TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 15:44:32 GMT
(And yes, yes, yes -- tofu...OMG! The horrors!)
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Aug 19, 2018 15:55:25 GMT
I would replace the sugar with raw, unfiltered honey. I use honey in place of sugar for everything.
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 16:11:56 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Aug 19, 2018 16:51:03 GMT
I can't pull up studies at the drop of a hat, but I have read that the reason sugar is bad for you is because it draws upon and depletes something - enzymes? - in your body in order to process it. Honey comes with its own processing agent.
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Post by mr potatohead on Aug 19, 2018 17:27:51 GMT
If the interest is in health, not merely weight loss ..... Lots more going on in sugar and honey than just fructose. Refined sugar and raw, unfiltered honey are worlds apart in the way the nutrients (negative nutrients, in the case of refined sugar) affect the human body. They are so dissimilar in effect that they might be considered fructose-containing nutritional opposites.
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 17:30:42 GMT
I can't pull up studies at the drop of a hat, but I have read that the reason sugar is bad for you is because it draws upon and depletes something in your body in order to process it. Honey comes with its own processing agent. I know what you're referring to and have see the same thing, but, I think you're referring to the statement honey is predigested and has some trace enzymes. That is different from the metabolic pathways required to handle different sugars we ingest...whether it is potatoes, rice, oats, HFCS, honey or sugar, they're all forms of of simple sugars. For oats or potatoes? Molecules from simple sugars attach together and form what are called "long branching chains" -- aka complex carbohydrates. Fiber in carbs? They're just complex carbs with longer chains But, the sugars in honey have to follow the same metabolic processes as any other sugar you ingest. And, the fructose + glucose require two different metabolic pathways. A little biochemistry for your Sunday reading: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Carbohydrate_Metabolism.png/660px-Carbohydrate_Metabolism.png
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 17:33:23 GMT
If the interest is in health, not merely weight loss ..... Lots more going on in sugar and honey than just fructose. Refined sugar and raw, unfiltered honey are worlds apart in the way the nutrients ( negative nutrients, in the case of refined sugar) affect the human body. They are so dissimilar in effect that they might be considered fructose-containing nutritional opposites. Unfortunately, that is not correct and the nutrients in honey are so minute the overhyping is ridiculous. Just ask any Type 2 diabetic if he or she can consume honey or sugar? The answer's no to both because they again have the same negative impact on the body. Biochemistry related to sugars doesn't change whether it is in the form of sucrose or honey.
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Post by mr potatohead on Aug 19, 2018 17:39:51 GMT
Yes, when the sugar is isolated from the food. Sure, if a person has a medical condition, then they must avoid some things that people who are normally healthy do not. That seems obvious. Anyway, not going to argue. Raw unfiltered honey has benefits that I've experienced and I've also experienced the negatives of refined sugar.
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 17:56:52 GMT
Yes, when the sugar is isolated from the food. Sure, if a person has a medical condition, then they must avoid some things that people who are normally healthy do not. That seems obvious. Anyway, not going to argue. Raw unfiltered honey has benefits that I've experienced and I've also experienced the negatives of refined sugar. Not correct. Sugar is sugar when it hits the body. For folks tuning in, the only differences in sugar in say oats hitting the body vs. honey? The oats are a complex carb and therefore release their sugars into the body at a far, far slower rate than honey, which is pretty much straight sugars. So people tuning in ask, what? Honey is pretty much straight sugar? Not quite -- it is suspended in the liquid -- but there is no fiber in honey that it binds to which would slow the digestion of the sugars. Anyway, if you're saying sugar arrives in the body in the form of "honey" -- a pretty simple sugar -- that it is healthier, well, have fun with the myths and spin the honey industry has created. If you want to be healthy? Lose weight? Avoid simple sugars is what it comes down to. Honey, table sugar (sucrose), HFSCs in processed foods. Either way, honey's +80% or more simple sugars...
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Aug 19, 2018 18:12:19 GMT
Anything that comes from a bee's butt can't be all bad.
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Post by TexasRanger on Aug 19, 2018 18:23:49 GMT
Wrong end of the bee.
Honey is regurgitated nectar from the flowers they've visited.
And nectar contains two sugars: fructose and glucose.
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