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[billfish]

Aug 4, 2019 8:56:48 GMT Alan OldStudent said:

Aug 4, 2019 8:32:17 GMT stuke said:

Had to look that up as I tend to avoid the news. Another one, makes you wonfer just how many of these nutjobs are out there in the world.

Note that the El Paso shooter was one of those fucking white nationalist fascist scums. Probably an anti Semite too.

Really.....?

You know this to be a fact ?
Massive government corruption being uncovered........wonder if this is the latest shooting to divert attention from the real problems
 

[billfish]

Aug 4, 2019 13:35:31 GMT Deuce Gunner said:

Probably? Do you have some kind of evidence of him punching out a senior citizen that was simply wearing the wrong color ballcap with a logo he "found offensive" that you are making this judgement on? Oh sorry. I was thinking of the other antifacist (unless it's views they don't approve of) group, but they only attack in packs and wear hoods when they do.

These coward antifa motherfuckers are planning 'military style exercises" in Texas.....lock and load Texas and good shooting !

[jonrock]

Billfish and deucegunner, a big +1.

[jonrock]

That "probably" is too much supposition.
There is "probably" too much anti-white in Occident.
There are "probably" too many "isms" in Occident.

[mr potatohead]

Aug 4, 2019 8:32:17 GMT stuke said:

..... Had to look that up as I tend to avoid the news. Another one, makes you wonfer just how many of these nutjobs are out there in the world.

I read that there was an eye-witness who saw four men dressed in black, moving together through the crowd, shooting people indiscriminately.
The officials reported that they "think" it was that one guy.
Hmmm.
Nobody really knows fuck-all ..... well .... someone might, but they aren't going to tell.

As far as fear of guns (or knives) are concerned, it's about personal bias and perspective formed mostly from media propaganda, brainwashing, convenience, peer pressure, expediency, hysteria and probably other things I can't think of right now.
According to the National Safety Council, over 7,000 people drown in private pools every year. That's almost 20 EVERY DAY, of EVERY YEAR, year after year. Nobody is crying to make pools illegal though, huh?
Perhaps drowning deaths are not as sensational for news as shooting deaths?

[billfish]

Aug 4, 2019 18:54:00 GMT mr potatohead said:

Aug 4, 2019 8:32:17 GMT stuke said:

..... Had to look that up as I tend to avoid the news. Another one, makes you wonfer just how many of these nutjobs are out there in the world.

I read that there was an eye-witness who saw four men dressed in black, moving together through the crowd, shooting people indiscriminately.
The officials reported that they "think" it was that one guy.
Hmmm.
Nobody really knows fuck-all ..... well .... someone might, but they aren't going to tell.

As far as fear of guns (or knives) are concerned, it's about personal bias and perspective formed mostly from media propaganda, brainwashing, convenience, peer pressure, expediency, hysteria and probably other things I can't think of right now.
According to the National Safety Council, over 7,000 people drown in private pools every year. That's almost 20 EVERY DAY, of EVERY YEAR, year after year. Nobody is crying to make pools illegal though, huh?
Perhaps drowning deaths are not as sensational for news as shooting deaths?

I doubt that we will ever know the truth.....the headline i lasr saw had in bold letters "Shooter  young white male".  I don't believe the news media and I do believe there is more to it........much more 

[stuke]

Aug 4, 2019 18:54:00 GMT mr potatohead said:

Aug 4, 2019 8:32:17 GMT stuke said:

..... Had to look that up as I tend to avoid the news. Another one, makes you wonfer just how many of these nutjobs are out there in the world.

I read that there was an eye-witness who saw four men dressed in black, moving together through the crowd, shooting people indiscriminately.
The officials reported that they "think" it was that one guy.
Hmmm.
Nobody really knows fuck-all ..... well .... someone might, but they aren't going to tell.

As far as fear of guns (or knives) are concerned, it's about personal bias and perspective formed mostly from media propaganda, brainwashing, convenience, peer pressure, expediency, hysteria and probably other things I can't think of right now.
According to the National Safety Council, over 7,000 people drown in private pools every year. That's almost 20 EVERY DAY, of EVERY YEAR, year after year. Nobody is crying to make pools illegal though, huh?
Perhaps drowning deaths are not as sensational for news as shooting deaths?

Personally I don't fear knives or guns, at leadt as far as objects. Different matter if someone is pointing one at me though.
Deaths by drowning etc are not the same thing, we could bring up accidental deaths when drunk, car accidents etc but when someone is killing with a weapon, often with no apparent motive against the victim, well it is at least something we need to be aware of and keep our eyes open.

[jonrock]

Yes: white, male and heterosexual...christian comes fourth.
Here in Spain, there is always at least 2 or 3 of the lot in the news: hitting/raping/killing women, hitting children, hitting lgtbi people, etc...
Then you read the news thoroughly, research properly and see the change in demographics and the conclusion is quite different.

Btw, I am christian and must say that He Who Must Not Be Named is NOT christian: he does not show christian traits and his morals, words and actions are not representative of a christian.
Nothing to do with Christ.

[Alan OldStudent]

Aug 4, 2019 14:53:00 GMT billfish said:

Aug 4, 2019 8:56:48 GMT Alan OldStudent said:

Note that the El Paso shooter was one of those fucking white nationalist fascist scums. Probably an anti Semite too.

Really.....?

You know this to be a fact ?
Massive government corruption being uncovered........wonder if this is the latest shooting to divert attention from the real problems
 

Hooo Boy! Here we go!!

Here's a  cut-and-paste from 8chan, where this scum posted his screed. Courtesy of a (gasp) Marxist!

tinyurl.com/y2ypdvxh

If you look at his screed, you'll note he's not crazy or obviously mentally ill. He's just a fucking white nationalist fascist piece of shit.

As a radio announcer used to say back in the 70s, "If you don't like the news, go out and make some."

[jonrock]

"White nationalist fascist..."...
Yes, the name plus all the surnames you can think of and which fit a particular ideology.

Ideologies are for us, the proletariat.
Social changes, economic crisis, etc..the same.
The elite does not apply any of that:they perpetuate their bloodlines, that's why even wars do not decimate them and they maintain their properties and status.
For us, the trouble; for them, the power.

[mr potatohead]

Aug 5, 2019 3:19:04 GMT Alan OldStudent said:

.... Here's a  cut-and-paste from 8chan, where this scum posted his screed. Courtesy of a (gasp) Marxist!

tinyurl.com/y2ypdvxh

If you look at his screed, you'll note he's not crazy or obviously mentally ill. He's just a fucking white nationalist fascist piece of shit.

As a radio announcer used to say back in the 70s, "If you don't like the news, go out and make some."

You read this on the internets? So, it must be true and reliable and should be accepted without question ....?


Here's what someone who was there said (also info supplied by the internets and just as reliable):

Adriana Quezada, 39, said she was in the women’s clothing section of Walmart with her two children when the shooting happened.

“I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,” she said.

Her 19-year-old daughter and 16-year-old son threw themselves to the ground, then ran out of the Walmart through an emergency exit. They were not hurt, Quezada said.

She said she saw four men, dressed in black, moving together firing guns indiscriminately. Police later said they think there was just one shooter.

Also, in the same PBS Newshour report from a picture caption:

..... August 03, 2019. – Police said there may be more than one suspect involved in an active shooter situation Saturday in El Paso, Texas. City police said on Twitter they had received “multi reports of multiple shooters.” There was no immediate word on casualties.

We talk about anecdotes on this forum occasionally. The report here is that multiple people saw and reported multiple perps WHILE THE CRIME WAS IN PROGRESS. 
It's interesting that people are becoming so trained to believe whatever the media tells them to believe, in spite of the on-scene, at the time, eye-witness accounts that they freely report - since they know few will believe the anecdotes of people on the scene and instead opt for the report fabricated later by "officials". We are such suckers.

As I posted earlier, we don't know fuck-all.

[mr potatohead]

Aug 4, 2019 21:54:05 GMT stuke said:

Aug 4, 2019 18:54:00 GMT mr potatohead said:

I read that there was an eye-witness who saw four men dressed in black, moving together through the crowd, shooting people indiscriminately.
The officials reported that they "think" it was that one guy.
Hmmm.
Nobody really knows fuck-all ..... well .... someone might, but they aren't going to tell.

As far as fear of guns (or knives) are concerned, it's about personal bias and perspective formed mostly from media propaganda, brainwashing, convenience, peer pressure, expediency, hysteria and probably other things I can't think of right now.
According to the National Safety Council, over 7,000 people drown in private pools every year. That's almost 20 EVERY DAY, of EVERY YEAR, year after year. Nobody is crying to make pools illegal though, huh?
Perhaps drowning deaths are not as sensational for news as shooting deaths?

Personally I don't fear knives or guns, at leadt as far as objects. Different matter if someone is pointing one at me though.(1.)
Deaths by drowning etc are not the same thing, we could bring up accidental deaths when drunk, car accidents etc but when someone is killing with a weapon, often with no apparent motive against the victim, well it is at least something we need to be aware of and keep our eyes open.(2.)

1. I agree, vehicles, water, frying pans, guns, knives, hammers, ball bats, etc, etc - all are just objects. They only become weapons when they are used aggressively against another human with the intent of causing harm or death. A weapon is defined by its use.

2. Death is death. Some facilitators of death seems to be more sensational and newsworthy than others. I'd guess that the people/person(?) who did this act were aware of the media coverage it would receive and that could have been a motivation too.
Likely most of the 20 deaths per day, every day, caused by drowning in pools, are accidents and not murder by drowning, even though drowning and killing someone in water does happen. Of course, the people who were at the Walmart in El Paso when this tragedy occurred just "happened" to be there shopping routinely .... very unfortunate and sad timing for them. They probably went to Walmart feeling safe, as we should be able to do. 
Whether a person likes guns and knives or does not like guns and knives, they are here and not going away. It is the person who would use those, or any object, or by any other method without objects, that we need to deal with ..... assuming we are even able to actually determine who that person or those people are, or that someone with authority can avoid their own greedy interests to have enough integrity to be impartial and objective with their judgements.
Remember the OJ trial? Is ours a system that can be trusted or do we focus our trust on individuals that have proven themselves as having impeccable integrity?

         My point is that it's unrealistic to think that we can eliminate the objects and solve the issue.

There are accounts of people killing other people with vehicles, water by drowning them, hammers - all that stuff I mentioned above, even salad. The story about the woman who killed her husband by feeding him salad with tomato plant leaves.
I think both of us understand that the object is not a problem. I agree with your statement that we need to be aware and keep our eyes open.

[jonrock]

Not only eliminating those objects wouldn't solve the issue: criminals will always use weapons to overpower others, no matter how restricted/illegal its use/access.
If everyone can carry those weapons/objects criminals think it twice before attacking someone who can answer back in their own terms.
If you are attacked by multiple agressors, a weapon can save your life.
It acts as a deterrent.

[jonrock]

Aug 5, 2019 11:22:32 GMT mr potatohead said:

It's interesting that people are becoming so trained to believe whatever the media tells them to believe, in spite of the on-scene, at the time, eye-witness accounts that they freely report - since they know few will believe the anecdotes of people on the scene and instead opt for the report fabricated later by "officials". We are such suckers.

Media fabrication is an art and science.
Add to that the fact that people tend to agree with what suits their ideas instead of searching for the truth and accepting to change their ideas if they don't fit evidence.

[Deuce Gunner]

The holy trinity of criminal investigation are confessions, witness testimony, and physical evidence. Of the three, witness testimony is considered the least reliable, because everyone remembers and sees things differently. Filtered through media that are mainly interested to ratings and pandering to a certain segment of the population and its generally utter rubbish.