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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 21, 2021 15:57:29 GMT
.... Cable ties. Seriously mikey ? Can you not distinguish between handy cable ties carried in a vehicle, or carried en-person to the riot, in full view ? Why would anybody carry cable ties to a riot/protest for any other reason but restraining somebody ? Holding up their socks, perhaps ? ...... Could you post the video or pic that clearly shows this in full view then? Thanks. I haven't seen that one. I see. So you're saying that it had nothing to do with what they knew to be true, but that, like the BLM and Antifa, they were stupid enough to believe that they were immune to the virus while protesting the vote fraud? And, why then were the nice people wearing masks protesting with them, m8, if they didn't believe? I watched it on live feed, remember? I saw the personal interactions of masked and unmasked and from what I saw and heard from the many hours of watching, it was plain that no one was wearing a mask or not wearing a mask because of their desire to protest the election fraud.
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Post by macky on Jun 21, 2021 21:04:24 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riots-zip-ties-larry-brock-eric-munchel-arrested/ Cable ties. Google 'capitol rioters seen carrying cable ties' or similar. www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence Scan the pics and you can certainly see some of the wanted wearing masks, but a great number are not. And some are wearing their mask only some of the time, as other photos of them show with the mask lowered, or off. "I see. So you're saying that it had nothing to do with what they knew to be true, but that, like the BLM and Antifa, they were stupid enough to believe that they were immune to the virus while protesting the vote fraud? And, why then were the nice people wearing masks protesting with them, m8, if they didn't believe? I watched it on live feed, remember? I saw the personal interactions of masked and unmasked and from what I saw and heard from the many hours of watching, it was plain that no one was wearing a mask or not wearing a mask because of their desire to protest the election fraud." Your convoluted reasoning re the masks does not detract from the plain fact that many of those that were there, and engaging in violent actions which can only be interpreted as a desire to prevent the legitimate election from being ratified were not wearing masks. Others were. The CV thing is irrelevant. What you were watching is probably the whole thing, which as I've said included many protesters who were there just to protest, and had no intention of entering the building or engaging in violence. Many WERE, as the photos indicate, and they are still at large apparently, and wanted for questioning etc by the FBI. I hope they get them all, then the peaceful protesters can be vindicated instead of being lumped together with the Trump supporters, some of whom have said they were there at Trump's bidding. Trump's involvement was indicated strongly by the vote of 57 vs 43 to convict. It's a pity convoluted American laws such as plea bargaining etc let so many serious criminals off the hook. That Trump was still president at the time shows just how low American politics has become. An insurrectionist riot based on the Big Lie that the election was stolen. No wonder crazy lunacy like QAnon gets traction in the States. Margorie Greene for example.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 22, 2021 15:56:17 GMT
Wow! You're right! Lots of pics of some unidentifiable, ostentatiously displaying his cable tie cuffs for photo ops. Good show! We already know there were paid bad actors in addition to the riotous antifa Trump support imposters. No surprise that, not only did they not try to hide something that they would have known was unacceptable in that venue, they made sure everyone would see it. Smoke and mirrors, no doubt.
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Post by macky on Jun 22, 2021 20:04:22 GMT
I've said before that agents provocateur no doubt infiltrate every group and make covert trouble for said group, no matter who thy are.
The plain facts have been put before you, that no matter who those violent rioters represented, I hope they get the lot and charge them. The bulk of the protesters that day (by your own words) were peaceful and orderly and they deserve to have the democratic decency to be vindicated by the violent rioters all being rounded up, charged and jailed if applicable.
Whoever the hell they were. If they were antifa, then treat them the same as the Trump supporters. Violent rioters are violent rioters. I don't know why you persist in trying to sideline the facts in an apparent attempt to exempt known Trump supporters from the violence. They were there too. If there were stooges, so what ?
And you ignore the underlying implications of the 57 vs 43 vote for Trump's conviction. It was an attack on American democratic electoral process, and there is nothing you can say that alters that plain fact.
Trying to minimize Trump supporters from the scene by roping in antifa and possible stooges and all that is irrelevant. I'm prepared to believe you that antifa were there too. So charge the lot of 'em.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 26, 2021 14:27:56 GMT
"Qanon" I have a friend who was into "Q" (the real deal was never "Qanon", BTW, so not talking about those juvenile delinquents) and would send me something now and then, but I didn't understand it and never dug into it. I don't know why I didn't, but there is so much factual info that can be gleaned and easily understood that I just didn't need any cryptic messages to decipher. A bit too dramatic for my taste. Anyway, he told me recently that "Q" is/was DJTrump. Perhaps that explains the cryptic, staccato incoherency of the "Q" posts on whatever platform they appeared?
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Post by macky on Jul 26, 2021 19:22:12 GMT
From what I understand, Trump is known as Q+ in the QAnon circle. Not sure.
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Post by mr potatohead on Aug 9, 2021 23:58:12 GMT
From the Larken and Amanda Rose youtube channel (& The Rose Channel website). Movie (and animated short title): The Jones Plantation A rant about narcissistic sociopathic parasites, January 7, 2021: June 24, 2021, "Use Your Words":
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Post by moxohol on Aug 10, 2021 0:37:15 GMT
I don't wear a suit. Key words "..total income tax collected by the federal government." Technically correct, but....... The SRich don't pay tax on money earned outside America, and therefore their investments are "outsourced" as well. So the SRich effectively keep a large part of their total earnings out of the American economy except for what is earned inside the homeland. It's perfectly simple. Their total income is not counted for by the US tax dept. The SRich shift their money around the world for the lowest country's tax rate they can find. The US govt can't tax it because it was earned in another country that the US govt has no jurisdiction over. In addition, a CEO who picks up 17 million per year should be paying 50% + in tax. Why not ? If 8.5 million a year is not enough, then his lifestyle is far too much. America wasn't built on Wall Street and the SRich. The Middle Class and the Workers at the front-end built it. Sorry but ur completely wrong. If u travel on an American passport then u are subject to an earnings tax overseas. Doesn't matter if u are paid in domestic currency either. U gotta pay up. USA is the only country that requires income filings for income earned overseas. If u got a canuck or NZ passport then it's a different story.
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Post by macky on Aug 10, 2021 4:46:42 GMT
I don't wear a suit. Key words "..total income tax collected by the federal government." Technically correct, but....... The SRich don't pay tax on money earned outside America, and therefore their investments are "outsourced" as well. So the SRich effectively keep a large part of their total earnings out of the American economy except for what is earned inside the homeland. It's perfectly simple. Their total income is not counted for by the US tax dept. The SRich shift their money around the world for the lowest country's tax rate they can find. The US govt can't tax it because it was earned in another country that the US govt has no jurisdiction over. In addition, a CEO who picks up 17 million per year should be paying 50% + in tax. Why not ? If 8.5 million a year is not enough, then his lifestyle is far too much. America wasn't built on Wall Street and the SRich. The Middle Class and the Workers at the front-end built it. Sorry but ur completely wrong. If u travel on an American passport then u are subject to an earnings tax overseas. Doesn't matter if u are paid in domestic currency either. U gotta pay up. USA is the only country that requires income filings for income earned overseas. If u got a canuck or NZ passport then it's a different story. Could be, technically. But since we're talking about the Super-rich, then google 'how do rich americans get out of paying tax on foreign country earnings' There's plenty of ways the billionaires get out of paying their fair share of taxes. www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/06/10/propublica-tax-leak-irs-files-show-how-billionaires-pay-low-tax/7639768002/
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Post by mr potatohead on Aug 10, 2021 12:51:18 GMT
It seems to me that the slave owners would not pay what the slaves pay and may actually gain from the deal.
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Post by macky on Aug 10, 2021 18:46:03 GMT
It seems to me that the slave owners would not pay what the slaves pay and may actually gain from the deal. Did they ever, mikey ?
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Post by moxohol on Aug 11, 2021 5:52:23 GMT
Sorry but ur completely wrong. If u travel on an American passport then u are subject to an earnings tax overseas. Doesn't matter if u are paid in domestic currency either. U gotta pay up. USA is the only country that requires income filings for income earned overseas. If u got a canuck or NZ passport then it's a different story. Could be, technically. But since we're talking about the Super-rich, then google 'how do rich americans get out of paying tax on foreign country earnings' There's plenty of ways the billionaires get out of paying their fair share of taxes. www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/06/10/propublica-tax-leak-irs-files-show-how-billionaires-pay-low-tax/7639768002/It's called a loophole & you'd take advantage of 'em too if u were in that earning bracket unless u are a multi-million non-profit entity like the Red Cross & the like. Then u only have to give 10% of ur actual total donations towards the cause u promote according to IRS & CRA regulations.
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Post by macky on Aug 11, 2021 19:50:35 GMT
It's called a loophole & you'd take advantage of 'em too if u were in that earning bracket unless u are a multi-million non-profit entity like the Red Cross & the like. Then u only have to give 10% of ur actual total donations towards the cause u promote according to IRS & CRA regulations. You can place me into any one of several speculative positions you like. The plain facts are that the super-rich do NOT pay their fair share of taxes (whether legal or not) and the American wealth is approx. one third owned by 1% of the population, the next third by the following 9%, and the the last third spread out over the 90% remaining. In any country of the world where military takeover isn't happening (yet) wealth disparity is one of the prime causes of civil unrest (Cuba, South Africa etc). The rampant and predatory capitalism that has been the modus operandi of the American industrial big money since at least the early 20th century has been warned about for decades, and the off-shoring of American employment by American multinationals to countries that are (on the face of it) politically opposed to "freedom and demahcracy" is an in-your-face example of parasitical behaviour that those wealth-proportion figures demonstrate. It's essentially eating the American economy from within, gutting the American workforce and handing the jobs over to dollar-a-day sweatshop labour in India and the Far East, China etc. Since the US govt is controlled by Big Money, which is made worse by right-wing gun-toting cries for "less govt", the "democratic" vote means nothing, and America has been increasingly exposed to foreign influence in its elections, and day-to-day business. All the technical details re convoluted laws and taxation mean very little in the long run. Like Lincoln said, the only way America would ever fall is from within, and that is exactly what is happening as we speak.
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Post by moxohol on May 23, 2023 17:40:49 GMT
The dollar as a primary reserve currency is expiring & the de-dollarisation is in full swing. billfish now taking orders at the deli counter to make ends meet. News at 11! vm.tiktok.com/ZM2LqTCpS/
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