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Post by Magnus on Jun 20, 2020 12:21:45 GMT
This is the actual and unaltered Wendy's security footage. Speed it up to 28:30 for the final confrontation...
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Post by Magnus on Jun 20, 2020 12:33:22 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 20, 2020 12:41:39 GMT
Mags, I did a search here on the foum using several different terms and could not find the one that was originally posted. Do you know where it is? Maybe in a different thread? It was the one with the Wendy's camera view and only a minute or two long, as I recall. If the original actually is different, it's been posted on the internet so it is still out there or been captured by someone. Regardless, it doesn't change my opinion that Rolfe's sentencing seems excessive. He/they made a couple mistakes, but responding the way he did to a deadly weapon remaining in the possession of Brooks after being discharged at them seems appropriate to me. One question I have is, why was it necessary to burn down the Wendy's? How was it Wendy's fault for any of it? That most helpful video would not exist at all if it hadn't been for the Wendy's camera.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 20, 2020 12:52:56 GMT
Mags, I did a search here on the foum using several different terms and could not find the one that was originally posted. Do you know where it is? Maybe in a different thread? It was the one with the Wendy's camera view and only a minute or two long, as I recall. If the original actually is different, it's been posted on the internet so it is still out there or been captured by someone. Regardless, it doesn't change my opinion that Rolfe's sentencing seems excessive. He/they made a couple mistakes, but responding the way he did to a deadly weapon remaining in the possession of Brooks after being discharged at them seems appropriate to me. One question I have is, why was it necessary to burn down the Wendy's? How was it Wendy's fault for any of it? That most helpful video would not exist at all if it hadn't been for the Wendy's camera. I'll look for the video... BTW, Rolfe shouldn't be and won't be sentenced at all, he was fully justified in his actions. As a matter of fact, 'D.A. Dumb-Ass' contradicted himself by saying that the taser wasn't a deadly weapon in this case... D.A. Dumb-Ass Paul Howard is going to be made a fool of once this goes to court
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jun 20, 2020 15:51:07 GMT
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 20, 2020 16:06:01 GMT
The GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) which is Georgia's state police investigative agency is pissed at the Fulton Co. Prosecutor's Office for pressing charges before their investigation of the incident was even finished. Normal procedure in every state is for the state's investigative agency to conduct an investigation of any police involved shooting. The media is also saying that two of the three most likely candidates to be Joe Biden's vice presidential pick are Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms or Stacey Abrams who just had an unsuccessful run as a Democrat for Governor of Georgia in 2018. My how fortuitous it is to manufacture a supposed racially motivated issue in the state of Georgia in a presidential election year.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 20, 2020 18:51:44 GMT
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Post by macky on Jun 20, 2020 21:48:57 GMT
The GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) which is Georgia's state police investigative agency is pissed at the Fulton Co. Prosecutor's Office for pressing charges before their investigation of the incident was even finished. Normal procedure in every state is for the state's investigative agency to conduct an investigation of any police involved shooting. That's ridiculous that charges should be laid even before the police have finished their investigation. "Normal procedure" in this case has not been followed, but then again, what has been "normal" over the last weeks with anything ?
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Post by macky on Jun 20, 2020 22:01:49 GMT
The most important video is the one that will exonerate the officer, and that's the Wendy's security footage. Any reasonable person of sound mind and without an 'agenda' who watches the video would conclude that the officer was fully justified in using deadly force to stop this violent criminal. Do you remember where you saw the particular video that appears to be different than the Wendy's video ?... I've personally watched numerous video's of the incident, and none appeared any different from the other (?) I'm going back through the possible sources of where I viewed the video. I'm sure it was on some news outlet and it should be a simple matter to locate once I'm back on the right track. I am absolutely sure I saw what I've posted as per details, Mags. It was early in the peace and was only a short clip from the last phase of the chase. The clip began with Brooks running and then firing the taser. The clip stopped before showing Brooks going down. In fact, he was out of the picture by the time the officer turned up.
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Post by macky on Jun 21, 2020 4:30:51 GMT
This is the actual and unaltered Wendy's security footage. Speed it up to 28:30 for the final confrontation... I haven't been able to find the video I originally saw, so far. The view I saw was from right of this position and at a slightly lower level. It was darker and I didn't notice the colour of the car, except it was closer, and was more square onto the rear of the car. The flash from the taser was far in excess of this video. Just a few comments on this particular video, where's all the sound ? The whole video has none. And first aid did not seem to be any priority until 30:50 which is a long time to respond. I would be interested to know what one of the officers was treated for at the hospital, as well. Closely watching this video on full screen, the chase at 28:34 shows a bright lit "something" in the pursuing officer's right hand. In the next couple of seconds, he is passing that over to his left hand and drawing his gun at 28:36. Brooks has at that point turned and is running. At 28:37 the officer aims and shortly after Brooks falls to the ground. I believe the lack of sound is a very important missing part of a tragic scene, as it would help to know when the three shots, two of which hit Brooks in the back, were fired. Visuals don't always tell the whole story. At 1:03 the officer is seen chasing Brooks with a taser. 1:06 Brooks has turned and is running away. 1:07 three quick shots (sound, for a change) and Brooks is shot in the back with two of them. It should also be noted that the short video that mikey posted recently and I repeated in the next post was a segment of the larger video which Mags assures us was the actual and unaltered security footage for Wendy's cam. The segment has sound, whereas the larger footage does not. Deliberately or not, it's altered in that respect. As I said, sound is an important consideration in this case. It determines at what point those three shots were fired. The fact that Brooks was hit in the back is also another piece of evidence that he posed no further threat to those officers' safety. In this smaller segment, the video is stopped before shots are heard, as in the other video above.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2020 5:34:58 GMT
Looks like I was wrong? If you pause the two videos above, the top one @ 28:37 and the bottom news report @ 1:06, the difference in light/dark can be seen and the bottom one has the sound that was included in the original post. So, I think the bottom clip that was used on the news is the original one I saw. The top one, I believe, has been "digitally enhanced" which has made it brighter, but the characters and objects appear to me to be in the same positions in both videos.
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Post by macky on Jun 21, 2020 19:49:05 GMT
Brooks apparently was also on probation from a one-year jail term, and a conviction for driving while over the limit which I believe is 80 in numerical terms would have probably seen him back inside. Brooks tested over 100 in a breathalizer check. He was done, and I suppose that's when he decided to try and split when he knew he was being cuffed.
It was stupid because the officers already had his ID and his car, so how long was he going to remain at large before the law eventually caught up with him ? Better to not drink and drive, better to finish his jail term, better to have not tried to scamper. Taking a taser off an officer, he set himself up for resolute counter-action.
So many mistakes.
Too late now.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 21, 2020 22:36:23 GMT
Brooks apparently was also on probation from a one-year jail term, and a conviction for driving while over the limit which I believe is 80 in numerical terms would have probably seen him back inside. Brooks tested over 100 in a breathalizer check. He was done, and I suppose that's when he decided to try and split when he knew he was being cuffed. It was stupid because the officers already had his ID and his car, so how long was he going to remain at large before the law eventually caught up with him ? Better to not drink and drive, better to finish his jail term, better to have not tried to scamper. Taking a taser off an officer, he set himself up for resolute counter-action. So many mistakes. Too late now. Lots of people just never consider those things in the moment. (sigh)
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Post by Magnus on Jun 21, 2020 23:55:44 GMT
Brooks apparently was also on probation from a one-year jail term, and a conviction for driving while over the limit which I believe is 80 in numerical terms would have probably seen him back inside. Brooks tested over 100 in a breathalizer check. He was done, and I suppose that's when he decided to try and split when he knew he was being cuffed. It was stupid because the officers already had his ID and his car, so how long was he going to remain at large before the law eventually caught up with him ? Better to not drink and drive, better to finish his jail term, better to have not tried to scamper. Taking a taser off an officer, he set himself up for resolute counter-action. So many mistakes. Too late now. Lots of people just never consider those things in the moment. (sigh) Yes, Mr. Brooks had a long track record of making very unwise decisions in his life; his latest poor decision unfortunately proved fatal for him. Nobody to blame but himself....
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 22, 2020 0:26:20 GMT
Brooks apparently was also on probation from a one-year jail term, and a conviction for driving while over the limit which I believe is 80 in numerical terms would have probably seen him back inside. Brooks tested over 100 in a breathalizer check. He was done, and I suppose that's when he decided to try and split when he knew he was being cuffed. It was stupid because the officers already had his ID and his car, so how long was he going to remain at large before the law eventually caught up with him ? Better to not drink and drive, better to finish his jail term, better to have not tried to scamper. Taking a taser off an officer, he set himself up for resolute counter-action. So many mistakes. Too late now. Lots of people just never consider those things in the moment. (sigh) Media minded people who are bashing on cops need to understand that, as I see it, Rolfe had two choices in the split second before pulling his pistol. 1. I can let this inebriated guy with prior violent conviction history run crazy through the neighborhood with a taser or 2. I can stop him here. Not much time to sort that out.
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