there is also dysfunctional strength? What would that be? What strength has no useful function? Applied strength which directly affects & engages muscle torque, proprioception & agility. Specific Adaptions to Imposed Demands. U can't get much more functional then with pull ups as the crossover is great. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 13, 2020 21:01:13 GMT
Strength - you have it or you don't. .... and it's all functional because it moves your body and holds your skeleton together. The word pairing of "functional strength" is redundant.
It would be like calling an oak tree a "wooden oak tree".
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Post by Magnus on Jul 13, 2020 23:25:24 GMT
Strength - you have it or you don't. .... and it's all functional because it moves your body and holds your skeleton together. The word pairing of "functional strength" is redundant. It would be like calling an oak tree a "wooden oak tree". Years ago when I began going to trade school I worked as a laborer for a tree service on my days off and after school whenever they needed me. When I first started working there I could Bench Press over 400 pounds, and most of my other lifts were on par, I don't remember exact poundage's but I could overhead press, row and curl a good amount of weight... However, when it came to "functional strength" on the job, let's just say that I was nowhere near the strongest guy on the tree service crew when it came to doing tree work, the gym weights had minimal 'carryover', thus were less "functional". It was only after working there for a period of time that I began getting stronger in the specific tasks I did on the job. In 'Rock, Iron, Steel' Steve Justa tells the story about when he worked for a 'custom' hay bailer, and how all the prior weightlifting he had done didn't seem to help him in his new job one bit. I think it was in the 'Aerobic Isometrics' chapter (?)... |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 14, 2020 0:21:35 GMT
Strength - you have it or you don't. .... and it's all functional because it moves your body and holds your skeleton together. The word pairing of "functional strength" is redundant. It would be like calling an oak tree a "wooden oak tree". Years ago when I began going to trade school I worked as a laborer for a tree service on my days off and after school whenever they needed me. When I first started working there I could Bench Press over 400 pounds, and most of my other lifts were on par, I don't remember exact poundage's but I could overhead press, row and curl a good amount of weight... However, when it came to "functional strength" on the job, let's just say that I was nowhere near the strongest guy on the tree service crew when it came to doing tree work, the gym weights had minimal 'carryover', thus were less "functional". It was only after working there for a period of time that I began getting stronger in the specific tasks I did on the job. In 'Rock, Iron, Steel' Steve Justa tells the story about when he worked for a 'custom' hay bailer, and how all the prior weightlifting he had done didn't seem to help him in his new job one bit. I think it was in the 'Aerobic Isometrics' chapter (?)... ("functional strength" on the job .....) Yes, I get that. Repetitive physical work becomes as much about technique as strength. So, are we saying that this guy has a knack for more pull-ups than one would expect? That's his speciality? He could get a job as a chain hoist sky-hook raiser. Cool. |
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Post by Michael on Jul 14, 2020 0:43:30 GMT
All strength is functional. Functional is just a word they add just to sell people on an idea. Different people can have more strength in different tasks. Magnus, You could be stronger at picking something up off the ground whereas maybe I'd be stronger at dragging something. The same with different kinds of endurance tasks. From my own experience, most exercise if done reasonably will carry over to a physical job much more than doing nothing at all.
It may feel like there is no carryover because You've never done the job before. You said," began getting stronger in the specific tasks I did on the job". Once that happens You don't get any stronger from the job, You may just build work capacity and toughen up. I've seen all different types of people do tree work. Most of the guys that had no strength training background did not last.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 14, 2020 1:03:28 GMT
....... You don't get any stronger from the job, .... That was the reason I began to strength exercise before work every day when I was already doing a physically demanding job. My movements became progressively more fluidly choreographed and the resistances I experienced didn't increase. |
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Post by Magnus on Jul 14, 2020 1:32:53 GMT
Years ago when I began going to trade school I worked as a laborer for a tree service on my days off and after school whenever they needed me. When I first started working there I could Bench Press over 400 pounds, and most of my other lifts were on par, I don't remember exact poundage's but I could overhead press, row and curl a good amount of weight... However, when it came to "functional strength" on the job, let's just say that I was nowhere near the strongest guy on the tree service crew when it came to doing tree work, the gym weights had minimal 'carryover', thus were less "functional". It was only after working there for a period of time that I began getting stronger in the specific tasks I did on the job. In 'Rock, Iron, Steel' Steve Justa tells the story about when he worked for a 'custom' hay bailer, and how all the prior weightlifting he had done didn't seem to help him in his new job one bit. I think it was in the 'Aerobic Isometrics' chapter (?)... ("functional strength" on the job .....) Yes, I get that. Repetitive physical work becomes as much about technique as strength. No, technique had nothing to do with it. The guys I worked with would have impromptu strength contests during breaks. These 'contests' involved various 'stunts' that required incredible amounts of pure raw strength. And they were BEASTS !  Also, I was working in Brooklyn NY for the most part, and the big removals we did in the Brownstone type houses had no access into the yards, so you had to go up and down flights of stairs carrying everything out into the street. All the heavy squatting I'd done prior had almost zero 'carryover', I would have been much better off building up my FUNCTIONAL strength by doing weighted 'step-ups' instead... |
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Post by Magnus on Jul 14, 2020 1:45:44 GMT
All strength is functional. Functional is just a word they add just to sell people on an idea. Different people can have more strength in different tasks. Magnus, You could be stronger at picking something up off the ground whereas maybe I'd be stronger at dragging something. The same with different kinds of endurance tasks. From my own experience, most exercise if done reasonably will carry over to a physical job much more than doing nothing at all. It may feel like there is no carryover because You've never done the job before. You said," began getting stronger in the specific tasks I did on the job". Once that happens You don't get any stronger from the job, You may just build work capacity and toughen up. I've seen all different types of people do tree work. Most of the guys that had no strength training background did not last. I respectfully disagree, as a matter of fact, when working for the tree service I gave up the weights for awhile because I just didn't have the energy to do both. Months later, after steadily doing heavy tree work I weighed myself and I was up a good few pounds, yet my waist size had decreased !... ...and contrary to your experience, when I did tree work in the early to mid 1980's there wasn't one person that I remember working with that had ever worked out in a gym. The guys I worked with were mostly French Canadian's and American Indian's from Canada and far upstate NY, these guys all smoked cigarette's and drank themselves silly after work, training in a gym was probably the furthest thing from their minds...  |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 14, 2020 2:24:00 GMT
Still waiting on an answer:
(i.e.: non-functional strength ..... it's there, but it doesn't function)
Certainly, when you're strong enough to do a type of work, being strong enough is functional in that context. That doesn't change the fact that all strength is functional, although it may not be sufficient for a particular task, it's there, it works, it's strength and it functions.
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