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Post by golden on Oct 22, 2019 18:19:31 GMT
I have read many articles saying that the regular sit-up and crunches are bad for your back, and should be replaced with planks. Any opinions on this? Feedback appreciated.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 22, 2019 18:34:51 GMT
I had read somewhere that planks are more effective at building ab muscles. I saw a video of Rowdy Rhonda holding a plank for a long time. (wish it was my plank)
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Post by billfish on Oct 22, 2019 20:36:35 GMT
I have read many articles saying that the regular sit-up and crunches are bad for your back, and should be replaced with planks. Any opinions on this? Feedback appreciated. How do they feel to you ? That's what counts.....
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 22, 2019 22:19:27 GMT
Situps can be hard on the back, depending on how you do them. Legs should be bent at knees and don't hold hands behind head. You don't even need to come all of the way up. I think crunches have less impact - they don't bother me as much as situps, which I no longer do - but what I do most is to raise my legs while hanging. When I do wheel roll outs, I pause to work an area that feels good and go slow, so I only do about 5 ROs and not full ROM since I never come back past arms straight down until done. Arching the back helps here.
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Post by Michael on Oct 22, 2019 23:34:33 GMT
, My stomach is hurting. Not from sit=ups or planks. Bruce, You're nuts, . Billfish said it perfect, "How do they feel to you? That's what counts....." Everyone has a different opinion on this subject as do articles. Some people also say You don't need to do direct ab work because other things work it. I remember years ago they use to say to work your abs so You don't get back pain. Articles and people don't take into account genetics, injuries, and every body is different. I'm far from an expert but who do You listen to? I would say Your own experience and sometimes the experience of others. Al Kavadlo's brother Danny has been doing situps for years and so has Ross. Many people have done situps. My experience and opinion are close to Mr. P's. I do the McGill Big 3 every morning. I do direct ab work probably around twice a week. It may be a couple of sets of frog crunches, Get-Up situps or crunches, hollow holds or the hangs like Mr.P described. I was diagnosed in 2007 with 4 herniated, 1 bulging disc and had two fractured vertebrae in my lower back. My back has felt great with no incidents in years, knock on wood, .
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Post by billfish on Oct 22, 2019 23:35:07 GMT
Never liked situps and don't think they are very effective.....hanging leg raises, windshield wipers, dragon flags are far more effective IMO Plus practicing for front and back levers give the core a great workout....you don't have to even be able to do them properly....just go through the motions Skin-the-cats will also work the core well...you could add medicine ball Russian twists and Turkish getups as well
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Post by Michael on Oct 23, 2019 0:12:15 GMT
Yeah, they would be more effective but some may not be able to do them. I wish I had a set like Yourself Billfish. Any overhead work I do is between wide beams in my basement. , I did mess with one of those levers on a pull-up bar. I tried the skin-the-cat on a bar and was surprised I was able to do it, , felt like a little kid. Turkish getups are my favorite.
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Post by billfish on Oct 23, 2019 0:19:55 GMT
Yeah, they would be more effective but some may not be able to do them. I wish I had a set like Yourself Billfish. Any overhead work I do is between wide beams in my basement. , I did mess with one of those levers on a pull-up bar. I tried the skin-the-cat on a bar and was surprised I was able to do it, , felt like a little kid. Turkish getups are my favorite. Good point Michael....i sometimes forget that The skin-the-cat is one of my favorites as is the TGU
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Post by Dave Reslo on Oct 23, 2019 1:21:00 GMT
I know I've said this many times before but to me abdominal strength is all about carrying stuff. After that, I think stability stuff is good, so I guess I would go with planks.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 23, 2019 1:35:38 GMT
I did mess with one of those levers on a pull-up bar. How'd that work for you?
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Post by trog on Oct 23, 2019 9:04:37 GMT
I do crunches with bent knees and I slide my hands uo my legs, squeezing at the top. Nice burn if I do enough. When I do planks, I feel twinges in my lower back, so I don't do them.
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Post by Michael on Oct 23, 2019 10:36:54 GMT
I did mess with one of those levers on a pull-up bar. How'd that work for you? It was a while ago, 2 or 3 years ago. I really don't remember how far I got with it.
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Post by Michael on Oct 23, 2019 10:39:55 GMT
Here's an opinion on planks that aligns with what Trog said. I personally don't feel any problems when I do them.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 23, 2019 14:14:50 GMT
It was a while ago, 2 or 3 years ago. I really don't remember how far I got with it. Oh. A pity. Lever workouts can be quite enjoyable. There must be 50 ways to love your lever.
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Post by stuke on Oct 23, 2019 18:28:21 GMT
I don't really think planks can touch other ab rxercises like hanging leg raises, l sit etc. It is a very srfaye exercise which I am sure has some benefit, but it is way overrated in my book.
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