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Post by macky on Jan 4, 2021 8:50:35 GMT
I couldn't watch the videos mikey posted with the lady, and showing the camps. Even the empty camp shots angered me more than I believe is good for my health. I had to stop watching.
Had my family been in Europe during WW2, as of Romani descent, we probably would have ended up in one of them. There were 11 camps in France alone just for gypsies.
Remembering that the US whisked away some 1600-1800 top Nazis (Operation Paperclip) at least some of them such as von Braun and Strughold would have otherwise faced Nuremberg, is it timely to remember that not all of them would have been rocket scientists or physiologists such as Strughold (the "American Father Of Space Medicine")(Dachau).
Unethical experimentation both physical and psychiatric has a long history in the US. Any doubt about that just refer to MKUltra documents that survived Richard Helm's (head of CIA) orders to destroy all documentation of the extensive and long-running (20 years) secret experiments on US citizens that would have been regarded as wacko conspiracy theory had anyone tried to blow the whistle in the day.
Just another chapter in the utter thuggery that the CIA has indulged in over the years under the "noble" banner of "American security". The list is long, extensive, and a national disgrace.
Such programs as MKUltra (which wasn't the only one) have convinced me that ANYTHING is possible in the US, of unauthorized (except for secret US Govt approval) and unethical experiments on its People, BOTH black and white, and NOTHING is beyond imaginable.
Therefore the Covid 19 emergency vaccines raise a red flag warning, mentioned on here months ago, that such vaccines may be used to "influence" people's behaviour and subseptibility to suggestions that are not to their benefit, plus of course the overt "anti-social" herd mentality tagging of those that refuse said vaccine.
The PTB don't give two stuffs about the "ordinary" US citizen, even if they are of aeronautic engineer standard, and would readily use citizens to further their agenda for global domination.
The vaccines don't necessarily have to be the same for everyone. "They" could develop one for children, for elderly, for those with asthma etc. It is possible that the base vaccine could be the same to just a few restricted tests, simply to satisfy "quality enquiries" but have additives selected for their effects on various select groups of society.
The Nazis were selective, why not America. Eugenics has a long history in the US. American/Nazi interaction was prevalent in the 1930's, Hitler Time magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938, and Henry Ford receiving a German Eagle Cross award from Hitler about the same time. There are enough supremacists of one sort or another around today to provide impetus for such selective vaccinations, willingly carrying out the PTB's agenda, whether they know it or not.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 4, 2021 11:39:05 GMT
If watching the video is disturbing, don't watch it. Turn off the screen and just listen. Watching is not necessary to hear what she says.
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Post by macky on Jan 4, 2021 12:44:22 GMT
Okay I'll give it another crack late tomorrow.
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Post by macky on Jan 5, 2021 9:26:44 GMT
Having listened to most of Vera's first video, there's nothing surprising to me re the limited research I've done over the years. America has always engaged in unethical and publicly unknown experiments on various classes of citizens, and the Covid thing is another prime opportunity for experimentation by "corporate interests i.e. opportunity for more profits/power".
These various experiments have not only been carried out in America of course, but I suspect that most of them were "reporting" to American secret services and corporate interests, from other countries, at least of the Five Eyes Group.
My son-in-law was instrumental in getting the previously uninterested NZ govt of the day to hold an enquiry into increasing numbers of ex-mental hospital patients that were abused and experimented on, beginning to reveal their historical treatment at the hands of medical professionals.
Efforts are still underway to extradite a Dr Selwyn Leeks from Australia to face legal action in NZ for his "treatment" of children in his "care" e.g. ECT without anasthetics as a behaviour-controlling measure back about the same time MKUltra began to come to light in the US.
Two old computers that my son-in-law were using when he campaigned for govt enquiry into those historical abuses I found to be compromised by a virus/malware app. or whatever you call it.
Half of the virus cracked his password repeatedly i.e. every time he got on the computer, and the other half sent the info to an unknown address. Having had my phone tapped in the early 90's when Telecom was being privatized and sold off (the nerve network of the country), I have no reason not to suspect that the NZ govt was behind both, not all ministers aware of it, of course, but a pertinent few.
My view at the moment is that re Covid 19 in America (possibly elsewhere as well but the US being my prime interest) there are mostly genuine medical and logistics/governance professionals who believe they are doing the the right things to control a "rapidly expanding" virus. In amongst those there are unidentified individuals who are reporting back to an inner group of medical experts who themselves are reporting to the PTB, and who are engaged in the medical facets of "economic changes" designed to rake in the largely uncontrolled sectors of the economy, namely areas like the massive FOREX market.
Even MSM has lately reported medics/scientists stating that the vaccine can be easily altered to suit various conditions. I heard it on Aljazeera today. It's just sunk in. THAT's exactly what we've been speculating about earlier on, and just lately.
Remembering that the economy is the lifeblood of any nation, the ability to wage war depending on the dollar ultimately, the Fed Res largely outside of everyday govt control, the massive US Public and Total debt, etc etc, these "medical" experiments are only part of the total scene, which in my opinion is the establishment of a tighter inner fascist state, outwardly "democratic to the world", but controlled by the PTB ever more tightly, the more global resources are being used up, the more the global population expands.
While your Jan 6 rally is understandable, even if Trump ended up having a second term, he wouldn't be able to do much about it because for one, I don't think he is even aware of it in the first place. His mind doesn't expand to that level. It's focused on himself too much. I'm not criticizing him, it's just an observation.
Your previous claim that Trump is being ill-advised/misled may well be true, but on a much greater underlying level.
That's why your rally on Jan 6 is probably misplaced. Neither Biden nor Trump can do much, it's the PTB that call the shots in the background, another reason why Trump is gone on Jan 20.
This whole election-fraud thing is only a front, something to keep the People diverted from what is really happening, and what is to happen.
At the last, Trump is (and will be) likely used by the PTB as a scapegoat for the "present conditions" of America. His nature set him up for it. Trump has provided plenty of diversion for the People over his term but if you look back further, the problems in America were always there, and the economic disparity of Americans was a blinking red warning signal years ago, but that has now come to a saturation point.
We talked early on in this thread where control over the People would be ideally accomplished without military force, that vaccination would provide the ultimate invasive method. Perhaps Trump WAS advised not to take the Virus seriously so that it could spread around the US to alarming proportions. Trump being Trump, he simply accepted said advice and carried on with his golf, only reacting when his advice told him to mid-March ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 5, 2021 11:14:01 GMT
Not my rally. You've been misinformed.
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Post by macky on Jan 5, 2021 18:52:13 GMT
Not my rally. You've been misinformed. Here if we see/hear/are informed of someone's support for something, we simply take it as "there's". Re the rally, of course it's not "yours", but you are in solid support of it, aren't you ? Other examples are "your country", "your city" etc. Neither are true. You only live there. You like me are only "a number".
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Post by thomas on Jan 6, 2021 14:45:19 GMT
I am from Germany. Are the gyms in America open? How about the capatity in the hospitals becaus of corona?
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Post by Magnus on Jan 6, 2021 17:38:17 GMT
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Post by macky on Jan 7, 2021 2:49:21 GMT
Where are they going, Mags ? What's happening outside of NYC, do you know ?
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Post by Magnus on Jan 7, 2021 4:00:18 GMT
Where are they going, Mags ? What's happening outside of NYC, do you know ? Macky, by the "city" I specifically mean the borough of Manhattan, and depending on their means, people are either moving to the outer borough's or to other states like Florida or the Carolina's, etc where you don't have democrat lunatics in charge...
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Post by Magnus on Jan 7, 2021 4:03:01 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Jan 7, 2021 4:14:18 GMT
What's F'cking hilarious to me is that people who are disgusted by what happened in DC today were applauding and endorsing what happened in cities all over the U.S. in 2020.
.....TOTAL HYPOCRISY.....
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Post by pierinifitness on Jan 7, 2021 5:31:57 GMT
According to an article I read in my former hometown newspaper, based on U-Haul truck rentals, the number one outbound state for Californians taking an exodus hike is Tennessee.
Within California, Sacramento is probably the most popular inbound city. The people from the Bay Area (think San Francisco) are headed there because housing is more affordable. We had a great experience selling two homes in an amazing seller’s market. Selling another one and it feels like being the pretty high school cheerleader that everyone on the high school football team wants to take out.
Meanwhile, in the small AZ town where we live, the Californians are piling in. The locals are cool to this and are letting it be known to keep their liberal politics and way of thinking where they came from. We came in wearing red so we’re in good standing. Life is great. Don’t miss my alma mater. Never would have known.
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Post by macky on Jan 7, 2021 7:08:53 GMT
Where are they going, Mags ? What's happening outside of NYC, do you know ? Macky, by the "city" I specifically mean the borough of Manhattan, and depending on their means, people are either moving to the outer borough's or to other states like Florida or the Carolina's, etc where you don't have democrat lunatics in charge... I see Mags. I looked up your link in your next post. I know you mentioned democrats as not being the same as they once were, and I'm sure you're right. But I suspect this thing is higher up than partisan politics. Someone or more are pulling the strings above Cuomo and DeBlasio. Here's something else I wondered about for the shutting down of Manhattan businesses www.theverge.com/2019/3/14/18265833/new-york-city-climate-change-sea-level-rise-bill-de-blasio-developmentThe article is dated March 2019. Could it be that Covid 19 is being used to shut buildings and businesses down to keep removal of businesses costs down as well ?
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Post by macky on Jan 7, 2021 7:58:36 GMT
Hey Mags, what's this I hear about a pending NY bill to detain or put people, suspected of being infectious with anything potentially contagious, into FEMA camps? Is this it ? The article is 3-4 days old. www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-bill-a416-detainment-assembly-nyI've mentioned before, a military exercise in recent times that Wikipedia initially reported as being headed by FEMA. The exercise as I now remember was Jade Helm 15 of Sept 2015, and speculation was rife at the time that the involvement of some military in civilian clothes and vehicles entering towns and ingratiating themselves with the townsfolk was a dry run for when said folk would be invaded without warning and shipped off to FEMA camps, of which several hundreds are alleged to be in existence scattered around America. www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1BapUssNwj7WKyOIcLw5hRpoTTqI&msa=0&ll=40.192380818525024%2C-101.16502693749999&z=5 This conspiracy theory and others similar concerned local citizens and meetings were held to try and calm things down. It has been reported that some questions by older citizens were never satisfactorily answered. About one week later I referred to the Wikipedia article which I had bookmarked for further inspection, and all references to FEMA had been removed.
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