TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Jul 17, 2018 21:51:06 GMT
Met someone yesterday who has been on the "Diamond" Fit for Life plan since the 90s and swears by it. Anyone familiar with this as he said all you do is eat fruit until lunch and then veggies and small amounts of meat etc for lunch and dinner.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 18, 2018 13:50:04 GMT
Not familiar, but I have eaten like that occasionally I suppose.
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Post by stormshadow on Jul 25, 2018 18:49:59 GMT
It was very famous in the early 80s and still quite popular on Amazon. The book is Fit for Life and Harvey and Marilyn Diamond are the others. Here is one detailed max review with good description. There are many. It really emphasized food combining. Really popular
AgogoLIVE
5.0 out of 5 starsPrinciples can't be more contrary to todays meals but which adhered to, brings great rewards for those with frequent indigestion
November 9, 2011
Format: Paperback|Verified Purchase
Principles herein can't be more contrary to today's conventional meal but which, if adhered to, brings great rewards for those who suffer frequent indigestion.
Spoken from personal experience as well as hvg witnessed a business associate get healthy over an 18mth project.
The book theorises that the body undergoes 3 major phases of food processing through a 24hour day. Phase 1 - Eating & Digestion (12noon-8pm); Phase 2 - Absorption (8pm-4am); and Phase 3 - Excretion (4am-12noon).
The author categorizes food into 3 categories: 1) carbohydate, 2) protein and 3) vegetables and advocates that food be consumed in compatible category combinations that would result in optimal digestion. For example, it maintains that proteins and carbohydrates should never be consumed together as the enzymes secreted to digest the respective classes tended to cancel out each other's digestive powers, neutralising the acidity/ alkalinity of the enzymes. As a result of which slows digestion, lengthening the time poorly digested food spends in the stomach. Nutrient absorption is impaired, and food would end up sitting in the digestive tract longer than it should, exposing it to a higher incidence of putrefication whenever it encounters sugary substances (desserts after a meal is a bad idea). This contributes to rapid putrefication - imagine foul odious sludge & gas sitting in one's intestines, going no where and the resulting emissions!. Rather - the aim is to maximise digestion and absorption and waste material expelled in the shortest possible time.
RATHER than carbs as the common food staple, theory advocates treating vegetables as the staple (common food) to be taken together with proteins and then separately in a different meal with carbs. Importantly, Diamond advocates that fruits be consumed on an empty stomach, best for breakfast in any amount till satisfied up till noon. The rationale here is to avoid diverting fresh energy from the previous night's good sleep to digesting a heavy meal, preferring rather to channel the available energy to the day's morning pursuits. Simple carbs from fruits are in absorbable form and provides the required energy for the cleansing (waste mgmt) cycle in the morning - when excretion best take place. A logical deduction from here then is for carbs & vegetables to be eaten at lunch - hence allowing the energy it generates to be used through the afternoon (rather than stored overnight). Proteins & vegetables otoh, is best consumed at night to resource muscle repair & recovery after the day's pursuits.
This overall eating formula aims to promote digestive health as well as aid effective weight loss - and it works! Caution though that what works for one may not work or be redundant for another. Hence listen to your own body. It's a gem for me.
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Post by stormshadow on Jul 25, 2018 18:52:07 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 25, 2018 19:20:32 GMT
Ah, food combining. I have a couple general food combining principles that I follow:
1. Eat foods with highest water content first.
2. Avoid eating fat with starchy/refined carbs.
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Post by donovan5 on Jul 26, 2018 19:59:13 GMT
If food combining works, could be a reason many people feel so much healthier when they go over to a paleo type of diet, possibly they're just digesting so much better rather than the diet itself being healthier.
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Post by jonrock on Jul 26, 2018 22:05:46 GMT
If food combining works, could be a reason many people feel so much healthier when they go over to a paleo type of diet, possibly they're just digesting so much better rather than the diet itself being healthier. Would like to know more about the science behind food combining(research/pubmed), what stormshadow posted is interesting. Maybe food combining plus 16/8 fasting is the key to longevity and leanness. |
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Post by TexasRanger on Jul 27, 2018 0:30:26 GMT
If food combining works, could be a reason many people feel so much healthier when they go over to a paleo type of diet, possibly they're just digesting so much better rather than the diet itself being healthier. Would like to know more about the science behind food combining(research/pubmed), what stormshadow posted is interesting. Maybe food combining plus 16/8 fasting is the key to longevity and leanness. Food combining is a fairly recent concept...outside a few studies, I don't think it has ever really been proven to have any value unless you've got a medical condition that would merit its use. There are people who are lean and healthy that have no issue with eating, say, a yam with grilled chicken and steamed vegetables or rice with shrimp vegetables and a little fruit for dessert. The experts in longevity -- Longo, Panda, etc. -- have written extensively about the fasting and longevity: 1. Eating in accordance with the circadian rhythm is key. Don't eat after 7pm if possible or before 7am. Your body's organs are still doing their repair work, your autoimmune system is still engaged. 2. Your eating window should be no more than 10 - 11 hours. Less is ok, but, Longo, Panda, etc., have found a 10 - 11 window is perfectly fine. And you'll note this ties into the circadian rhythm of the body, which scientists believe is the biggest control factor over our body before food, etc. 3. Keep your IGF-1 levels down which means limiting your animal protein (in addition to processed foods, alcohol and sugars). 4. Clean foods, mostly plants. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 27, 2018 4:08:46 GMT
..... There are people who are lean and healthy that have no issue with eating, say, a yam with grilled chicken and steamed vegetables or rice with shrimp vegetables and a little fruit for dessert. ...... I would eat either of those. Sounds tasty. The only exception I'd have is to eat the fruit first. Another "combining" principle I forgot to include above is to NOT combine fruit with other foods, but eat it as a separate meal, although I don't adhere strictly to that since I would eat fruit with a meal, but only at the beginning. |
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Post by stormshadow on Jul 28, 2018 20:48:51 GMT
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Post by stormshadow on Jul 28, 2018 20:52:31 GMT
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 28, 2018 20:58:32 GMT
As an aside, some gurus claim plant based protein foods must be combined with other such plants to get the proper amounts of the essential amino acids . True or ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 21:49:58 GMT
I think everyone reacts differently to certain diets , I have eaten a paleo diet for the past 10 years as that's what works for me , find what works for you and stick to it !
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 28, 2018 22:39:46 GMT
Looking good bazza!
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Post by stormshadow on Jul 28, 2018 23:49:40 GMT
Yes I do think diets vary for people. I follow Mediterranean diet but no fish since I am allergic. There are universal concepts. Eat fresh food in its natural state. Stay away from processed foods. Favor lower glycemic foods to mute insulin response. Water best drink. Don't eat too much. Listen to your body for foods that cause digestive problems. Fat is ok to eat if not saturated or hydrogenated.
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