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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 16, 2020 9:04:59 GMT
..... the disproportionate rate of black deaths as well as the circumstances, in which white people are more likely to be let off (not be murdered) in similar situations. .... Sorry macky, there are no statistics to back up this claim without manipulative spin of the data.
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Post by denis on Jun 16, 2020 9:12:00 GMT
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Post by denis on Jun 16, 2020 9:13:38 GMT
Lot of preaching to the choir in the recent posts. Where's Macky when you need some thought diversity, Denis needs a companion. Reporting for duty pierini. Mags : "Did you watch the video ?... The cop (unfortunately) had every right to shoot that dumb ass. Anyone who disputes that is an idiot." Okay, I'm an idiot. The cop didn't have any right at all. The police were incompetent. The guy was too much for the two of them, obviously, and when one of the officers was thrown over the guy during the struggle he should have immediately got to his feet, drawn his weapon, and advise the guy that he was under gunpoint and to lay on his front with his hands behind his back so the officers could cuff him. Any sudden leap to his feet to run, a shot in the leg no question. What did they do ? Keep on struggling with him and when the guy ran off tried to chase him. Is that sensible ? They had the guy's car and it would only have been a matter of time before they turned up in force at his home. There's the matter of the sobriety test as well. When someone is required to undergo a test, his license is taken from him and if he fails, not given back until he is in the station and charged. That's it. They've got his car and his ID. The guy was obviously no threat to the officers' safety, he was unarmed except for the taser which they should NEVER have allowed him to get his mitts on, and he was shot running away, not lunging at the officers. That's murder. Plain and simple. He wasn't some holdup thug with a shotgun, or druggie lunging at the police with a blade. Once again, gun-happy America. DA will announce charges on wednesday. Only a fuckwit wouldn't see it as murder
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Post by macky on Jun 16, 2020 9:24:51 GMT
..... the disproportionate rate of black deaths as well as the circumstances, in which white people are more likely to be let off (not be murdered) in similar situations. .... Sorry macky, there are no statistics to back up this claim without manipulative spin of the data. I didn't say that mikey, m8.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 16, 2020 9:45:45 GMT
Sorry macky, there are no statistics to back up this claim without manipulative spin of the data. I didn't say that mikey, m8. No, you didn't. My mistake. I apologize.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 16, 2020 9:52:30 GMT
Where was the white community outrage about THIS from 2015? White people didn't protest around the globe, nor did antifa step into it to provoke death and destruction or suggest defunding police forces. Don't be stupid. apparently it has to do with the disproportionate rate of black deaths as well as the circumstances, in which white people are more likely to be let off (not be murdered) in similar situations. Blacks have created the movement though, maybe white should do the same www.statista.com/statistics/1123070/police-shootings-rate-ethnicity-us/" White Privilege" is BS. Here's a more complete picture without the dumbed-down, cherry-picked spin:
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Post by denis on Jun 16, 2020 10:02:20 GMT
That’s a seperate topic though
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 16, 2020 10:09:01 GMT
No, it's the same topic. Your linked graph supports the FBI data and vice-versa. Almost three times more blacks shot than whites ~ almost three times more black violent crime than whites.
No disparity when you look at the whole picture. People need to dump their media-incited emotions and discuss facts, get to the full truth.
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Post by denis on Jun 16, 2020 10:22:38 GMT
i found this from theroot.com
"1. It’s a list of arrests, not convictions.
2. We know that blacks are convicted of drug offences at 3.7 times the rate for white people even though drug use is almost identical across racial demographics.
3. We know that crime is associated with poverty. And blacks are twice as likely to live in poverty than whites (20.7% to 10.1%).
4. False convictions for murder are 7x more likely for black defendants than white defendants. The risk of convicting an innocent defendant is even higher for a black defendant when there is a white victim. And where an innocent person has been exonerated, police misconduct is 22% more likely when the defendant is black."
"Those statistics are arrest statistics-not convictions so what you have proven is you aren’t even smart enough to interpret data. There are around 36,000,000 black people in America. Assuming 66% of those violent crime arrests result in an actual conviction, that would mean 99.72% of black Americans are law abiding, non-violent citizens. "
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Post by Magnus on Jun 16, 2020 14:31:41 GMT
Reporting for duty pierini. Mags : "Did you watch the video ?... The cop (unfortunately) had every right to shoot that dumb ass. Anyone who disputes that is an idiot." Okay, I'm an idiot. The cop didn't have any right at all. The police were incompetent. The guy was too much for the two of them, obviously, and when one of the officers was thrown over the guy during the struggle he should have immediately got to his feet, drawn his weapon, and advise the guy that he was under gunpoint and to lay on his front with his hands behind his back so the officers could cuff him. Any sudden leap to his feet to run, a shot in the leg no question. What did they do ? Keep on struggling with him and when the guy ran off tried to chase him. Is that sensible ? They had the guy's car and it would only have been a matter of time before they turned up in force at his home. There's the matter of the sobriety test as well. When someone is required to undergo a test, his license is taken from him and if he fails, not given back until he is in the station and charged. That's it. They've got his car and his ID. The guy was obviously no threat to the officers' safety, he was unarmed except for the taser which they should NEVER have allowed him to get his mitts on, and he was shot running away, not lunging at the officers. That's murder. Plain and simple. He wasn't some holdup thug with a shotgun, or druggie lunging at the police with a blade. Once again, gun-happy America. DA will announce charges on wednesday. Only a fuckwit wouldn't see it as murder Only a "fuckwit" resists arrest and then points a taser at a police officer. Here's how this works for the simple minded out there of all races...
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Post by denis on Jun 16, 2020 14:40:17 GMT
Nope. Sorry. He should be charged with murder. Cops are clearly very dangerous then
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Post by stormshadow on Jun 16, 2020 16:00:20 GMT
Might as well relate my experiences. 1 - I was asleep at night in the bedroom of a third floor apartment in Baltimore. The bedroom window overlooked an alley. I was awoken by a girl's screams coming from the alley below. I jumped into my jeans, rushed into the kitchen, grabbed a knife, bolted out the door and down three flights of stairs. I remember as I passed one apartment, I heard a woman's voice from behind a door say, "don't go out there." I rushed out onto the sidewalk and ran to the corner of the alley and then up the alley where there was some black guy standing over a white girl on the ground. I rushed him and when he saw me coming his eyes got big as saucers. He got into a position as though he was going to fight me, but after a few seconds he turned and ran up the alley. A cop car suddenly pulled into the alley, lights flashing. When the cops got out of the car I dropped the knife and told them what had happened. They got the girl up on her feet - a drugged out hippie who was whining, "He was hurting me." One of the cops said, "She knows that guy." Later I thought, "Damn. I could have gotten myself killed over some dumb drugged out cunt." 2 - I was walking up Grant Street in San Francisco's North Beach area (for robert's benefit) when I passed a couple of scraggly homeless guys. As I passed them, I caught from the corner of my eye one of them gesturing towards me. As I walked on, I heard footsteps coming up behind me. I had my knife out in a flash and spun around. The guy stopped dead in his tracks, turned around and headed back down the street to his buddy. 3. I was standing at the bus stop in front of the Maritime Museum in San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf. Across the street the sidewalk was thronged with people in front of shops and restaurants. I saw a black guy running through the crowds and I somehow guessed that he wasn't out jogging. Sure as shit, I saw a purse in his hand. A ways back was a girl looking distressed half heartedly running after him. He turned a corner and ran up a deserted side street. I took off after him. He got to a parked car full of black guys and started to jump in to the front seat. I had my knife out and I grabbed hold of the car door and pulled it open and leaned in with my knife as though I was going to start stabbing. They all let out a collective yelp. The purse was sitting right there at the edge of the seat, so I grabbed it and stepped back. The guy behind the steering wheel starts saying, "What you doin', nigger?! What's goin' on?!", as though he had nothing to do with this. As they sat in the car, I had the wherewithall to walk behind the car and memorize the licence plate. And then they took off like a bullet. About that time that girl came around the corner and I gave her her purse. We talked for a minute and then some guy in a jacket and tie came up to us and identified himself as a store detective, and he wrote down the license number. He also took our names and phone numbers. A couple days later I received a phone call from the police asking me to come in and view a lineup. He gave me a date and time to be there. When I got there the girl was there. We viewed the guys standing in the lineup, but no one there was anyone from that car. The girl didn't recognize anyone. When we told a cop this he said that was good because he said a group of guys had just been picked up and he was pretty sure it was them. That was that. Never heard from the cops after that.
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Post by stormshadow on Jun 16, 2020 16:03:19 GMT
Bruce your story is heroic in my eyes and I say with zero sarcasm and total truth. The opposite of what happened here. Famous and sad case
You did not suffer from Bystander effect. Expect no less from combat Marine.
Might as well relate my experiences. 1 - I was asleep at night in the bedroom of a third floor apartment in Baltimore. The bedroom window overlooked an alley. I was awoken by a girl's screams coming from the alley below. I jumped into my jeans, rushed into the kitchen, grabbed a knife, bolted out the door and down three flights of stairs. I remember as I passed one apartment, I heard a woman's voice from behind a door say, "don't go out there." I rushed out onto the sidewalk and ran to the corner of the alley and then up the alley where there was some black guy standing over a white girl on the ground. I rushed him and when he saw me coming his eyes got big as saucers. He got into a position as though he was going to fight me, but after a few seconds he turned and ran up the alley. A cop car suddenly pulled into the alley, lights flashing. When the cops got out of the car I dropped the knife and told them what had happened. They got the girl up on her feet - a drugged out hippie who was whining, "He was hurting me." One of the cops said, "She knows that guy." Later I thought, "Damn. I could have gotten myself killed over some dumb drugged out cunt."
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Post by billfish on Jun 16, 2020 16:09:09 GMT
Some of you guys posting here don't live in the U.S. and as such don't have a clear picture of what takes place in black areas.....very violent, high crime areas Not caused by anyone other than blacks themselves.....the biggest threat to black people is other black people Here's an idea.....petition your governments to take in the beleaguered blacks from the U.S. and see firsthand what they are really like You will be surprised to find that the image of 'The Huxtables' is not an accurate representation of life in black communities....and it's not the white man coming in and causing all the problems. There have been numerous initiatives to help the black community, over a TRILLION dollars spent on anti-poverty programs aimed at the blacks, free college educations, blacks taken before other races for college, job contracts that favor black contractors over others etc etc etc. And one more thing I forgot...."affirmative action" a set of practices created in 1963 to prevent discrimination against blacks. Add to that, the 1965 Civil Rights Bill......the list goes on and on. If more blacks are in jail than other races, you can bet your life that they belong there...... most are repeat offenders. OK....put in your requests for the blacks to come to your country, or move to a black community in the U.S. because if you have never been among them, you really don't know what's going on. You will get the picture fast
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Post by billfish on Jun 16, 2020 16:10:42 GMT
Nope. Sorry. He should be charged with murder. Cops are clearly very dangerous then Put yourself in the cop's shoes....very easy to judge from the sidelines
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