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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 13, 2017 12:43:09 GMT
For most of the years I've been working out I had always followed the standard 3 set/10 rep protocol. With the advent of the Internet I began hearing about One Set to Failure. Every now and then I would look it up, make inquiries, get differing opinions, and decided it wasn't for me. Maybe it's the words "to failure" that make it sound unattractive.
One day I thought, Why stop at ten reps and then do it again? Why not just keep going until I can't do anymore? And then once having done that, and my muscles are fatigued, it doesn't make any sense to do it again.
That was several years ago, and I've been doing it ever since. The results are pretty much the same as with the sets thing. It also has the added attraction of shortening your workouts.
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Post by fatjake on Oct 13, 2017 15:26:45 GMT
Steve Maxwell said in a recent podcast that once you have been training for 3 years, the way you train doesn't really matter, the results will be much the same, so it should be all about training safely.
I think you are both probably right, the protocol/reps/sets/equipment/etc etc are all just minor details really.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 13, 2017 15:35:25 GMT
3 years. Sounds about right. After 3 years of working out, at the age of 41, I was 175 lbs. with 17 1/4" arms, a 46" chest, and a 33" waist. A benchmark. Wonder if I could see ever that again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:48:30 GMT
3 years. Sounds about right. After 3 years of working out, at the age of 41, I was 175 lbs. with 17 1/4" arms, a 46" chest, and a 33" waist. A benchmark. Wonder if I could see ever that again. Did you not work out then Bruce until you were 38? I hadn't realised you started relatively late.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 13, 2017 15:56:39 GMT
That's right, whiffties. Prior to that I had exercised sporadically over the years, but never stuck with anything. At 38 I buckled down and made working out a part of my life.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 13, 2017 15:59:41 GMT
Actually, it all started when my wife went out shopping one day and came home with a rower and a Walmart set of weights and a bench press with an overhead pulley, telling me we ought to start getting into shape. I was hooked from that day on.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Oct 13, 2017 16:28:47 GMT
Actually, it all started when my wife went out shopping one day and came home with a rower and a Walmart set of weights and a bench press with an overhead pulley, telling me we ought to start getting into shape. I was hooked from that day on. So The Hook was conceived by a threesome of big equipment?
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 13, 2017 17:06:05 GMT
Actually, it all started when my wife went out shopping one day and came home with a rower and a Walmart set of weights and a bench press with an overhead pulley, telling me we ought to start getting into shape. I was hooked from that day on. So The Hook was conceived by a threesome of big equipment? Actually, the seeds for the Hook were planted years and years ago when, as a teenager, I got a set of weights with big, clunky cast iron collars with square head bolts and a stamped wrench. I could have had lunch in the time it took to change plates. I often thought, wouldn't the instantaneous changing of resistance be great?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:48:02 GMT
That's right, whiffties. Prior to that I had exercised sporadically over the years, but never stuck with anything. At 38 I buckled down and made working out a part of my life. [ Ah I had no idea you were such a late bloomer! That's great you got into it and kept it up. I like Steve Maxwell stuff. But that video recently posted on AMM was the gayest thing ever! Bruv told me it reminded him of how a lot of gay porn films start.
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Post by Kubla Khan on Oct 13, 2017 18:47:14 GMT
Which video m9
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 19:05:05 GMT
I think it was London Real or something like that. He's in a hotel room with another bloke, and by the end they've stripped down to their speedos and are rubbing themselves down.
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Post by fatjake on Oct 13, 2017 19:06:11 GMT
I like Steve Maxwell stuff. But that video recently posted on AMM was the gayest thing ever! Bruv told me it reminded him of how a lot of gay porn films start. yeah and bruv would know was that the one where Maxwell and the podcast host were both in their pants in his hotel room? That was pretty weird, apparently, that video caused around 4.5 boners on another forum
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 13, 2017 19:11:42 GMT
1977 or 1978, I went to my first Nautilus gym and trained one set failure -- something that violated everything I'd read up to that point. When I had some some money and time after college, I took a few days of leave and went to DeLand, Florida, while on leave and while I never met Arthur Jones, one of their staff put me through a truly brutal session and repeated the workout two days later before flying back. One set to failure each time.
Another example was with Mike Mentzer: after warming up, he put me on a pec dec and worked that to "failure", defined as when I could not move the weight in good form any further. Target eight reps. We rushed to an incline bench pressing machine, target eight reps. A few seconds to catch my breath, one set of lateral raises to failure -- eight reps. A few seconds to catch my breath and weighted triceps dips to failure. And that was it for a few days and then it was back (deadlifts and pulldowns) and one set of EZ barbell curls. Done. Following the HD protocol for a few months and my bench had gone from 325 x 2 to 345 x 1.
Fast forward to the 90s, did some phone coaching with Mentzer. My bench was still creeping up, but, following his recommendations and also implementing some static contraction training (with Mentzer's blessings) hit my PRs (both good and bad form).
And of course, the SuperSlow one set example.
The protocol works like a champ, but, it is a tough one to stick with.
Probably one of the biggest surprises? I was in Tulsa, OK, at the downtown YMCA and there was this huge monstrosity sitting in the middle of the floor downstairs where you walk into the weight room. It looked similar to the legendary "Big Blue" pullover. I asked what it was and I was taken to their director and he said 'what do you think it is'...I said a pullover machine. He said you know who Arthur Jones is? (yessir!) That is one of his very first pullover machines...piece of history but we're not sure what to do with it...
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 13, 2017 19:13:07 GMT
Yeah, that was the vid. Don't tell anyone, but I think I posted that London Real vid.
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Post by Kubla Khan on Oct 13, 2017 19:16:32 GMT
Found this on youtube ,in their pants with big brushes.Gay as fuck ,but funny.
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