brothersteve
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 14, 2023 15:55:15 GMT
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 14, 2023 16:04:08 GMT
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Post by teacup on Mar 14, 2023 18:25:54 GMT
Thanks for posting the links Brothersteve đź‘Ť
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Post by walker on Mar 14, 2023 19:59:47 GMT
@ walker……Which is why you bought it in the first place. Use the Isokinator first and end with a callisthenics session… Hi, I bought it because it’s joint friendly and you can measure your progress. I switched from 3x10 to 1x14 (HIT) and then to a yielding isometric hold for 60 seconds.
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Post by jonrock on Mar 16, 2023 12:02:55 GMT
This article is a fantastic summary of isometrics, falls in line with Enamit/Zass' views and is practical and direct.
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 16, 2023 12:51:01 GMT
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Post by teacup on Mar 16, 2023 18:51:31 GMT
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Mar 17, 2023 5:54:51 GMT
Really? I have owned pretty much all of the well known isometrics books from the 1960's and 1970's including those that he shows in the article but I don't recall any of them making outlandish claims. Not even the kind of claims made in fitness infomercials and magazine ads that you might see these days. Do these really look like the covers of books that are promising you superhuman strength?
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 17, 2023 17:43:47 GMT
True, none say a trainee will be able to lift or move a certain amount, but they do infer the 'approximate 5% per week' and peoples imaginations take over thinking they can do that indefinitely. The Dynaflex ads and course say it will make you stronger and does promise some size increases and the Body Tone ads and course make claims you will be both bigger and stronger. Was the Atlas course isometrics in the conventional sense? Not totally. It was a mix of cals, self resistance, dvr and isometrics via self resistance. Even FRY says in one of his books that his exercises were very potent and that he had a guy train on them to where the guy entered a bodybuilding contest and placed, which I think was in the 60's. Was it true, probably not. Did FRY invent Dynaflex? JeP and others said so, but I'm not sure, and no ones knows who did for sure. Back in the day, isometrics was simply defined as pushing or pulling against an immoveable object for 6 seconds or so. Yielding and overcoming were terms that came up more recently. What I found interesting was he brought up the notion iso's were touted to be a space age way to build size and strength with little time and effort. NASA said the astronauts used iso's which helped reinforce the notion. In the new nuclear age of the early 50's, after the Physiology of Strength came out, incredible marvelous advances were coming out and this was one of them. There were many contraptions and books made and sold over the years to do them. I do agree with him on the Bullworker, which is also a reason I posted this. It is a great piece of equipment. Personally, I like them a lot. I do feel I am much stronger, pound for pound, for having done them and that the development I gained from them is way better than if I never did them at all. I don't believe they will make a bodybuilder physique, nor will they make you a weightlifting champ, but if used with other methods will be beneficial.
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Post by teacup on Mar 17, 2023 18:47:02 GMT
Hi Brothersteve,
If you are feeling stronger from them then that’s a good job done!
Improvements to the physique, well I find it takes quite a volume of isometrics to gain size but I’m happy with it working for me. Not going to win any trophies, but I look like I do some training.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 17, 2023 20:28:22 GMT
You can always check out Steve Justa, Silverlooks and macky on the subject of isometrics. Those are the three guys I pay most attention to.
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brothersteve
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 17, 2023 21:05:22 GMT
Hi Brothersteve, If you are feeling stronger from them then that’s a good job done! Improvements to the physique, well I find it takes quite a volume of isometrics to gain size but I’m happy with it working for me. Not going to win any trophies, but I look like I do some training. Yeah, the working the whole body for 78 seconds isn't real for the most part. So much can be done with them.
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 17, 2023 21:19:53 GMT
Muscular contractions are electrical pulses firing. It doesn't matter if a contraction occurs from use of weights, bands, tensolators, immovable objects, electrical stimulus, or DVR. My wife is a Workers Comp Claim Manager and injured workers regularly use TENS units for healing therapy and pain relief, they do work.
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Post by teacup on Mar 18, 2023 7:43:40 GMT
Hi Brothersteve,
You are right, the therapeutic benefits of isometrics are very valuable. I was particularly interested in Dr Ziegler’s work using the isotron for medical treatments. The reports from athletes he trained of the muscle contraction intensity they experienced goes to show the capacity far exceeds our deliberate efforts.
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 18, 2023 17:17:14 GMT
Hi Brothersteve, You are right, the therapeutic benefits of isometrics are very valuable. I was particularly interested in Dr Ziegler’s work using the isotron for medical treatments. The reports from athletes he trained of the muscle contraction intensity they experienced goes to show the capacity far exceeds our deliberate efforts.Also, I always wondered what affect EMS training, especially advanced, will have on the central nervous system. Have you checked out the static/max contraction info from Pete Sisco and John Little? The huge weights in the max contracted positions were key.
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