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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 14, 2020 23:38:06 GMT
Back to the KSHD question :
Use a heart rate monitor to gauge your efforts . Try performing "heavy" breathing squats as long as you can tolerate then immediately switch to other compound visualized resistance exercises again as long as you dare including switching back to the squats . That said I only attempted such efforts a few times . Given my elevated heart rate, the lengthy non-stop sessions suggested conditioning potential . But I didn't enjoy them; they were too tough ( mentally and physically) .
Too bad Royce, the visualized resistance master, no longer posts here . His tortuous sessions left him completely exhausted.
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Post by Michael on Jul 15, 2020 0:10:48 GMT
Whenever I did self-resistance or KSHD I always combined calisthenics with them. I know Gruntbrain is talking about weighted breathing squats which is a good idea. You could do a set of pushups, bodyweight squats, jumping jacks, mountain climbers, etc.. in between sets of KSHD. I have done plenty of this in the past and it gave me plenty of endurance. Also, if You're only interested in doing KSHD just do Your exercises in a circuit non-stop with enough tension to get Your heart rate up. This method is a little bit harder to get Your heart rate up and would take more experience. That guy Royce I believe had a better experience with KSHD alone. I think his posts are on another forum but I'm not sure which.
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Post by MBS on Jul 15, 2020 1:05:33 GMT
Ahhh, the mysterious Royce..😂.
A very entertaining guy.
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Post by zenqsavant on Jul 15, 2020 2:18:08 GMT
Great insight...iv never done KSHD alone long enough or had to exhaust myself during those training periods to verify the stamina benefiets..
Royce seemed to have mostly focused on max tension kshd..but I remember he was very adamant on thier strength benefiets.
Bruce seems to be well versed in the pros and cons..I have to say almost any past practicinor of solo tension excercise has a certain amount of body fat..which would at the surface confirm the lack of calorie or fat burning.
But logically and physiologicaly as you all stated. Performing them as full body or circuits..would create a aerobic effect
Lastly its just insightful to talk about..as it doees feel really good to do..maybe thats all that really matters.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 15, 2020 4:27:40 GMT
Carrying excess body weight and bodyfat is more the result of eating more calories than burned rather than exercises done. Eat at a slight deficit and do KHSD over the long haul and you’ll eventually become leaner and chiseled.
The only thing other exercises may do is up the daily calories burned, thus allowing more calories to consume. At the end of the day, a calories deficit or surplus is what gets weight gain, loss or maintenance achieved.
Therefore, fleshy KHSD practitioners are merely eating too much day in and day out.
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Post by moxohol on Jul 15, 2020 10:37:18 GMT
Great insight...iv never done KSHD alone long enough or had to exhaust myself during those training periods to verify the stamina benefiets.. Royce seemed to have mostly focused on max tension kshd..but I remember he was very adamant on thier strength benefiets. Bruce seems to be well versed in the pros and cons..I have to say almost any past practicinor of solo tension excercise has a certain amount of body fat..which would at the surface confirm the lack of calorie or fat burning. But logically and physiologicaly as you all stated. Performing them as full body or circuits..would create a aerobic effect Lastly its just insightful to talk about..as it doees feel really good to do..maybe thats all that really matters. Try OMAD, Warrior Diet or Fast 5 which are daily restricted eating windows. It's also suggested that u eat legumes as ur 1st dish because they're slow carbs & maintain steadier blood sugar throughout the day. Abs are made in the kitchen. Muscles are made in the gym. |
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Post by moxohol on Jul 15, 2020 10:46:37 GMT
Well I'm not a Rocky Marciano but like him, my cardiovascular-respiratory training leads the pack in my fitness pursuits. What I've learned is that, just like a runner, it's good to mix and match this training. Runners, for example, will do long and slow runs, intervals and speed work. This, of course, depends on the runner's distance events. The long and slow runs build a solid base from which the faster workouts are done with good results. I think the same is true for other cardiovascular-conditioning training workouts. For example, burpees are one of my staple workouts and I have a goal of completing 100 burpees in a certain time. My long and slow workouts are doing, for example, 5 burpees every minute on the minute and then walking for the remaining time interval. I've done this workout for as long as 60 minutes. Doing other versions with medium duration and higher intensity are also done. Finally, I've done a Tabata and Sprint 8 version of a burpees workout, again, much like how a runner approaches his training. In fact, I got my idea to train this way after reflecting about how runners train and from my own training experiences with running and preparing for fun runs, like a 10k run. Even though, someone may not need to go an hour in a fight, training to build a base actually helps the shorter duration encounters than might come up. Of course, speed work is necessary to simulate a real encounter. My two cents and I'm sticking to it. Postscript: With regard to the SHSD question, it'll help with your conditioning about the same amount as chewing gun. I follow ur writings with keen interest because they match my needs & age group. I lift various concepts of ur training for my own use. This is because ur on to something good I can USE. I usually quibble about the execution not the premise behind it. I am really a K.I.S.S. type of guy. So, I tend to scale it down to rudiments. |
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 15, 2020 13:06:39 GMT
KSHD can be used safely to work joint mobility with full range of motion . As such they can function as a warm-up for your "real" workout . They can also be conveniently used throughout the day to perform micro workouts in an otherwise sedentary day.
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Post by MBS on Jul 15, 2020 13:53:44 GMT
Carrying excess body weight and bodyfat is more the result of eating more calories than burned rather than exercises done. Eat at a slight deficit and do KHSD over the long haul and you’ll eventually become leaner and chiseled. The only thing other exercises may do is up the daily calories burned, thus allowing more calories to consume. At the end of the day, a calories deficit or surplus is what gets weight gain, loss or maintenance achieved. Therefore, fleshy KHSD practitioners are merely eating too much day in and day out. When it comes to losing body fat, and keeping it off, pierini is one I’d listen to. |
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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 15, 2020 15:02:59 GMT
Well I'm not a Rocky Marciano but like him, my cardiovascular-respiratory training leads the pack in my fitness pursuits. What I've learned is that, just like a runner, it's good to mix and match this training. Runners, for example, will do long and slow runs, intervals and speed work. This, of course, depends on the runner's distance events. The long and slow runs build a solid base from which the faster workouts are done with good results. I think the same is true for other cardiovascular-conditioning training workouts. For example, burpees are one of my staple workouts and I have a goal of completing 100 burpees in a certain time. My long and slow workouts are doing, for example, 5 burpees every minute on the minute and then walking for the remaining time interval. I've done this workout for as long as 60 minutes. Doing other versions with medium duration and higher intensity are also done. Finally, I've done a Tabata and Sprint 8 version of a burpees workout, again, much like how a runner approaches his training. In fact, I got my idea to train this way after reflecting about how runners train and from my own training experiences with running and preparing for fun runs, like a 10k run. Even though, someone may not need to go an hour in a fight, training to build a base actually helps the shorter duration encounters than might come up. Of course, speed work is necessary to simulate a real encounter. My two cents and I'm sticking to it. Postscript: With regard to the SHSD question, it'll help with your conditioning about the same amount as chewing gun. I follow ur writings with keen interest because they match my needs & age group. I lift various concepts of ur training for my own use. This is because ur on to something good I can USE. I usually quibble about the execution not the premise behind it. I am really a K.I.S.S. type of guy. So, I tend to scale it down to rudiments. Well thank you, I try and have a long history of sharing on the discussion forums. The untrained eye may think I'm showing off or bragging but those who know me well know that I genuinely share my personal training experiences, laden with detail because I'm an analytical guy, for the benefit of other middle-age men. Maybe I inspire them a time or two and that's great if I do. |
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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 15, 2020 15:05:54 GMT
Carrying excess body weight and bodyfat is more the result of eating more calories than burned rather than exercises done. Eat at a slight deficit and do KHSD over the long haul and you’ll eventually become leaner and chiseled. The only thing other exercises may do is up the daily calories burned, thus allowing more calories to consume. At the end of the day, a calories deficit or surplus is what gets weight gain, loss or maintenance achieved. Therefore, fleshy KHSD practitioners are merely eating too much day in and day out. When it comes to losing body fat, and keeping it off, pierini is one I’d listen to. Well thank you. It was my last go-around a few years ago when I fell off my plan and got fleshy and had to report to Pierini Fitness boot camp on August 31, 2018 with Pierini Fitness as my drill sergeant. I had to work my ass off to reclaim my leanness and upper-percentile cardiovascular conditioning. It was hard work that I don't want to ever repeat again so I watch my current status like a hawk sitting high on a power line looking for road kill below. I'm going to be lean and light in my casket and my pall bearers will love me. No brag, just promise and fact. As Jeff Cavaliere said and it stuck with me, "be light, lean and strong" - that's my guiding fitness mantra at this chapter of my life. |
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Post by moxohol on Jul 15, 2020 15:25:05 GMT
I follow ur writings with keen interest because they match my needs & age group. I lift various concepts of ur training for my own use. This is because ur on to something good I can USE. I usually quibble about the execution not the premise behind it. I am really a K.I.S.S. type of guy. So, I tend to scale it down to rudiments. Well thank you, I try and have a long history of sharing on the discussion forums. The untrained eye may think I'm showing off or bragging but those who know me well know that I genuinely share my personal training experiences, laden with detail because I'm an analytical guy, for the benefit of other middle-age men. Maybe I inspire them a time or two and that's great if I do.  You have great concepts & insight. Ur right up there with Macky & Michael (the M&M Twins). I whittled it all down to a personal mix & match menu plan which is utterly mundane & boring. If u saw it, you'd be unimpressed. |
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jul 15, 2020 21:54:04 GMT
Royce seemed to have mostly focused on max tension kshd..but I remember he was very adamant on thier strength benefiets. I always questioned Royce's strength claims. By virtue of building muscle with KSHD, I suppose you'd be bound to gain some strength in the process, but I doubt it would be to the extent Royce spoke of. As far as I know, strength training with weights, strengthening the tendons, is the only way to build great strength. Unfortunately, when I got into it for such a long time, I was totally wrapped up in the Zen/meditative aspect, and size and strength were irrelevant to me. I never tested my strength before, during, or after. When I did return to weight lifting, I'm certain that I was stronger than I would have been had I done nothing. |
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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 15, 2020 22:30:36 GMT
Royce seemed to have mostly focused on max tension kshd..but I remember he was very adamant on thier strength benefiets. I always questioned Royce's strength claims. By virtue of building muscle with KSHD, I suppose you'd be bound to gain some strength in the process, but I doubt it would be to the extent Royce spoke of. As far as I know, strength training with weights, strengthening the tendons, is the only way to build great strength. Unfortunately, when I got into it for such a long time, I was totally wrapped up in the Zen/meditative aspect, and size and strength were irrelevant to me. I never tested my strength before, during, or after. When I did return to weight lifting, I'm certain that I was stronger than I would have been had I done nothing. The most obvious result of training without using heavy weights is how heavy they feel once you try. Recent case in point for me was resuming weighted pull-ups about one month ago. I did a lot of weighted pull-up work last summer and made nice progress. While I continued doing pull-ups once I slacked off doing weighted pull-ups, it wasn't the same. When I first tried doing weighted pull-ups recently, I was flabbergasted how heavy the weight seemed. It took me about a month until I was able to be close to where I was last year. It does come back quick though assuming that you've trained all along. Royce's posts did make me scratch my head a couple times. While nobody who boasts about this or that in their feats accomplished has any duty to us - a bunch of internet strangers - to post photographic evidence that aligns with their claims, doing so adds a bit of credibility and believability to the claim. I hope he's doing well. He added to my broad vocabulary when I learned the word "poppycock" from one of his posts. |
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 15, 2020 22:44:57 GMT
I cleared some cobwebs and recalled that Royce performed standing alternating visualized resistance knee lifts for several minutes for an endurance focused workout . Again, my few attempts at such workouts doesn't qualify me to rigorously judge them .
I suspect it would be difficult for most of us to complete Royce's HIT workouts that result in extreme exhaustion . Hats off to him for evidently thriving on them.
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