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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 7, 2020 5:21:17 GMT
.... Then there is the question that if testing for Covid 19 is such "weak science", as Kaufman puts it, "fraud" even, then what was filling up all the hospitals in the Hot areas ? What have all these patients, both discharged and deceased been suffering from, that was serious enough to have admitted them in hospitals, in the first place ? IMO, fear sent them to the hospital and bogus virus tests, that are only specific enough to determine if someone is expressing human biological response ("virus" or, to be more correct, exosome) to some unidentified toxic invader (wet market bacteria?), kept them there.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 7, 2020 5:32:16 GMT
Okay I finally found a couple of youtubes of Dr Andrew Kaufman There are more informative ones available, but interviews and presentations. When you search his name, Andrew Kaufman MD, his website will likely be the first result. There's an interview on the landing page. As I recall, about the last thirty minutes is an explanation of the virus, but it's all interesting.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 7, 2020 5:46:28 GMT
.... According to Kaufman, there are many doctors who also question said CDC's guidelines as per Covid 19 cause of death. Where are they ? Worried about being de-registered by the PTB ? .......... I think Senator Scott M. Jenson, MD is in Minnesota. Dr Rashid Buttar is in the Carolinas, I think? Not sure about Dr Thomas Cowan. As you dig into it, you'll come across more. The last number I heard, soon after this thread was started, was 3,000 or 4,000, I forget now. Don't know how many today.
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Post by macky on Jul 7, 2020 8:35:47 GMT
.... Then there is the question that if testing for Covid 19 is such "weak science", as Kaufman puts it, "fraud" even, then what was filling up all the hospitals in the Hot areas ? What have all these patients, both discharged and deceased been suffering from, that was serious enough to have admitted them in hospitals, in the first place ? IMO, fear sent them to the hospital and bogus virus tests, that are only specific enough to determine if someone is expressing human biological response ("virus" or, to be more correct, exosome) to some unidentified toxic invader (wet market bacteria?), kept them there. But as far as I know, those that were tested positive (by their terms, bogus or not) but could stay home, did so. Those that became really unwell were admitted to hospital weren't they ? They didn't just walk in and ask for a bed, I assume. We know that those with pre-existing serious problems ended up leaving this world, but there were previously quite healthy individuals who also ended up in hospital by medical admission. If the testing for Covid 19 is so flaky, what is it that is making all these people so ill ? Worldometer records well over 3 million US cases as of today, with over 130,000 deaths. I now know the ridiculous extent to which Covid 19 is being attributed to those that have died, but still, surely one can say the most of them are from this virus, as far as the testing goes ? If not, what ? Why were the hospitals in NY and the funeral parlours so overwhelmed, so suddenly ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 7, 2020 13:23:03 GMT
IMO, fear sent them to the hospital and bogus virus tests, that are only specific enough to determine if someone is expressing human biological response ("virus" or, to be more correct, exosome) to some unidentified toxic invader (wet market bacteria?), kept them there. 1) ...... We know that those with pre-existing serious problems ended up leaving this world, but there were previously quite healthy individuals who also ended up in hospital by medical admission. If the testing for Covid 19 is so flaky, what is it that is making all these people so ill ? 2) ...... surely one can say the most of them are from this virus, as far as the testing goes ? 3) If not, what ? Why were the hospitals in NY and the funeral parlours so overwhelmed, so suddenly ? 1) Fear Andrew Kaufman MD is one of many to give attention to if you want to understand this stuff, IMO. My understanding is that exosomes and "virus" are, if not exactly the same thing, in the same family, since the RNA test for CV will confirm the presence of either - basically showing that a person is human. If a person is fearful (stressor) when having the test done, it is quite likely that exosomes (or "virus" if you prefer) RNA will be detected, depending on the amount of amplification in the test during manipulation, since exosomes can be released in the body due to nothing more than stress. Like cholesterol which the body sends to repair sites to facilitate healing, exosomes (virus) are taking out the trash, plus whatever else they do, to help to keep us healthy and eliminate the threat from a toxin. So then, 'The only thing you have to fear is, fear itself.' Also, a person with any inflammation above the arbitrary line due to pre-existing chronic or acute medical condition will also likely test positive since exosomes (virus) are likely on the job. I'm not a doctor, but that's my opinion. 2) No way to know that. 3) Medical industry misunderstanding, mistrust or turning away from their own science for financial incentives, greed, ignoring what is observable by anyone paying attention, lack of compassion for the helpless, just trying to hang on to a paycheck and following bad advice and procedures by mandate of an "accepted official" authority.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 7, 2020 13:46:14 GMT
Another thought .... If electronic digital transmissions from wireless, cell phones, towers, etc, are stressors to our immune system as some believe, exosomes may be on the job and easily detectable.
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Post by macky on Jul 8, 2020 9:57:30 GMT
We know that emotions such as fear, worry and anger can have both short and long-term physical health consequences. That's been generally accepted in the West for quite a while and is certainly a Definite in TCM. "White-coat anxiety" can give a higher than normal BP reading, for example.
So in a nutshell :
The ID of Covid 19 is weak science according to Andrew Kaufmann.
Testing is unreliable. That's been asserted pretty much from the start.
Mis-use of ventilators and possibly other medical treatments have resulted in unnecessary deaths.
Covid 19 statistics are being inflated by the inclusion of totally unrelated fatal events.
Either way, it's giant mess. So what next ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 8, 2020 14:22:18 GMT
.... Either way, it's giant mess. So what next ? I don't know. I have enough blessings and challenges for today, but it's a good feeling to know that I can just live my life without any above normal concern over an upper respiratory flu. At the same time, I respect the right of others to freak out over it and will maintain the distance they request which is typically 3', 1.5M or 6', depending on whose construct they believe. I also support the efforts to protect those who are most vulnerable by sheltering them and the practice of good hygiene, as is done every flu season around here. All of the, so many, contradictions are amusing though. Like the rule that we're not to assemble in groups larger than 10 (or whatever the number selected for today is), but protesting with thousands is OK (rofl) .
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Post by jonrock on Jul 8, 2020 15:56:53 GMT
...the rule that we're not to assemble in groups larger than 10 (or whatever the number selected for today is), but protesting with thousands is OK (rofl) .... That only works if you are a "minority".
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Post by macky on Jul 9, 2020 1:04:38 GMT
Yes very much in agreement with all of the above. But add to that "rallying with thousands" as well, and we then have a "majority" according to Trump
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 12, 2020 3:31:33 GMT
People are only hospitalised if they are showing signs of serious illness. They don't send people to hospital for testing positive to covid-19.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 12, 2020 3:32:08 GMT
I did a few calculations. Percentage of the population that died with covid-19. Belgium 0.08 UK 0.06 Spain 0.06 Italy 0.05 Sweden 0.05 (Didn't have a lockdown. Only advised social distancing) France 0.04 USA 0.04 Netherlands 0.03 Ireland 0.03 Canada 0.02
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Post by macky on Jul 12, 2020 6:53:47 GMT
The ratio of deaths to cases seems to be falling, according to the NZ Herald today.
Three reasons at least. Better treatment methods, such as turning the patients onto prone position for better breathing.
More testing. Younger patients take longer to pass away and the figures for their deaths aren't in yet. The Herald cites the case of Broadway actor Nick Cordero 41 who went from diagnosis to death in 95 days. Absolutely shocking. Poor guy.
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Post by macky on Jul 13, 2020 22:13:32 GMT
And the ever-present danger by those who are taking all the precautions in good faith, but are themselves infected without showing any symptoms themselves, infecting a whole lot of others some of whom may go on to develop more serious illness.
It was something we talked about from the early days of this thread. While both the flu and Covid 19 infected can show no symptoms, at least two differences emerge. 1) There has not been enough time for herd immunity to take place, as yet. 2) Much is still not known about Covid 19, as reflected in the info shared by mikey.
And bogus or not, the number of cases worldwide and of course in the US continues to rise. Percentage-wise, the number of deaths seem to be lower per number of cases, but as I've maintained from the start, more cases, more deaths, no matter what.
Trump continues to try and downplay the seriousness of the pandemic ("99% of cases are totally harmless" as if laying in bed with a dose of Covid 19 is "totally harmless"), and it seems Fauci is coming in for some flack just for being a bit more truthful.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 14, 2020 0:31:58 GMT
Yes, everyone is "infected" with their own RNA exosomes at all times. Part of the chemistry that makes us human. If they respond to a threat causing higher inflammation, the RNA will be more easily detected. Makes sense to me.
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