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Post by moxohol on Jan 20, 2020 16:42:42 GMT
I like those training sessions too. I honestly respect what Silverlooks does. To do the 30-30-30 protocol You need to be able to have mental toughness. Whether You like Drew Baye or not there's nothing wrong with that protocol. I did the 30-30-30 for a while. I'm more of a variety guy so I didn't stay with it. I like movement exercise more. I'm nowhere in Silverlooks league and it has worked for him. It's been changed to "20-20-20" as the new standard by the originating author. Combined with calisthenics it rises to a unique exceptional protocol. Sounds like hyperbole but not when u try it. Perform overcoming iso's in the stretched position & immediately do the same type calisthenics as done with the performed isometrics. It's that simple & adds lots of bang for the buck.
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Post by jonrock on Jan 20, 2020 16:55:30 GMT
I like those training sessions too. I honestly respect what Silverlooks does. To do the 30-30-30 protocol You need to be able to have mental toughness. Whether You like Drew Baye or not there's nothing wrong with that protocol. I did the 30-30-30 for a while. I'm more of a variety guy so I didn't stay with it. I like movement exercise more. I'm nowhere in Silverlooks league and it has worked for him. It's been changed to "20-20-20" as the new standard by the originating author. Combined with calisthenics it rises to a unique exceptional protocol. Sounds like hyperbole but not when u try it. Perform overcoming iso's in the stretched position & immediately do the same type calisthenics as done with the performed isometrics. It's that simple & adds lots of bang for the buck. According to Baye, it is 20-20-20-20. 4 stages.
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Post by moxohol on Jan 20, 2020 17:06:12 GMT
It's been changed to "20-20-20" as the new standard by the originating author. Combined with calisthenics it rises to a unique exceptional protocol. Sounds like hyperbole but not when u try it. Perform overcoming iso's in the stretched position & immediately do the same type calisthenics as done with the performed isometrics. It's that simple & adds lots of bang for the buck. According to Baye, it is 20-20-20-20. 4 stages. You are correct on that but I tweaked it for my own upper body use. I train so hard that I get tendonitis in my joints using more than 60s. 90s doesn't seem to affect my legs.
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Post by Michael on Jan 20, 2020 17:50:07 GMT
Nice one for linking that article Michael I just read it even though I've read it before ! I've took a lot of tips from him and put them into action and got cracking results ! I've always been into high volume but lately I've been doing just 2 sets to all out failure on all moves and steadily increasing the reps over time and the results are crazy . I think it's good to go through times with both. It's keeps You mentally fresh. Because I can't quote him because I'm doing this on my phone.But he has the right idea about not having to do crazy cardio sessions to loss fat. Thanks for posting about him.
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Post by Michael on Jan 20, 2020 17:57:29 GMT
Moxhol I don't keep up with Drew Baye's changing protocols. I got his book on my Kindle because of Silverlooks. In that book it was 30-30-30. Thanks for letting me know of the change. Currently I don't do Isometrics. Everyone likes different protocols when it comes to Isometrics. I'm glad that You like this and it's working for You. I believe everyone has to find the kind of exercise they like and that will keep them motivated to train. I don't believe in the magic elixir.
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Post by chanduthemagician on Jan 21, 2020 0:19:40 GMT
I think the key to TSC is the going min 60 seconds to max 90 seconds. I did question the low load at the beginning and increasing to the end. I've only played around a little and think ramping it up is probably the way to go and if you want to do all out iso's, just do over coming for 6 - 10 sec or use Solytrain's protocol.
I will say TSC fries the mucles. Too soon to tell on any benefit vs other training I've done. I will say it feels like a more intense form of superslow.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jan 21, 2020 2:00:34 GMT
In addition to TSC, I believe adding timed static holds(yielding isometrics) is worthwhile
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Post by moxohol on Jan 22, 2020 16:25:23 GMT
Moxhol I don't keep up with Drew Baye's changing protocols. I got his book on my Kindle because of Silverlooks. In that book it was 30-30-30. Thanks for letting me know of the change. Currently I don't do Isometrics. Everyone likes different protocols when it comes to Isometrics. I'm glad that You like this and it's working for You. I believe everyone has to find the kind of exercise they like and that will keep them motivated to train. I don't believe in the magic elixir. I don't believe I was proselytizing nor intended to. I was praising its effectiveness as other routines listed here do as well. Specific Adaption to Imposed Demands (SAID principle) regulates many routines to the users specific needs & goals. If I find or use something really good that I think will benefit others, I'll contribute it here. My specific needs are rehab & general preparatory phase. So, it won't apply to alot of people here of course but its all good just the same.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jan 23, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
Don't know if timed static contractions is what I'm doing but am having fun resurrecting timed pull-up hang holds and handstand against the wall holds in my training rotation. I can do the pull-up hang holds throughout the day at work as a break from the drudgery of sitting for a living and to align my spine.
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Post by moxohol on Jan 23, 2020 17:42:42 GMT
Don't know if timed static contractions is what I'm doing but am having fun resurrecting timed pull-up hang holds and handstand against the wall holds in my training rotation. I can do the pull-up hang holds throughout the day at work as a break from the drudgery of sitting for a living and to align my spine. TSC is just a fancy way of progressive ramping isometrics using 20s increments. The stretched position is best because the muscle is elongated & you're hitting the entire range of muscle doing so. Plus, it jacks up your IGF-1 levels which is inexplicable but it's a fact. U don't need to stuff your face with protein to increase your IGF-1. I include the calisthenics to get rid of the stiffness associated with doing isometrics. It's a close cousin of the Isometronics propogated by Bill March & Bill Starr.
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