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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 4, 2020 21:56:21 GMT
I just got hold of a "Panther 28". It's like a Bullworker. Before I get everyone too excited I should mention that this is only available in Australia. Link: Panther 28 eBaySame length as the Bullworker Pro which is now only available in parts of Asia and looks like it will be discontinued when the stock runs out. The Panther 28 is the same length as the Lady Bullworker but the Panther has a stronger spring. Shorter than a Classic (36") and the old Bullworker models (35-36"). Longer than the two tube Steel Bow (20"). The quality is similar to the old bullworkers. Not as smooth as a classic but it is less than half the price so what do you expect? I really like it. I'm only a short arse with not much wingspan. I find the Classic and older bullworkers a bit too long for me to get any benefit from exercises like chest compression variations in particular. This really is a very handy length device. Not as cumbersome as the Bullworker Classic. The spring is fairly strong. (Only has one spring. The latest Bullworker has 3 interchangeable springs.) Not as strong as Bullworker's strongest spring but it would seem that not many people use their strongest spring. I think the Panther 28 spring is like a shorter version of the Bullworker middle spring. There is also the "Panther L" which is also 28" long but with a lighter spring. I wouldn't mind one of those as well for certain exercises and it could also be used when wanting to perform higher reps. Link: Panther L eBay
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 5, 2020 1:16:02 GMT
Say, isn't that the one with tubes on either end?
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Post by Magnus on Jan 5, 2020 11:02:46 GMT
Say, isn't that the one with tubes on either end? It doesn't look like my 3-piece Steel Bow 28....
BTW, if in the market for a 'Bullworker' I'd skip buying anything brand new and just look for a lightly used X5 on eBay, they're all over the place for dirt cheap. I've now purchased two X5's for relative bargains, a Japanese made X5 Gold in absolute brand new condition with original carrying case and an English made black & chrome model that appears brand new except for the power meter sticker peeling slightly due to getting dried out with age, but I've since fixed with a few drops of crazy glue.
I've also purchased a few other model Bullworker's, like my practically brand new brown handle model with original carrying case that I snagged for $25, but both of my '3-tube' X5's are superior in 'feel' to any 2-tube model that I ever tried 😎
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Post by Magnus on Jan 5, 2020 11:19:44 GMT
Just took a fast look on eBay, and this older X5 looks pretty good for relatively cheap, although it does appear to be missing the 'power meter' sticker, but that's relatively common...
The seller is accepting 'offers', so someone could possibly snag it for under $30 (?)...
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Post by Magnus on Jan 5, 2020 11:30:09 GMT
...or maybe something in a '2-Tube' Brown handle version with original box and intact 'Power Meter', and also seemingly all around excellent looking condition (?) Zero bids so far, someone may be able to grab this for next to nothing www.ebay.com/itm/333462948761
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jan 5, 2020 16:22:22 GMT
If anyone wants an as new condition Iso-7X, PM me. When I tried to list it on eBay (in order to use the money to buy a new Bullworker no less) Bullworker USA had eBay pull the listing and give me a warning on their chickenshit protectionist copyright and intellectual property rights program rules. Apparently you can only list an Iso-7X if it's a new one purchased directly from Ontel and I understand Bullworker USA has some kind of affiliation with Ontel. BW USA makes a good product, but I'll be dammed if I ever purchase another one directly from them.
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Post by Michael on Jan 5, 2020 16:51:45 GMT
That's pretty messed up.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 5, 2020 17:07:38 GMT
Sucks
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Post by Magnus on Jan 5, 2020 17:44:07 GMT
If anyone wants an as new condition Iso-7X, PM me. When I tried to list it on eBay (in order to use the money to buy a new Bullworker no less) Bullworker USA had eBay pull the listing and give me a warning on their chickenshit protectionist copyright and intellectual property rights program rules. Apparently you can only list an Iso-7X if it's a new one purchased directly from Ontel and I understand Bullworker USA has some kind of affiliation with Ontel. BW USA makes a good product, but I'll be dammed if I ever purchase another one directly from them. The ISO-7X is a very well made version, I must say.... still have one that survived being totally immersed under salt water for hours in my garage during Hurricane Sandy, didn't dig it out of the rubble until months later. I figured it was worth an attempt at saving, so I repeatedly oiled it up and kept compressing it to get the 'kinks' out... it worked fine after that, still does
Hey, that really is messed up that you'd get threatened on eBay like that, lord knows I had my 'run in' with that company also, right Shen ?.... LOLOLOLOL
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Post by Magnus on Jan 5, 2020 18:24:06 GMT
... BW USA makes a good product, but I'll be dammed if I ever purchase another one directly from them. They certainly do, the 'modern' Classic version is a well made product that could easily last a lifetime. As a matter of fact the 'Classic' that I owned for awhile before giving away and my ISO-7X Deluxe seem very similar to each other as far as 'feel' and build quality goes, They both have the exact same rubber inlay on the end of tube grips, and the total length seemed similar from what I can remember (?). The only significant difference I can recall was the Classic had plastic coated metal cables with rubber 'handles' instead of the strap on the ISO-7X and also the resistance on the Classic was somewhat increased...
....but I wouldn't worry about any of that one bit, in my opinion both of the X-5's I now own are superior to the 'Classic'
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jan 5, 2020 19:36:03 GMT
I own a Made in England X-5 also. The double straps and the option to shorten your arm and rotate your hands 90 degrees offers more versatility for different holds.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 5, 2020 19:36:10 GMT
Why do you have two X-5's?
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jan 5, 2020 19:39:13 GMT
Why do you have two X-5's? Perhaps:
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 5, 2020 19:43:01 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 5, 2020 19:50:12 GMT
Here's my menagerie of bullies. I laminated chap leather to the hard plastic handles of the X-7, making for an outstanding grip. I added wrapped leather handles to a couple of bullies. I have acquired a Bully Extreme since taking this picture. Mags, you say the Classic will last a lifetime. I got my brown handled Bullworker over 40 years ago and it's just as good as it was in the beginning. Bullworkers are definitely a great investment and an absolutely brilliant yielding iso exerciser.
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