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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 6, 2020 11:54:35 GMT
Today is the 76th anniversary of D-Day, the largest amphibious invasion in history and the beginning of the liberation of Europe from the Nazis. It will probably get very little press as 76 isn't as significant a number as 75 was in 2019 and lots of other things are going on right now that require attention. Many good men from a variety of places died that day to pull it off. Not many that survived it are still alive. If the other side would have won, the current rioters body count (if they had the balls to even try it) may have gotten as high, though we would of course never heard about it. None of them will think about that today, so I just had to say it.
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Jun 6, 2020 13:34:45 GMT
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Jun 6, 2020 19:50:45 GMT
Post by Dave Reslo on Jun 6, 2020 19:50:45 GMT
There's been a lot of stuff on TV about the war, what with the anniversary of VE day. Saw some interesting interviews with people at Dunkirk, for instance. There was a heartwarming interview in the news with a guy speaking to the son of someone who died beside him at D-Day. If you're into that sort of sappy thing the whole video is three minutes long, gets going after the first minute. www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52949391/d-day-anniversary-emotional-surprise-for-veteran-in-lockdown
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Jun 6, 2020 20:20:15 GMT
Post by macky on Jun 6, 2020 20:20:15 GMT
Today is the 76th anniversary of D-Day, the largest amphibious invasion in history and the beginning of the liberation of Europe from the Nazis. It will probably get very little press as 76 isn't as significant a number as 75 was in 2019 and lots of other things are going on right now that require attention. Many good men from a variety of places died that day to pull it off. Not many that survived it are still alive. If the other side would have won, the current rioters body count (if they had the balls to even try it) may have gotten as high, though we would of course never heard about it. None of them will think about that today, so I just had to say it. If the other side had won, there would never have been any riots to begin with. Either they would have been "militarized' and squandered on the battlefields, totally focused on "Deutschland uber alles" at home making munitions, or ended up in a concentration camp or a euthanization centre, according to their race, religion or sexual orientation. Or state of mental health. Meanwhile for international corporates it was business as usual, supplying both sides with resources. The nazis were well thought of in the thirties, Ford receiving one of the German Eagles awarded by Hitler in 1938, Hitler himself Time magazine's Man Of The Year. Yes we should remember those who provided the man-power and their lives to help push the nazi war machine back from the beaches and gain ground for further landings of men and equipment. They are the ones who provide the cannon fodder for the leaders in war, and the disposable labour in peacetime. For some here, including two of my grand-uncles, they are not forgotten.
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Jun 7, 2020 14:37:19 GMT
Post by Dave Reslo on Jun 7, 2020 14:37:19 GMT
Hitler himself Time magazine's Man Of The Year. Agree broadly with what you've said, although if somehow the Germans had won I'm not sure if they'd be maintaining the sort of tight controls over the world we imagine. But the Time Man of the Year thing is a bit of a complicated one; it's not supposed to mean someone is well thought of but rather that they are a prominent figure in the US media. For example Wallis Simpson was Man of the Year, Bill Clinton was Man of the Year once when he became president and again when he was impeached.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 7, 2020 14:55:16 GMT
Meanwhile, here in America, Bernie Sanders' Foreign Policy Adviser commemorated the 76th anniversary of D-Day by describing it as the “largest Antifa operation in history.” What a slap in the face to the soldiers and sailors from our greatest generation.
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Jun 7, 2020 22:13:16 GMT
Post by macky on Jun 7, 2020 22:13:16 GMT
Hitler himself Time magazine's Man Of The Year. Agree broadly with what you've said, although if somehow the Germans had won I'm not sure if they'd be maintaining the sort of tight controls over the world we imagine. But the Time Man of the Year thing is a bit of a complicated one; it's not supposed to mean someone is well thought of but rather that they are a prominent figure in the US media. For example Wallis Simpson was Man of the Year, Bill Clinton was Man of the Year once when he became president and again when he was impeached. Yes I'm sure Germany would never have had the resources outside Europe and possibly the western side of Russia etc, to maintain tight control, although that may have extended into the Middle East and some parts of Africa where there were those that supported the Nazis. And of course, the Nazi methods of brutality and undemocratic practices, would have helped maintain control, as always. I also seriously doubt that although there was certainly anti-Semitism and support for "anti-communism" via the Nazis, both in America and especially in British high society and among the Royals (the real reason for King Edward's abdication) in the 30s, I am sure that if the extent of Hitler's regime via his camps which started with Dachau almost immediately after he came to power had been publicly known, Time magazine would have balked at making Hitler Man Of The Year in 1938. There were at least four concentration camps by 1938 in Germany, and many euthanasia centres for "deformed" children and young adults, and if that had been widely known, Time magazine would have faced a huge public outcry, I would imagine. Of course, that's only speculation.
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Jun 7, 2020 22:15:31 GMT
Post by macky on Jun 7, 2020 22:15:31 GMT
Meanwhile, here in America, Bernie Sanders' Foreign Policy Adviser commemorated the 76th anniversary of D-Day by describing it as the “largest Antifa operation in history.” What a slap in the face to the soldiers and sailors from our greatest generation. That shows how far from reality some of the public leaders and their advisors are in America. Suffering from Disney spells.....
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Jun 8, 2020 9:27:33 GMT
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