captkronos
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Post by captkronos on May 23, 2020 3:33:53 GMT
When I look back on my dabbling in exercise and such, I can point to 3 things that absolutely made a visible difference:
1. Ketogenic Diet 2. High Rep Pushups 3. Creatine
I never did all of these together, and I'm not sure no. 1 and 3 are optimal together anyway. I do wonder why it is once we find something seems to work, we ever abandon it. Maybe just boredom. Currently trying to return to what has actually worked. Still torn between puffing up a little with creatine or dropping some belly fat with keto. I don't think both are possible at the same time. I've never found any exercise that can make as sudden of change as high rep pushups, there's no way around that in my experience. Now drop and give me 20...
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MBS
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Post by MBS on May 23, 2020 4:26:16 GMT
What works for me is unstructured simplicity:
hiking walking pullups dips trap bar deadlift balance work/ stretching
Im consistent because I enjoy these activities, especially the mountain hiking.
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Post by zenqsavant on May 23, 2020 7:11:16 GMT
Even better than dsr dvr high rep, chest pressing?
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Post by fastfor40 on May 23, 2020 10:45:58 GMT
1. IF or Keto Diet
2. Deadlifts and high-rep pushups
3. Squats in sets of 5 or less, and set ranges from 3 to 16, depending how I felt that day.
4. Hill Sprints
5. Creatine never, ever did a thing for me. However, for a long time I was eating 20 to 25 eggs during my IF six -hour feeding window
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Post by Michael on May 23, 2020 11:02:44 GMT
" I do wonder why it is once we find something seems to work, we ever abandon it." Yeah boredom could be a factor. Like MBS mentions, "Being consistent and enjoying what You do" helps. Something that has worked for me in the past is changing some variables in my training every 3-4 weeks especially when it comes to a visible difference. I have gotten away from this. We tend to listen to other people especially on forums like this. It's nice to get ideas to change things up but we know our bodies better than someone that's not there with us. We can become our worst enemies.
If You wanted my two cents I would say go with numbers 1 and 2. Depending on how much belly fat You have I would say that's a good healthy option. When it comes to pushups, I personally am not a minimalist, there are things You could do to change up things besides straight sets. You can do Pyraminds, Ladders, EMOM, GTG, etc...
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macky
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Post by macky on May 23, 2020 12:41:19 GMT
Capitaine and Fast, when you say hi-rep pushups, what numbers are you talking about ?
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Post by pierinifitness on May 23, 2020 13:39:55 GMT
Eating less as a lifestyle, yesterday, today, tomorrow and for rest of my life and not until some weight loss or body appearance result is achieved.
Weighing myself each morning. Keeping detailed training journals.
Using a tape measure to capture my girth details occasionally and taking pictures to keep my bathroom mirror and my perception honest.
Taking videos of me in fitness action to evaluate my form and to spot my fitness lameness so I can work on eradicating it.
Changing and maintaining my brain and behavior that food is fuel for my body and not my crack cocaine drug of choice.
Intuitive fitness training rather than following a structured plan, and training for the day based on what my body and mind is telling me.
Not dodging intensity during my workouts.
Chasing athleticism rather than bodybuilding in my training approach.
Having seasonal fitness goals that are measurable and then chasing them with periodic tests.
Having desire, discipline, patience and perseverance in chasing, achieving and maintaining all my fitness, health and wellness goals.
Not letting anyone sabotage my goals, especially me.
Realizing that having achieved these goals doesn’t make me any better of a person. If I’m a jerk and a turd before, I’ll be one after even if I’m sporting a bad ass body and am fit like an upper-percentile amateur athlete.
Know my age.
How’s that for a couple?
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Post by fastfor40 on May 23, 2020 15:50:37 GMT
I wrote about my pushup program almost 20 years ago in JP's forum
My form wasn't great, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Gordon's in his iconic PU video...I also did them fast. I did a three-days-on, rest, three-days-on schedule, and my daily reps ranged from 750 to 1,000, and one day when I was grounded because of a snowstorm I did close to 2,000. They were similar to what was shown in Jack King's video, but my feet were not elevated. I did them for several months, and I suppose I saw some size increase, but I can't say I saw much of a strength increase in anything other than pushup ability. I started doing pushups again March 15th, and I do different varieties, I do them slowe with a much, much greater range of motion. My reps are in the 20-25- rep range, and my goal is 150-200 a day. On some days I superset PUs with kettlebell swings, or do a four-exercise set of PUs, swings, jump squats and dumbbell curls.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on May 23, 2020 16:06:10 GMT
For me, the ultimate tried and proven method for building strength and muscle is as old as civilization - progressive resistance. A good, well-rounded routine of weights, bands, and bodyweight will guarantee the best results.
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Post by mr potatohead on May 23, 2020 17:13:46 GMT
To make a visible difference, what has worked for me is:
1. Eating less (portion control) .... or eating mostly greens or eating cold potatoes or not eating - or some combination of those, and drinking lots of water, while continuing to do the strength and conditioning exercises that I'm doing at the time.
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Post by ddh on May 23, 2020 20:21:29 GMT
This is a great topic, what has worked for is the following, hi rep deadlifts, until I had my back to back shoulder surgeries 4 yrs ago, bodyweight squats, push ups,neutral grip pull ups, single wheel ab wheel, which is an underrated and inexpensive exercise device and which had become my favorite exercise, brisk walking, and have been doing squat thrusts, which I did 10x 20 the other day, I have also learned that I don’t have to kill myself every workout, which has taken me yrs to get through my thick skull! At almost 62 , I train for the game of life, to be pain free, be more mobile, which I need more work on, and injury free, I do Intermittent fasting, but can only make it to 14 hrs.not quite yet to the recommend 16 hrs., 2 other things which have helped me a lot to is in the last 6 months, I have started taking glucosamine,chondroitin and MSM,and tumeric which has really helped my knees out a lot
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Post by ddh on May 23, 2020 20:24:13 GMT
One more thing is I do my bodyweight exercises much slower also, and don’t lock out when I do them. Much better on my joints.
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Post by vegetus25 on May 23, 2020 20:52:50 GMT
The routine that has worked best for me is the one I am currently doing. How good is it? Well, if I had been doing this routine in my prime I might have guns like Bruce, that's how good! I have not been eating to gain size, but my arms and chest are bigger than they ever have been.
1. Start with rebounding and general loosening up (especially, the shoulders).
2. Isometrics - held in one position for 45-60 seconds, moderate tension
3. One set of squats or lunges for legs
4. Two sets of rows and two sets of push-ups from rings or webbing with handles. I either do full (for me) reps or do New Yorker style on push-ups. I elevate my feet and do them with my feet on the ground. For rows, I do full reps or do them Rob Thoburn's Thirds style. I will do over, under, or parallel grips and vary what style I do based on what I feel like for that day. I use constant tension and train pretty close to failure (I try to go within 1 or 2, or 3 reps of failure).
5. I train every other day.
6. I walk daily (almost).
7. I do mobility work almost daily. I should do more. Lots of foam rolling and goofing on rings a la Pete Wagner.
8. I have incorporated some of Christian Thibadeau's neurotyping ideas into my routine and supplementation and feel they have helped. I sporadically take multi-vitamins, Vit D, and B-12. I take creatine and glycine after workouts. I also take glycine before bed five or so nights a week. I have recently started drinking apple cider vinegar; putting turmeric with black pepper in water and drinking it; and adding powdered ginger to stuff I eat.
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macky
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Post by macky on May 23, 2020 21:00:03 GMT
I wrote about my pushup program almost 20 years ago in JP's forum My form wasn't great, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Gordon's in his iconic PU video...I also did them fast. I did a three-days-on, rest, three-days-on schedule, and my daily reps ranged from 750 to 1,000, and one day when I was grounded because of a snowstorm I did close to 2,000. They were similar to what was shown in Jack King's video, but my feet were not elevated. I did them for several months, and I suppose I saw some size increase, but I can't say I saw much of a strength increase in anything other than pushup ability. I started doing pushups again March 15th, and I do different varieties, I do them slowe with a much, much greater range of motion. My reps are in the 20-25- rep range, and my goal is 150-200 a day. On some days I superset PUs with kettlebell swings, or do a four-exercise set of PUs, swings, jump squats and dumbbell curls. Thanks Fast. Impressive.
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Post by vegetus25 on May 23, 2020 21:07:30 GMT
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