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Post by macky on Aug 14, 2020 6:31:12 GMT
Baz I personally lost size whenever I did Isometrics by themselves. Losing size would probably be why I also lost weight. But everyone is different. If I use isometrics I prefer to do some kind of movement exercise in conjunction. I also seem to lose the ability to lift external weight which I need to do for my job. NASA came out with a study in 2013 with isometrics. Although, isometrics did arrest muscle & bone degradation which happens famously in space, it does not produce contractile proteins well as does dynamic exercise...blah, blah, blah. Do you know where I can access the NASA study, Mox ? Hope they didn't come to conclusions on a 6-second contraction for each body part, once a day.
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Post by moxohol on Aug 14, 2020 6:59:23 GMT
NASA came out with a study in 2013 with isometrics. Although, isometrics did arrest muscle & bone degradation which happens famously in space, it does not produce contractile proteins well as does dynamic exercise...blah, blah, blah. Do you know where I can access the NASA study, Mox ? Hope they didn't come to conclusions on a 6-second contraction for each body part, once a day. Frontiers | Comparisons of Resistance Training and “Cardio” Exercise Modalities as Countermeasures to Microgravity-Induced Physical Deconditioning: New Perspectives and Lessons Learned From Terrestrial Studies | Physiology www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2019.01150/full
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 8:15:47 GMT
Mohoxol i will look into that NAC mate thanks. My brother and sister have been addicted to crack and heroin since they was 15 years old and I got caught up in it too for a while before seeing sense . My brother is in and out of rehab and is currently trying to get clean . We all suffer with mental health issues as it runs in the family which I believe comes from my dads side in Belfast Ardoyne where they grew up in the 60s and 70s seeing violence and killings . My dad witnessed a man get his head blown off right next to him when he was 12 years old and he ended up joining the IRA along with my uncles where they seen and committed further devastation which I'm not proud of. Growing up as a kid with my dad was nothing short of a fuckin nightmare let's just put it like that .
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Post by jonrock on Aug 14, 2020 10:32:35 GMT
Mohoxol i will look into that NAC mate thanks. My brother and sister have been addicted to crack and heroin since they was 15 years old and I got caught up in it too for a while before seeing sense . My brother is in and out of rehab and is currently trying to get clean . We all suffer with mental health issues as it runs in the family which I believe comes from my dads side in Belfast Ardoyne where they grew up in the 60s and 70s seeing violence and killings . My dad witnessed a man get his head blown off right next to him when he was 12 years old and he ended up joining the IRA along with my uncles where they seen and committed further devastation which I'm not proud of. Growing up as a kid with my dad was nothing short of a fuckin nightmare let's just put it like that . Baz, you have courage to speak like that and to get better, man. Props to you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 13:07:57 GMT
Cheers jonrock i appreciate that mate.
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Post by brothersteve on Aug 14, 2020 21:25:16 GMT
I've been doing them only and REGULARLY for 19 years. For the 24 years prior to that I was into anything: DYNAFLEX, some Charles Atlas, but mostly followed weightlifting and bw exercises. When I went soley to TSC around 2002 my old injuries healed up. I felt and was strong in all natural body movements such as lifting vending machines for the business I had. I perform as extreme a contraction as possible in the positions where I get the tightest cramp (although I don't really cramp anymore except if I go several days without ding them) like Frank Rudolph Young advocated in his Yogametrics book and can be found in the DYNAFLEX, Matysek, and and Body Tone courses. I do them about 4 days a week and vary the static hold times with a minimum of 6 seconds. I occasionally (2-3 times a week) include the 8 exercises found in Ottley Coulters 1952 book about How to Do Strongman Stunts. I don't build the tension gradually, I move my bones into max contraction position and tighten up hard as possible. I first take a deep breath and then release air through pursed lips - NEVER holding my breath - as I contract hard as possible. I also like the mental/concentration feel. There is no pump but a cramp and a burn if held long. I feel so ALIVE after these. If I can't sleep I do some of these and then take deep breathes and find I fall asleep in minutes. If I do a second 10-12 second rep, I release the contraction and suck in air quickly filling lungs before contracting again. I rarely do more than 1 10 second TSC/workout. I'm 54, 6'1 and 218 lbs. currently. I don't care about measurements anymore and eat anything I want whenever I want (not often good and unlike my best younger weightlifting bw days in the past when I was fanatical - before marriage and kids). My cardio is the outdoor work I do, which is daily. I also do a modified Wim Hof deep breathing type exercises since Covid 19 started. Here are pics of me right now today, no pump obviously. Not great, but works for me and is something I do regularly - which is key for me. It said unable to upload pic, any suggestions? I'm not on Facebook or other social media.
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Post by macky on Aug 14, 2020 21:44:06 GMT
Mohoxol i will look into that NAC mate thanks. My brother and sister have been addicted to crack and heroin since they was 15 years old and I got caught up in it too for a while before seeing sense . My brother is in and out of rehab and is currently trying to get clean . We all suffer with mental health issues as it runs in the family which I believe comes from my dads side in Belfast Ardoyne where they grew up in the 60s and 70s seeing violence and killings . My dad witnessed a man get his head blown off right next to him when he was 12 years old and he ended up joining the IRA along with my uncles where they seen and committed further devastation which I'm not proud of. Growing up as a kid with my dad was nothing short of a fuckin nightmare let's just put it like that . Baz, you have courage to speak like that and to get better, man. Props to you. Endorsed. Shows a lotta courage.
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Post by macky on Aug 14, 2020 21:54:29 GMT
I've been doing them only and REGULARLY for 19 years. For the 24 years prior to that I was into anything: DYNAFLEX, some Charles Atlas, but mostly followed weightlifting and bw exercises. When I went soley to TSC around 2002 my old injuries healed up. I felt and was strong in all natural body movements such as lifting vending machines for the business I had. I perform as extreme a contraction as possible in the positions where I get the tightest cramp (although I don't really cramp anymore except if I go several days without ding them) like Frank Rudolph Young advocated in his Yogametrics book and can be found in the DYNAFLEX, Matysek, and and Body Tone courses. I do them about 4 days a week and vary the static hold times with a minimum of 6 seconds. I occasionally (2-3 times a week) include the 8 exercises found in Ottley Coulters 1952 book about How to Do Strongman Stunts. I don't build the tension gradually, I move my bones into max contraction position and tighten up hard as possible. I first take a deep breath and then release air through pursed lips - NEVER holding my breath - as I contract hard as possible. I also like the mental/concentration feel. There is no pump but a cramp and a burn if held long. I feel so ALIVE after these. If I can't sleep I do some of these and then take deep breathes and find I fall asleep in minutes. If I do a second 10-12 second rep, I release the contraction and suck in air quickly filling lungs before contracting again. I rarely do more than 1 10 second TSC/workout. I'm 54, 6'1 and 218 lbs. currently. I don't care about measurements anymore and eat anything I want whenever I want (not often good and unlike my best younger weightlifting bw days in the past when I was fanatical - before marriage and kids). My cardio is the outdoor work I do, which is daily. I also do a modified Wim Hof deep breathing type exercises since Covid 19 started. Here are pics of me right now today, no pump obviously. Not great, but works for me and is something I do regularly - which is key for me. It said unable to upload pic, any suggestions? I'm not on Facebook or other social media. This is an isometric course in itself. And it is unique in that brothersteve has carried isometrics on exclusively for 19 years straight. It is an endorsement of what a single exercise protocol (in this case isometrics) can do for someone who is resolute and sensible at the same time, who is not swayed by dietary fads, and most notably has a strong mental component that is obviously emotionally satisfying in his isometric routine(s). And is not perpetually consumed by the tape measure.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Aug 14, 2020 22:08:24 GMT
It said unable to upload pic, any suggestions? I'm not on Facebook or other social media. Upload to postimages.org/ and then post a link here.
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Post by brothersteve on Aug 15, 2020 16:03:31 GMT
Dave Reslo, Thank you for the info....here I am.
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Post by brothersteve on Aug 15, 2020 16:10:46 GMT
I've been doing isometrics for about 15 years and the main thing I use them for is for building explosive power and strength for self protection reasons as I live in a shitty area and seem to always be getting into shit like last week when I had a gun pulled on me but yeah anyway back to your point, I have never personally seen any muscle building results come from doing isometrics just by themselves and I have tried all different holding times. I would also like to get other peoples take on their results from doing isometrics! I love the mental benefits I get from isometrics also as they seem to really relax me , reduce stress and tension and as i already said they make my punches, kicks and movement much more explosive. A book I have based my workouts on for many years is Charles Bronson's Solitary fitness, check it out ! I also feel reduced tension/stress from doing these and they help me back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night from nightmares. The deep breathing helps me as well. I breathe deeply and slowly and fully. As well, I also noticed the explosiveness aspect of my strikes especially when I have set my max contraction position for the muscle I am working and then tense as hard as possible immediately - no build up to max like others do. That sudden jolt seems to aid me most for explosive power.
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Post by brothersteve on Aug 15, 2020 16:21:05 GMT
Mohoxol i will look into that NAC mate thanks. My brother and sister have been addicted to crack and heroin since they was 15 years old and I got caught up in it too for a while before seeing sense . My brother is in and out of rehab and is currently trying to get clean . We all suffer with mental health issues as it runs in the family which I believe comes from my dads side in Belfast Ardoyne where they grew up in the 60s and 70s seeing violence and killings . My dad witnessed a man get his head blown off right next to him when he was 12 years old and he ended up joining the IRA along with my uncles where they seen and committed further devastation which I'm not proud of. Growing up as a kid with my dad was nothing short of a fuckin nightmare let's just put it like that . We are all shaped by our circumstances and environments. The less desirable aspects do lead one to outlets/addictions not often conducive to favorable activities. Some do drugs, booze, porn, food, work, etc. I found at a young age I had an addictive personality, although it was for junk food. I was anemic and hated the taste of good food. Lucky that was all, but I know and feel the constant (even at 54) pangs for chocolate, ice cream and pizza and cannot stop until I have my fill. I was lucky not to get into things like drugs and alcohol, but I did get into working out, Judo for some time, and amateur boxing for less time. What I think, and I'm no professional for this, is that FOR ME I avoided one addiction for another. I enjoy fitness and nutrition info from doing it and reading about it, from all angles. Each day can be a battle, but having a 'new' hobby may help.....just saying. Best regards to you in your journey.
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Post by moxohol on Aug 15, 2020 17:56:55 GMT
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Post by moxohol on Sept 30, 2020 6:55:16 GMT
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Post by josepz on Sept 30, 2020 8:35:44 GMT
I've been doing isometrics for about 15 years and the main thing I use them for is for building explosive power and strength for self protection reasons as I live in a shitty area and seem to always be getting into shit like last week when I had a gun pulled on me but yeah anyway back to your point, I have never personally seen any muscle building results come from doing isometrics just by themselves and I have tried all different holding times. I would also like to get other peoples take on their results from doing isometrics! I love the mental benefits I get from isometrics also as they seem to really relax me , reduce stress and tension and as i already said they make my punches, kicks and movement much more explosive. A book I have based my workouts on for many years is Charles Bronson's Solitary fitness, check it out ! I switched to isometrics almost exclusively more than 4 years ago and never looked back. At first I combined self-resistance isometrics with several variations of push-ups, planks, bodyweight squats and hindu squats. Then introduced muscle control isometrics (or tension exercises, or maxalding, or whatever you want to call them), and I eventually dropped the push-ups and the self-resistance isos. Push-ups had become easy, even diamonds, and I felt they weren't doing anything for me anymore, plus they were annoying my right shoulder. Nowadays I only do the muscle control exercises and lots of bodyweight squats, plus walking. The thing with isos, especially with self-resistance and muscle control, is that they hardly feel like exercising, and that almost everyone at first feels they're losing muscle mass. That's what I thought at first; I saw myself a bit smaller. But both my wife and my measurements said otherwise. I gained a little bit of size, and lost a noticeable amount of fat, and probably that's why I saw myself smaller. Now whenever I occasionally try to pull some sets of push-ups to test myself, they're still easy, so I haven't lost strength, but the next day I'm sore as hell! Therefore I've lost the endurance to perform several sets of push-ups regularly, but that doesn't worry me in the least. Just my 2 cents.
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