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Post by Alan OldStudent on Mar 6, 2023 9:29:58 GMT
For those who do not know, Wikipedia tells us that the " French Resistance...was a collection of organizations that fought the Nazi occupation of France and the collaborationist Vichy régime during the Second World War." They were very famous and had worldwide hero status for their daring and courage. I am posting this World War II French partisan resistance song " The Partisan" here in support of Ukrainians fighting against Russian imperialist invasion. This video features World War II pictures that are quite hauntingly reminiscent of Ukraine. Leonard Cohen, known for his songs "Hallelujah" and "Suzanne" is the singer.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Mar 6, 2023 10:44:14 GMT
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Post by Dr. Stinkfinger on Mar 6, 2023 11:17:06 GMT
Before anyone chooses to believe the propaganda they get fed on a daily basis from the leftist MSM, they may want to do some actual research using independent sources: 21stcenturywire.com/tag/ukraine/
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Post by Dr Stinkfinger on Mar 6, 2023 11:24:14 GMT
There are actually quite a few good reasons that Russia didn’t have much choice in the matter:
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Post by Dr. Stinkfinger on Mar 6, 2023 11:47:13 GMT
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Post by Dr. Stinkfinger on Mar 6, 2023 11:59:54 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Mar 6, 2023 12:21:18 GMT
One things for damned sure, and that’s the indisputable fact that this proxy ‘war’ that’s sucking our hard earned American tax dollars down the toilet bowl would have never happened in the first place if the criminally inclined dingbat who is currently in the White House was respected by other world leaders… www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRWanSxA/
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Post by captkronos on Mar 6, 2023 12:25:28 GMT
I refuse to beat the drum or wave the flag much anymore. I make no secret that I am a "Constitutional Conservative" and will always stand for the Pledge and all that, but to deny the experience of my lifetime of observation would be insanity. Sometimes there is no GOOD GUY. The US Govt is nothing but a Deep State of embezzling elitists who play with our lives. Now, having the last two years of our Govt. lying to us about the origins of the bioweapon called Covid, and then using fascist tactics to force experimental mRNA jabs on healthy people for profits, I have even less reason to trust anything from them ever again. I don't give a damn about the Ukraine, the best thing they ever could have done was probably shoot the first American politician who ever came there.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 6, 2023 14:49:42 GMT
....... to deny the experience of my lifetime of observation would be insanity. ........ I liked most of what you said there, but ..... ...... my lifetime of "observation", due to the propaganda brainwashing I had received, told me, incorrectly, that there were pathogenic "virus" causing disease. The absolute fraud of "germ" theory and fairytale "virus" as a cause of illness came to my attention slowly over the past 3 years, and the truth of the actual data, "official" documents and historical facts required that I either deny my programming or be hypocritical. I deny my previous subjective observations outright and publicly because they were based on nothing more than a correlated coincidence, at times, to someone else's selfish, propaganda narrative that originated from deception, greed and pride. So, that's only one example that I could cite that tell me that it is quite sane, and in fact necessary to survival, to question what I think is true. Really, my parents told me that Santa was coming with presents and my observation was that I found presents on Xmas morning when I was a child, so Santa must be real, right ..........? Nah.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 6, 2023 15:28:21 GMT
There are a number of enlightening features in that "Ukraine On Fire", Oliver Stone documentary. Like the quote @ 1:06:50, "That's how it's been sold to the American people. The reality is very different."
And, near the end, the story of the lazily investigated and under-rug-swept shooting down of the Malaysian Boeing plane (@ 1:24:30) is an example, among a multitude of examples that could be cited, of how propaganda is served to us continually and people just accept it because "It's on the news everywhere, honey! It must be true!" and, "I don't want to think about anything important, I just want to be comfortable and oblivious.".
So we respond with the predictable knee-jerk emotions, which are actually being controlled by our "handlers". How sad.
I wish macky was around right now. We'd have a great time with this.
Thanks for posting the links and documentary, doc.
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Post by Dr. Stinkfinger on Mar 6, 2023 17:21:54 GMT
You’re quite welcome.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Mar 6, 2023 19:38:48 GMT
We hear so much about so called Nazis these days. Everyone that is against lockdowns, vax mandates and 15 minute cities is labelled a Nazi or an associate of them but when there's plain evidence of self identifying Nazis operating in Ukraine that have been attacking ethnic Russian civilians there since 2014 those Nazis are the good guys. They are nothing like the French Resistance.
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Post by Magnus on Mar 6, 2023 20:34:12 GMT
We hear so much about so called Nazis these days. Everyone that is against lockdowns, vax mandates and 15 minute cities is labelled a Nazi or an associate of them but when there's plain evidence of self identifying Nazis operating in Ukraine that have been attacking ethnic Russian civilians there since 2014 those Nazis are the good guys.They are nothing like the French Resistance. The inconvenient truth of the matter is that Ukraine has a long dirty history of collaborating with Nazi's and outright anti-semitism. They're also inconveniently guilty of the so-called 'ethnic cleansing' (murder) of 100's of thousands of innocent Polish people, mostly women and children along with unarmed men... These recent 'flag wavers' who stand in solidarity with Ukraine seem to blindly choose sides without actually doing any research of the actual facts. I would suggest that before making themselves look foolish any further they should take a moment to read about a certain Ukrainian scumbag that Ukraine saw fit to honor with a statue in 2007 and a postage stamp in 2009. As a matter of fact, in 2018, the Ukrainian Parliament voted to include Stepan Bandera's 110th birthday, on 1 January 2019, in a list of memorable dates and anniversaries to be celebrated that year. Stepan BanderaLegacy: The glorification and attempts to rehabilitate Stepan Bandera are growing trends in Ukraine. According to The Guardian, "Post-war Soviet history propagated the image of Bandera and the UPA as exclusively fascist collaborators and xenophobes."On the other hand, with the rise of nationalism in Ukraine, his memory there has been elevated. In late 2006, the Lviv city administration announced the future transference of the tombs of Stepan Bandera, Andriy Melnyk, Yevhen Konovalets and other key leaders of OUN/UPA to a new area of Lychakiv Cemetery specifically dedicated to victims of the repressions of the Ukrainian national liberation struggle. In October 2007, the city of Lviv erected a statue dedicated to Bandera. The appearance of the statue has engendered a far-reaching debate about the role of Stepan Bandera and UPA in Ukrainian history. The two previously erected statues were blown up by unknown perpetrators; the current is guarded by a militia detachment 24/7. On 18 October 2007, the Lviv City Council adopted a resolution establishing the Award of Stepan Bandera in journalism. On 1 January 2009, his 100th birthday was celebrated in several Ukrainian centres and a postage stamp with his portrait was issued the same day. On 1 January 2014, Bandera's 105th birthday was celebrated by a torchlight procession of 15,000 people in the centre of Kyiv and thousands more rallied near his statue in Lviv. The march was supported by the far-right Svoboda party and some members of the center-right Batkivshchyna. In 2018, the Ukrainian Parliament voted to include Bandera's 110th birthday, on 1 January 2019, in a list of memorable dates and anniversaries to be celebrated that year. The decision was criticized by the Jewish organization Simon Wiesenthal Center.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Mar 6, 2023 22:07:56 GMT
Most Ukrainians are not Nazis, but would still rather not have their country invaded, their cities reduced to rubble and their corpses mutilated.
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Post by Whiteys Be Special on Mar 6, 2023 22:35:58 GMT
Genocides have happened and are happening in Africa right now. China sure does have a lot of missing people. Females in Afghanistan & Iran sure are living it up. Some day virtue signalers may take notice, but I have my doubts.
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