|
Post by IMO on Apr 30, 2019 22:20:14 GMT
I agree he is not mentally well and has been progressively getting worse over the years; kudos to you and yours' on your mockery of the mentally ill. Go ahead and justify your behavior based upon a crazy guys behavior, it says more about you than the mental ill guy. That forum reads like jilted lovers stalking the crazy lady that unjustly dumped them. Nobody on AMMII, myself included, enjoys that Peterson may be mentally disturbed. And you would know that if you read my above posts. That he may be mentally unstable is not the basis for our behavior at all, so please stop making judgements based on inaccurate observations, especially your rather silly last sentence.
That he may be mentally unstable does not mean that JP should be left alone to post his nonsense which has already caused consternation among families of those he has referenced. Many of the people JP has said that he has known and spoken to are now dead, and cannot answer for themselves. Those are still alive have refuted what JP allegedly asserted re his conversations with them and training methods etc.
That is demonstrated plain dishonest and fraudulent behavior, and it is now in the public domain via Peterson and TFM. Worldwide.
Spending time and energy holding a mentally unstable person accountable for their spewings on the Internet for over a decade seems extreme to me, but if it fulfills your need to serve others...Mazel tov!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 22:22:38 GMT
Nobody on AMMII, myself included, enjoys that Peterson may be mentally disturbed. And you would know that if you read my above posts. That he may be mentally unstable is not the basis for our behavior at all, so please stop making judgements based on inaccurate observations, especially your rather silly last sentence.
That he may be mentally unstable does not mean that JP should be left alone to post his nonsense which has already caused consternation among families of those he has referenced. Many of the people JP has said that he has known and spoken to are now dead, and cannot answer for themselves. Those are still alive have refuted what JP allegedly asserted re his conversations with them and training methods etc.
That is demonstrated plain dishonest and fraudulent behavior, and it is now in the public domain via Peterson and TFM. Worldwide.
Spending time and energy holding a mentally unstable person accountable for their spewings on the Internet for over a decade seems extreme to me, but if it fulfills your need to serve others...Mazel tov! Amen.
|
|
|
Post by mr potatohead on May 1, 2019 1:06:38 GMT
Spending time and energy holding a mentally unstable person accountable for their spewings on the Internet for over a decade seems extreme to me, but if it fulfills your need to serve others...Mazel tov! Amen. I see what you're saying ..... nutty people like Hitler and 'rev' Jim Jones should just be left alone to do their thing, right? Can't really blame them. They were insane. Why should you care what they did or do to others?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 1:14:27 GMT
I see what you're saying ..... nutty people like Hitler and 'rev' Jim Jones should just be left alone to do their thing, right? Can't really blame them. They were insane. Why should you care what they did or do to others? Did you really just compare Peterson a fitness guy to two mass murderers, wow. To put him in that kind of company takes balls and two today different extremes. might want to get your head checked.
|
|
Mr Average
Caneguru
Kegal Grand Master, 8th Dan BlackBelt in Origami, World Champion Couch Potato
Posts: 1,461
|
Post by Mr Average on May 1, 2019 1:22:07 GMT
I am in receipt of information from someone who I utterly trust without question, that some time ago you posted publicly on Facebook complaining about how Peterson had abused and used you. What hold did Peterson have over you that you ever continued to associate with him, even after a possible break ?
You could say that things have changed since then, but in fact you are currently apparently still unhappy with the "religious bullshit" etc, and stated that you have decided to leave and not go back to Peterson and TFM.
Why do I not believe you ?
You have already been found to be dishonest, for a start. A bullshit story in the same vein as JP. Secondly, my first post on this matter was in answer to Alan Oldstudent who I very much respect for his honesty and views on important matters and who I wanted to explain the specific reasons for our continued behavior re TFM, and the potential and actual damage that Peterson has caused/is causing.
Yet YOU jumped right in, defending Peterson while attempting to distance yourself (apparently) from him and his forum. On two counts your word is already not to be trusted.
Than to you I'm not to be trusted. Yeah I ranted about what he did. I can also forgive but it's impossible to forget. I'll stop defending, it's not getting anywhere and I'm not going on that forum anymore. Don't believe me, that's your choice. You say I'm dishonest, I have people outside of this that'll say otherwise so that's that. How about I propose that we stop talking about this, I'll give you my word I won't talk about it anymore and start fresh, if you're up for that I'm all for it but if you're not than I'm sorry you feel that way. You deserve better than my dishonesty and my BS. You should take up stand up comedy, you say that you are not going on that site, yet you reported that site being down. How would you know that if you did not try to go on there? You say that you are not going on there anymore. How can you go on there when it is down? Is there anyway possible, for you to cut out the BS?
|
|
|
Post by IMO on May 1, 2019 1:28:32 GMT
I see what you're saying ..... nutty people like Hitler and 'rev' Jim Jones should just be left alone to do their thing, right? Can't really blame them. They were insane. Why should you care what they did or do to others? Wow, Godwin's law. Look behind you, it's perspective.
|
|
macky
Caneguru
Upside down
CLUELESS TOSSER
Posts: 2,828
|
Post by macky on May 1, 2019 2:03:15 GMT
Nobody on AMMII, myself included, enjoys that Peterson may be mentally disturbed. And you would know that if you read my above posts. That he may be mentally unstable is not the basis for our behavior at all, so please stop making judgements based on inaccurate observations, especially your rather silly last sentence.
That he may be mentally unstable does not mean that JP should be left alone to post his nonsense which has already caused consternation among families of those he has referenced. Many of the people JP has said that he has known and spoken to are now dead, and cannot answer for themselves. Those are still alive have refuted what JP allegedly asserted re his conversations with them and training methods etc.
That is demonstrated plain dishonest and fraudulent behavior, and it is now in the public domain via Peterson and TFM. Worldwide.
Spending time and energy holding a mentally unstable person accountable for their spewings on the Internet for over a decade seems extreme to me, but if it fulfills your need to serve others...Mazel tov! Apart from the fact that I have not been doing that for a decade at all, you may be interested to know that I am also in receipt of information that a member was repeatedly mailed unsolicited pornographic material by Peterson until told by said member to stop.
I'm not taking any moral high ground on this, but do you honestly think that's a rational action that an Ordained Minister who professes to be Christian should take ?
Imagine one of the children clearing the mailbox while Dad is out working, or his wife if there are no children ? What would they think Dad was up to ?
That's the sort of trouble that Peterson can and does cause, whether he is aware of it or not. And Jim Jones IS a viable comparison to the sort of dictatorial/pseudo-religious/apocolyptic behavior and ranting that Mr Peterson is known to engage in. I've said before that if JP had another 20 points of IQ, he would be a very dangerous person indeed.
There are quite a few who ended up causing widespread grief and tragedy from supposedly ineffectual starts, and it is a blessing on this world that JP slips up much too often for normal people to take him seriously. Like I've said, it's the newbies that are in danger of following his distorted training and world views, until they either give it up after a short period of time, or are banned for simply expressing their own opinion.
Apparently Ben is a long-time supporter, and if he likes all that TFM stuff, so be it. But if you think that Peterson should be left alone to do his thing, then think again about his irrational behavior on an ongoing basis. I mean, a "divine encounter" that no one else would understand so JP won't try and explain it ? "Reclaiming his psychic powers" ? That's the sort of starts that many cults have had, that have pillaged their members and sometimes taken their lives on the back of one person's elevated opinion of himself in the world.
|
|
macky
Caneguru
Upside down
CLUELESS TOSSER
Posts: 2,828
|
Post by macky on May 1, 2019 2:07:31 GMT
I am in receipt of information from someone who I utterly trust without question, that some time ago you posted publicly on Facebook complaining about how Peterson had abused and used you. What hold did Peterson have over you that you ever continued to associate with him, even after a possible break ?
You could say that things have changed since then, but in fact you are currently apparently still unhappy with the "religious bullshit" etc, and stated that you have decided to leave and not go back to Peterson and TFM.
Why do I not believe you ?
You have already been found to be dishonest, for a start. A bullshit story in the same vein as JP. Secondly, my first post on this matter was in answer to Alan Oldstudent who I very much respect for his honesty and views on important matters and who I wanted to explain the specific reasons for our continued behavior re TFM, and the potential and actual damage that Peterson has caused/is causing.
Yet YOU jumped right in, defending Peterson while attempting to distance yourself (apparently) from him and his forum. On two counts your word is already not to be trusted.
Than to you I'm not to be trusted. Yeah I ranted about what he did. I can also forgive but it's impossible to forget. I'll stop defending, it's not getting anywhere and I'm not going on that forum anymore. Don't believe me, that's your choice. You say I'm dishonest, I have people outside of this that'll say otherwise so that's that. How about I propose that we stop talking about this, I'll give you my word I won't talk about it anymore and start fresh, if you're up for that I'm all for it but if you're not than I'm sorry you feel that way. You deserve better than my dishonesty and my BS. Good. Then the next time you see someone responding about Peterson and TFM with plain evidenced observations to someone else, please remember to hold to what you've just given your word to, and not jump in to defend the indefensible.
|
|
|
Post by IMO on May 1, 2019 2:17:08 GMT
Spending time and energy holding a mentally unstable person accountable for their spewings on the Internet for over a decade seems extreme to me, but if it fulfills your need to serve others...Mazel tov! Apart from the fact that I have not been doing that for a decade at all, you may be interested to know that I am also in receipt of information that a member was repeatedly mailed unsolicited pornographic material by Peterson until told by said member to stop.
I'm not taking any moral high ground on this, but do you honestly think that's a rational action that an Ordained Minister who professes to be Christian should take ?
Imagine one of the children clearing the mailbox while Dad is out working, or his wife if there are no children ? What would they think Dad was up to ?
That's the sort of trouble that Peterson can and does cause, whether he is aware of it or not. And Jim Jones IS a viable comparison to the sort of dictatorial/pseudo-religious/apocolyptic behavior and ranting that Mr Peterson is known to engage in. I've said before that if JP had another 20 points of IQ, he would be a very dangerous person indeed.
There are quite a few who ended up causing widespread grief and tragedy from supposedly ineffectual starts, and it is a blessing on this world that JP slips up much too often for normal people to take him seriously. Like I've said, it's the newbies that are in danger of following his distorted training and world views, until they either give it up after a short period of time, or are banned for simply expressing their own opinion.
Apparently Ben is a long-time supporter, and if he likes all that TFM stuff, so be it. But if you think that Peterson should be left alone to do his thing, then think again about his irrational behavior on an ongoing basis. I mean, a "divine encounter" that no one else would understand so JP won't try and explain it ? "Reclaiming his psychic powers" ? That's the sort of starts that many cults have had, that have pillaged their members and sometimes taken their lives on the back of one person's elevated opinion of himself in the world.
Okay. I see where you're coming from and I'll just walk away from you, like I did to JeP around 2007.
|
|
macky
Caneguru
Upside down
CLUELESS TOSSER
Posts: 2,828
|
Post by macky on May 1, 2019 2:37:33 GMT
Apart from the fact that I have not been doing that for a decade at all, you may be interested to know that I am also in receipt of information that a member was repeatedly mailed unsolicited pornographic material by Peterson until told by said member to stop.
I'm not taking any moral high ground on this, but do you honestly think that's a rational action that an Ordained Minister who professes to be Christian should take ?
Imagine one of the children clearing the mailbox while Dad is out working, or his wife if there are no children ? What would they think Dad was up to ?
That's the sort of trouble that Peterson can and does cause, whether he is aware of it or not. And Jim Jones IS a viable comparison to the sort of dictatorial/pseudo-religious/apocolyptic behavior and ranting that Mr Peterson is known to engage in. I've said before that if JP had another 20 points of IQ, he would be a very dangerous person indeed.
There are quite a few who ended up causing widespread grief and tragedy from supposedly ineffectual starts, and it is a blessing on this world that JP slips up much too often for normal people to take him seriously. Like I've said, it's the newbies that are in danger of following his distorted training and world views, until they either give it up after a short period of time, or are banned for simply expressing their own opinion.
Apparently Ben is a long-time supporter, and if he likes all that TFM stuff, so be it. But if you think that Peterson should be left alone to do his thing, then think again about his irrational behavior on an ongoing basis. I mean, a "divine encounter" that no one else would understand so JP won't try and explain it ? "Reclaiming his psychic powers" ? That's the sort of starts that many cults have had, that have pillaged their members and sometimes taken their lives on the back of one person's elevated opinion of himself in the world.
Okay. I see where you're coming from and I'll just walk away from you, like I did to JeP around 2007. Good for you IMO. Shows that you can stand on your own two feet. Would that others follow your commendable example.
|
|
|
Post by justregularguy on May 1, 2019 10:17:41 GMT
So you got my legs, you lucky b'stard, I was a typical skinny guy with a whole 34" chest and tampon string arms and legs. Then when I was about 17 to 18 years old, I started out using weights seriously and started to grow. I have never had the genetics to become huge, but that has never bothered me. I just wanted to become stronger and the increase in size came with it of course. Funny how we never appreciate our gifts. I loved lifting and had a friend in high school. He 6'3 HUGE square frame, a shorter Gronkowski. Zero interest in lifting weights. Man how I could have built that frame if it was mine. I'm thinking the same when I see obese people who prolly have perfectly fine shoulders and could easily trim down and train like there's no tomorrow without restrictions. If my left shoulder wasn't holding me back I would be a fucking beast! I could train waaaay heavier, do all kinds of exercises without trouble. Those obese people could do all that but they rather stuff food into their mouths (rofl)
|
|
|
Post by mr potatohead on May 1, 2019 13:46:07 GMT
Obviously, I was not implying that JeP is a mass murderer. I was trying to illustrate that it is quite reasonable to hold him accountable for damages he causes, in response to this:
macky did much better and was more thorough than my hit-and-run jab.
|
|