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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 21:39:34 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 31, 2021 21:43:35 GMT
The Pfeizer and Moderna Covid vaccines are the result of very hard, dedicated work by very experienced, dedicated professionals. The fact that they were ready in 10 months rather than the predicted minimum 18 months is nothing short of miraculous.
Again...I am listening to THE experts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 22:19:23 GMT
We are all welcome to our own opinions, but not our own facts. Dr Stefan Lanka has made statements of fact that can be referenced. Very plain. Very transparent. There is no evidence anywhere, no proof, of a virus that is contagious. None. You want to sort out truth? Cui bono? Not true. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN23335V
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Post by billfish on Jan 31, 2021 22:42:51 GMT
30 days later !
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Post by Magnus on Feb 1, 2021 1:14:14 GMT
The Pfeizer and Moderna Covid vaccines are the result of very hard, dedicated work by very experienced, dedicated professionals. The fact that they were ready in 10 months rather than the predicted minimum 18 months is nothing short of miraculous. Again...I am listening to THE experts.There are very legitimate "experts" standing on both sides of the fence here... This video has so far remained on youtube for over 6 days without being removed, and that 'is nothing short of miraculous'
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Post by Magnus on Feb 1, 2021 1:30:59 GMT
....please take the time to watch the very important video I posted above, otherwise your 'opinion' is based on pure naive & silly 'faith'
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 1, 2021 2:39:40 GMT
The Germ Theory is just that, a theory. It has never been proven. If you're going to prove that virus are contagious, start there.
Let's see the proof that contagious viruses exist.
Someone saying that so-and-so is wrong or right doesn't make it so. Saying that there are or are not contagious viruses doesn't make it so. I began not knowing that, whether viruses were real or not, was even a question, so it was possible that I'd been previously misinformed and I have been willing to be open to that possibility. When I started out last year, I wore a mask and nitrile gloves when I went out because I knew nothing about "contagious" virus. Probably around late March or April, I was over it having spent much time in research, going down a lot of rabbit holes, following up on mentions of experts in articles and videos. I don't care what the truth is, as long as I'm satisfied that it is, in fact, the truth.
Let's see the study that proves the Germ Theory Of Disease? (HINT: It does NOT exist, sorry, so don't drive yourself crazy trying to find it.)
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 1, 2021 2:55:25 GMT
OTOH, I have proven the Terrain Theory Of Disease in my own life, so I know from my own experience, saving my own life. Changing my diet was the biggest influence, by far. The body heals itself when it is in a relatively healthy condition and nutrition is key. This self-healing ability, as I understand it, is the process for which our cells make "virus" - to respond with other bodily functions that address toxic insults. There may be a real and quite toxic insult to our health, but it's not our "virus". Virus are actually manufactured by cells for healing, as I've understood from my studies.
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Post by Magnus on Feb 1, 2021 3:29:33 GMT
Again...I am listening to THE experts. There are very legitimate "experts" standing on both sides of the fence here... Doesn't Dr. Merritt look just like Scotty Kilmer ?...
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Post by macky on Feb 1, 2021 5:17:15 GMT
I personally don't think vaccines are the way to go, there are far too many variables and room for fuck ups by the inept. No, MERCK gave up on the vaccine's for very good reason. The truth is that vaccines rely too much on the unknown, so what should be done is what's already being done for the rich & famous who contract the virus, and that's the use of 'therapeutics' that are known to basically shut the virus down in record time, yet the infected person gets all the benefits of natural immunity afterward. This is what was used on former president Trump and Rudy Giuliani, along with Chris Christie, etc... This is what needs to be readily available for everyone... That's my view also. Give the population what they gave Trump and Rudy. They are both in the "vulnerable" age group, at least Trump is overweight, and they came out smelling like roses even though I wasn't there. So whatever they had, it worked well. We have just been informed in these last days of those who were previously in good health receiving the jab and dying shortly afterwards. So how come The People can't have what Trump etc had ? Is what they had only for the Elite ? I'll bet the PTB are not being jabbed, they'll get what Trump got.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Feb 1, 2021 6:18:32 GMT
Most of the population probably don't need to be given anything. Just ride it out like the flu.
If somebody has loads of health problems and they are not elderly then maybe they should consider trying to correct their health problems instead of sitting on their arse stuffing that fat face with crappy food while waiting for doctors to try and fix their health for them?
From what I've read about terrain theory is it's basically do your upmost to be healthy and you stand a much better chance of fighting off illness. You can't argue with that, m8s.
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Post by macky on Feb 1, 2021 8:24:48 GMT
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 Study on Ivermectin re the Covid thing. Daughter reports message from the States over the grapevine that this site vaers.hhs.gov/ has stopped reporting adverse vax reactions since 22 January. Some data has been apparently dug up onsite that reported 330 deaths in the US after vax, plus 9500 adverse reactions. The deaths were of those average age 76. It could have been a public report which lasted about half an hour before it was pulled. If true, no surprises there. Will keep the lads here updated as new stuff comes in. Like I said before, what's the use of a vaccine that kills the most vulnerable it was supposed to protect ? There is some discussion that the "one size fits all" amount of vaccine injected makes no distinction of the size of the recipient, their weight etc and has played a part in said deaths. If size is an issue, that would indicate that Bruce will be okay after his vax. Be interesting to note how Bruce feels after his second? one. Btw, one can still infect others and catch the Covid after vax. It apparently takes about 12 days before "immunity" sets in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 11:26:59 GMT
The Germ Theory is just that, a theory. It has never been proven. If you're going to prove that virus are contagious, start there. Let's see the proof that contagious viruses exist. Someone saying that so-and-so is wrong or right doesn't make it so. Saying that there are or are not contagious viruses doesn't make it so. I began not knowing that, whether viruses were real or not, was even a question, so it was possible that I'd been previously misinformed and I have been willing to be open to that possibility. When I started out last year, I wore a mask and nitrile gloves when I went out because I knew nothing about "contagious" virus. Probably around late March or April, I was over it having spent much time in research, going down a lot of rabbit holes, following up on mentions of experts in articles and videos. I don't care what the truth is, as long as I'm satisfied that it is, in fact, the truth. Let's see the study that proves the Germ Theory Of Disease? (HINT: It does NOT exist, sorry, so don't drive yourself crazy trying to find it.) If you want to educate yourself as to why you’ve bought into a daft pseudoscience then the references here are a good place to start. You’ve really entered flat earther territory though. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_denialism
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 1, 2021 12:29:47 GMT
In order to deny science, I would first need to see the science.
Please show the scientific proof that viruses are contagious, that viruses come from outside the body and cause disease.
I'm not denying that something made people sick with the flu in early 2020 and that it was labeled as CV-19, but what that "something" was remains obscured from popular view. I don't know what triggers virus into action, but the virus was a responder from within the body to whatever the health threat is, not a contagion. That's the gray area - that no one has proven specifically what is actually causing the symptoms. The health of the individual and their virus inhabiting them, along with the rest of their immune system, determined how sick they became and how easily they recovered. Your virus are not pathogens. They help to keep you alive when they function properly. Virus are manufactured by cells for that purpose, they do not reproduce on their own or replicate themselves because they are not alive. The word "virus" means "poison", which is the opposite of what they are. A misleading label affixed to something doesn't define what it does or how it acts on or in the body. A person could arbitrarily label a knife to be called a "flower", but it would still cut.
The references in that wiki article gave me some laughs, but I enjoyed the one about Bechamp and the one about "The Fallacious Germ Theory", so thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 12:41:58 GMT
In order to deny science, I would first need to see the science. Please show the scientific proof that viruses are contagious, that viruses cause disease.I'm not denying that something made people sick with the flu in early 2020 and that it was labeled as CV-19, but what that " something" is remains obscured from popular view. I don't know what triggered our virus into action, but the virus was a responder from within the body to the health threat, not a contagion. The health of the individual and their virus inhabiting them, along with the rest of their immune system, determined how sick they became and how easily they recovered. BTW, I enjoyed the referenced articles in that wikipedia/cancel culture propaganda about Bechamp and The Fallacious Germ Theory. Thanks, m8! Suggest you read up on Lister, Pastuer, and Koch if you want to start looking at the evidence as to why there is overwhelming scientific consensus on this.
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