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Post by pierinifitness on Jul 14, 2020 3:18:07 GMT
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Post by MBS on Jul 14, 2020 3:22:24 GMT
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Post by ddh on Jul 14, 2020 4:10:14 GMT
Newsome is the biggest horses ass governor just like Jerry Brown was, Newsome is related to another idiot Nancy Pelosi, there are people here still who have not received their unemployment checks since March, and a lot of the businesses that’s opened now have to lay workers off again, it’s a shit storm here in California..
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Post by macky on Jul 14, 2020 7:27:38 GMT
Hopefully not many. This is bullshit heaped on bullshit. The guy still believed he had the virus despite continuous negative tests. So was he really unwell or not ? Then parts of his continuing saga were left out of the subsequent narratives, causing further confusion in the public's mind, and consequently more fear and worry. That's the sort of thing right now that America can do without. And everywhere else. Fauci's in trouble now from the Head Bullshitter for trying to tell the truth. The White House HB sycophants are sidelining Fauci from TV interviews at every opportunity. Meanwhile the HB is staunchly denying the seriousness of the whole thing.....you know...."99% of cases are totally harmless" etc. What !!
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 15, 2020 18:04:21 GMT
..... The guy still believed he had the virus despite continuous negative tests. So was he really unwell or not ? .... If he had the symptoms, especially the hypoxia symptom, he was sick. The test only finds the RNA from a biological component that is in every human, always has been in us and always will be. It is the exosomes (mislabeled as "virus") that inhabit our bodies at all times that respond to remove pathogenic wastes from the body, just as they've always done and always will do. No one seems to know for certain what the actual pathogen is, but I strongly suspect the obvious - the Wuhan wet market.
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Post by macky on Jul 15, 2020 20:37:22 GMT
..... The guy still believed he had the virus despite continuous negative tests. So was he really unwell or not ? .... If he had the symptoms, especially the hypoxia symptom, he was sick. The test only finds the RNA from a biological component that is in every human, always has been in us and always will be. It is the exosomes (mislabeled as "virus") that inhabit our bodies at all times that respond to remove pathogenic wastes from the body, just as they've always done and always will do. No one seems to know for certain what the actual pathogen is, but I strongly suspect the obvious - the Wuhan wet market. And that's another problem, isn't it ? What actually is causing all this disruptive disease. In the meantime, lockdowns and social distancing seem to be the only way the whole thing can be minimized. I think NZ was a good example of such measures keeping the lid on infections as much as possible. Opening up again has demonstrated how quickly things can deteriorate, Florida being an example of that.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 15, 2020 21:38:38 GMT
I don't remember where or who I heard it from recently, but the deaths directly attributed to the unique condition of isolation/lockdown have already killed more than twice the number of people than have been killed by the CV flu. Of course, as we've seen, the cure is to be a violent protestor, set on destroying lives and property.
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Post by macky on Jul 16, 2020 0:03:53 GMT
So the answer (if the allegation is true) is to save many more lives (twice as many) by just opening up everything as usual and let whatever it is that's causing all this sickness and death take its course ?
I don't know about others, but I enjoyed my lockdown/isolation immensely. The clear air (no traffic or industrial fumes) the trashy back yard days under blue skies (so lucky I've got a back yard at all), more time to pursue chi kung and just listening to the birds. Lucky to be in a country whose head honcho didn't deny the emergency and also took decisive action, unlike some other countries.
I mean, my family is under strain financially. My daughter lost her job when Auckland city council laid off 1100. My son-in-law is laid up for at least another month with damaged knee, and I'm only on a pension. House bills, mortgages and three grandchildren to keep and feed. The usual stuff.
No reason there for family violence or "isolation stress".
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 16, 2020 2:21:31 GMT
So the answer (if the allegation is true) is to save many more lives (twice as many) by just opening up everything as usual and let whatever it is that's causing all this sickness and death take its course ? Fizzy drinks, like pop, soda, carbonated, sugary drinks kill 180K every year - ten years ago - worldwide. Yes, that makes sense to me. All this sickness and death is on par with a seasonal flu, even with the data uncertainties. It's had ups and downs, but I definitely learned things I had no prior interest in.
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Post by vegetus25 on Jul 16, 2020 2:59:29 GMT
"What actually is causing all this disruptive disease" My vote goes to factory farming and to some of the other ways we treat animals like sh@t.
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Post by macky on Jul 16, 2020 5:18:10 GMT
Yes, that makes sense to me. All this sickness and death is on par with a seasonal flu, even with the data uncertainties.It's had ups and downs, but I definitely learned things I had no prior interest in. So are hospitals routinely overwhelmed with sufferers of seasonal flu ? As they were with New York and now in Florida with "Covid 19" ? Or is there a more ordered "average" throughout a typical year of flu sickness and death. I mean, in four days time it will be six months since the first single reported case of Covid 19 to hit the US. That's only half a year, and presumably unlike the seasonal flu, of which there are hundreds of strains, there is still no co-ordinated federal response, different states seem to be applying different strategies, health workers are under-equipped, and the numbers continue to rise. In the last 24 hours in the US, over 600 deaths. If this was war, and 600 soldiers a day were coming home in body-bags, with 140,000 deaths already just in six months, and 3.6 million wounded, some with permanent disabilities after recovery, we'd hear the uproar from down here.........
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Post by macky on Jul 16, 2020 5:20:58 GMT
"What actually is causing all this disruptive disease" My vote goes to factory farming and to some of the other ways we treat animals like sh@t. Poetic or natural justice ? Maybe so. Our treatment of animals and birds deserve everything we get, in my opinion. Battery chickens, experimental animals in labs, for two.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 16, 2020 14:37:39 GMT
Yes, that makes sense to me. All this sickness and death is on par with a seasonal flu, even with the data uncertainties.It's had ups and downs, but I definitely learned things I had no prior interest in. So are hospitals routinely overwhelmed with sufferers of seasonal flu ? As they were with New York and now in Florida with "Covid 19" ? Or is there a more ordered "average" throughout a typical year of flu sickness and death. I mean, in four days time it will be six months since the first single reported case of Covid 19 to hit the US. That's only half a year, and presumably unlike the seasonal flu, of which there are hundreds of strains, there is still no co-ordinated federal response, different states seem to be applying different strategies, health workers are under-equipped, and the numbers continue to rise. In the last 24 hours in the US, over 600 deaths. If this was war, and 600 soldiers a day were coming home in body-bags, with 140,000 deaths already just in six months, and 3.6 million wounded, some with permanent disabilities after recovery, we'd hear the uproar from down here......... IMO, hospitals are overrun currently due to 80% false positive test results while testing for the presence of human RNA, plus the people who are frightened and running to the hospital at any little cough or sneeze. ER nurses have told me for a long time about the people who show up just because they have a headache or a splinter. People are very fearful (which will produce its own added stress response issues) and easily convinced to be hospitalized. Inappropriate treatment and resulting damage brings death and permanent damage in survivors. 140,000 deaths for flu is less than 0.5%. Sad when anyone dies, but there's nothing unusual about the numbers.
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Post by macky on Jul 16, 2020 20:30:14 GMT
So are hospitals routinely overwhelmed with sufferers of seasonal flu ? As they were with New York and now in Florida with "Covid 19" ? Or is there a more ordered "average" throughout a typical year of flu sickness and death. I mean, in four days time it will be six months since the first single reported case of Covid 19 to hit the US. That's only half a year, and presumably unlike the seasonal flu, of which there are hundreds of strains, there is still no co-ordinated federal response, different states seem to be applying different strategies, health workers are under-equipped, and the numbers continue to rise. In the last 24 hours in the US, over 600 deaths. If this was war, and 600 soldiers a day were coming home in body-bags, with 140,000 deaths already just in six months, and 3.6 million wounded, some with permanent disabilities after recovery, we'd hear the uproar from down here......... IMO, hospitals are overrun currently due to 80% false positive test results while testing for the presence of human RNA, plus the people who are frightened and running to the hospital at any little cough or sneeze. ER nurses have told me for a long time about the people who show up just because they have a headache or a splinter. People are very fearful (which will produce its own added stress response issues) and easily convinced to be hospitalized. Inappropriate treatment and resulting damage brings death and permanent damage in survivors. 140,000 deaths for flu is less than 0.5%. Sad when anyone dies, but there's nothing unusual about the numbers. Apparently the extending time between testing and the results are causing anxiety as well. Nearly two weeks, they are saying. I would have thought that hospitals would not make up a bed for a patient until the results are in, either confirming or rejecting Covid 19 as the cause of the patient's symptoms. Or being able to tell whether the symptoms were able to be sufficiently dealt with by isolation at home. I mean they've had six months of experience by now, haven't they ? Therefore given that the medical staff/doctors know what they are doing re test results, bogus or not, surely they are sending home those that only have a headache and nothing more within a few minutes of checking them, test results or not ? Re the sugary drinks etc, they are not something that one catches, they are part of life choices. And re the tests for Covid 19, they have had six months to develop a reliable test. If testing remains unreliable, then either this strain of corona is more tricky than the medical profession is capable of dealing with, or the lack of coordinated federal response remains as shambolic as it always has been right from the Top, and right from the start. As an example, "99% of Covid 19 cases are totally harmless" is hardly the sort of serious response to the pandemic, is it ? No wonder a large number of people are fearful, with statements like that coming from their president.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 18, 2020 3:27:32 GMT
New York and Florida hospitals are not overwhelmed. NY state has about 100 deaths per day at the moment. It was nearly 1000 deaths per day in mid April. NY state population is about 19 million. Florida has about 75 deaths per day. It's the highest it has been and it is rising. UK is down to just over 70 per day from nearly 1000 in April. Population about 63 million. Sweden should be below 10 per day in the next few days from 90 per day in mid April. Sweden has never had a lockdown. Population about 10 million.
Some scientists are saying that NY, UK and several other countries have reached or are very close to herd immunity.
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