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Post by brothersteve on Nov 12, 2021 16:58:17 GMT
and isometronmics for size and strength. revolutionaryprogramdesign.com/anthony-ditillo/I saw articles in Iron Man back in the 70's of this guy Anthony Ditillo, now deceased. A short thick bulk monster who used huge poundage partials in the power rack. The video in the article is in German, but they get their point across on how to do the isometronics described. I don't lift, and if I still did, it would not be this heavy, but others may find it interesting.
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Post by moxohol on Nov 12, 2021 19:26:25 GMT
and isometronmics for size and strength. revolutionaryprogramdesign.com/anthony-ditillo/I saw articles in Iron Man back in the 70's of this guy Anthony Ditillo, now deceased. A short thick bulk monster who used huge poundage partials in the power rack. The video in the article is in German, but they get their point across on how to do the isometronics described. I don't lift, and if I still did, it would not be this heavy, but others may find it interesting. View AttachmentHe is by definition overweight. That brings a host of medical problems.
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Post by jonrock on Nov 12, 2021 20:02:37 GMT
Ditillo was a beast, as his trainer, Deszo Ban.
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Post by moxohol on Nov 12, 2021 21:30:48 GMT
Ditillo was a beast, as his trainer, Deszo Ban. Left ventricle hypertrophy is common among dudes like this. It's just asking for cardiac arrest like what happened to Rich Piana.
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Post by brothersteve on Nov 13, 2021 13:42:11 GMT
You know your stuff Moxohol, or you read his obituary...."Anthony Charles Ditillo died on February 28, 2002 at the age of 54. He was a lifter of almost 40 years; never once even considering to stop his love of listing when being diagnosed with an enlarged heart at the age of 45. Also with this diagnostic, he suffered from his left side a ripped rear deltoid tendon and from his right side his triceps destroyed from nerve damage (both occurring from a standing press accident at around the same age of 45), and from chronic pain due to arthritis in his left ankle."
I don't know of any guys who were 5'6" and weighed between 260 to 300 plus most of their lives who did no cardio that lived healthy or long.
We all do, and have done pretty much done, the same exercises. I am intrigued by how people do their exercises from speed to sets and reps schemes and how often. Sergio also performed some exercises with little range of motion (ROM) and was huge. Some say his genetics and the gear he was on would have made him that way anyway. Gironda talked of no synapse training in which he says not to 'let the muscle complete the arc' (train mid ROM - no peak/max contraction) as it leads to CNS overload. All of us who have contracted muscles very hard and in the extreme max contracted position know how depleting it can be. I believe the CNS is key for a lot of things, but especially in allowing (or not allowing) muscle strength increase and growth.
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Post by moxohol on Nov 13, 2021 15:32:44 GMT
You know your stuff Moxohol, or you read his obituary...."Anthony Charles Ditillo died on February 28, 2002 at the age of 54. He was a lifter of almost 40 years; never once even considering to stop his love of listing when being diagnosed with an enlarged heart at the age of 45. Also with this diagnostic, he suffered from his left side a ripped rear deltoid tendon and from his right side his triceps destroyed from nerve damage (both occurring from a standing press accident at around the same age of 45), and from chronic pain due to arthritis in his left ankle." I don't know of any guys who were 5'6" and weighed between 260 to 300 plus most of their lives who did no cardio that lived healthy or long. We all do, and have done pretty much done, the same exercises. I am intrigued by how people do their exercises from speed to sets and reps schemes and how often. Sergio also performed some exercises with little range of motion (ROM) and was huge. Some say his genetics and the gear he was on would have made him that way anyway. Gironda talked of no synapse training in which he says not to 'let the muscle complete the arc' (train mid ROM - no peak/max contraction) as it leads to CNS overload. All of us who have contracted muscles very hard and in the extreme max contracted position know how depleting it can be. I believe the CNS is key for a lot of things, but especially in allowing (or not allowing) muscle strength increase and growth. I wouldn't say I know my stuff better n anyone else but it's obvious even to the most casual observer of what's going on here & the consequences are forewarned. Frank Zane stayed light relative to his training heyday & his lifestyle. Zane is relatively intact & spritely. U look at all these old timers from the golden age of bodybuilding (BB) & the lot of them now have heart, kidney, liver & degenerative disc problems. Big traps are a dead giveaway in that pic of Anthony Ditillo. People forget that most if not all steroids cause organ growth & tendon injuries. Look at what happened to Dallas McCarver? The man just didn't misuse steroids, he ABUSED them. Anadrol - 400mgs/day, Trenbolone - 2500mgs/week! Then he added insult to injury with 22 IU's of HGH! That's a death cycle. I look at all these old-timey strongmen & physical culturists before the Dianabol Era & they obviously knew something without needing PEDs to obtain it. Static contraction training comes to mind regarding Sergio, Gironda & Bill March. Hormones are not absolutely essential for growth. They proved that with cats. Proper nerve Stimulation is essential because strength is a learned skill. Bill Starr popularized isotonometrics which requires a partial before locking out on the rack pins. Rep/set schemes & movement tempo are pretty much dictated by training goals & SAID principle. I've only seen one exceptional training protocol in 30 years that wasn't hyperbole & that was Triphasic Training by Carl Dietz. It's the shiite. I don't want another brain hemorrhage or suffer needless injuries because I blithely went forward without checking my path 1st. Been there, done that with the truck that rolled up on me. So, I'm very diligent in my research & observations.
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Post by brothersteve on Nov 13, 2021 17:56:09 GMT
YES! Mega mass using PED's have led to disaster. The old school PC idea's are what interest me.
Hypertrophy is not what motivates me anymore, but I am still fascinated by how there were so many different types of training used to achieve it; speed reps, pumping/muscle spinning, slow heavy duty reps via Mentzer, 100's, Bulgarian daily training, etc.
I'll be looking into Dietz's TriPhasic training as well. EDIT: I found a pdf to check out.
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Post by moxohol on Nov 13, 2021 18:03:49 GMT
YES! Mega mass using PED's have led to disaster. The old school PC idea's are what interest me. Hypertrophy is not what motivates me anymore, but I am still fascinated by how there were so many different types of training used to achieve it; speed reps, pumping/muscle spinning, slow heavy duty reps via Mentzer, 100's, Bulgarian daily training, etc. I'll be looking into Dietz's TriPhasic training as well. file:///C:/Users/BigBubbaB/Downloads/2018_Thursday_Cal_Dietz_PDF_Copy.pdf I have Triphasic Training in the manuals section.
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Post by brothersteve on Nov 13, 2021 18:05:19 GMT
YES! Mega mass using PED's have led to disaster. The old school PC idea's are what interest me. Hypertrophy is not what motivates me anymore, but I am still fascinated by how there were so many different types of training used to achieve it; speed reps, pumping/muscle spinning, slow heavy duty reps via Mentzer, 100's, Bulgarian daily training, etc. I'll be looking into Dietz's TriPhasic training as well. file:///C:/Users/BigBubbaB/Downloads/2018_Thursday_Cal_Dietz_PDF_Copy.pdf I have it the manuals section. Ok, got it. Thanks!
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Post by moxohol on Nov 13, 2021 18:08:33 GMT
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Nov 13, 2021 18:59:36 GMT
I do heavy partials for lateral raises and rear delt raises. I have a problem shoulder that makes full range lateral raises difficult but I can get a good shoulder workout with heavy partials. I saw John Meadows recommending them on his Youtube channel. He explains where he got this tip from for partial rear delt raises in the video below at about 2:22 minutes in. This one has partial lateral raises at 1:00.
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Post by Michael on Nov 14, 2021 1:41:48 GMT
Ditillo was a beast, as his trainer, Deszo Ban. Left ventricle hypertrophy is common among dudes like this. It's just asking for cardiac arrest like what happened to Rich Piana. Is this caused by being over weight or lifting heavy?
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Post by Michael on Nov 14, 2021 1:44:16 GMT
I do heavy partials for lateral raises and rear delt raises. I have a problem shoulder that makes full range lateral raises difficult but I can get a good shoulder workout with heavy partials. I saw John Meadows recommending them on his Youtube channel. He explains where he got this tip from for partial rear delt raises in the video below at about 2:22 minutes in. This one has partial lateral raises at 1:00. I do regular side lateral raises and rear delt raises but I have been experimenting with heavy partials on both. I also got these from John Meadows.
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Post by moxohol on Nov 14, 2021 1:57:55 GMT
Left ventricle hypertrophy is common among dudes like this. It's just asking for cardiac arrest like what happened to Rich Piana. Is this caused by being over weight or lifting heavy? Neither. Paul Anderson & Doug Hepburn were champion lifters from the 1950s. Both were natural heavyweights who lived well into their 60s. Anderson died at 61 of Brights Disease that he had struggled with since childhood. Left ventricle hypertrophy is a common side effect of long term steroid use. Arnold had valve replacement or a bypass in 1997 due to his documented steroid use most likely. Arnold stated it was due to a congenital defect. MEH?
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Post by Michael on Nov 14, 2021 2:11:28 GMT
Is this caused by being over weight or lifting heavy? Neither. Paul Anderson & Doug Hepburn were champion lifters from the 1950s. Both were natural heavyweights who lived well into their 60s. Anderson died at 61 of Brights Disease that he had struggled with since childhood. Left ventricle hypertrophy is a common side effect of long term steroid use. Arnold had valve replacement or a bypass in 1997 due to his documented steroid use most likely. Arnold stated it was due to a congenital defect. MEH? Oh ok, learned something, thanks. I thought I heard it was from heavy lifting, that's why I asked. Makes no sense for Arnold to lie, his steroid use was pretty much known.
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