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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 11, 2019 20:12:53 GMT
Deadlifts with heavy resistance bands offer a decent alternative to Trap Bar with heavy weights . For the heck of it, use a Trap Bar with a combo of weight plates and resistance bands or just the bands.
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Post by Bob50 on Jul 11, 2019 20:23:43 GMT
Deadlifts with heavy resistance bands offer a decent alternative to Trap Bar with heavy weights . For the neck of it, use a Trap Bar with a combo of weight plates and resistance bands or just the bands. Exactly! I do these exercises using opposite legs-arms dynamic self-resistance with the longer belt. It works like the resistance bands. P.S. In addition to back muscles, these exercises develop the biceps, deltoids, latissimus, and trapezius muscles.
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Post by MBS on Jul 11, 2019 22:10:58 GMT
I consider the trap bar deadlift to be the most valuable strength movement I do. ....... I'm so jelus! Really, if I had a trap bar, I would use it. I've thought about getting one, but the DIY tool I use and the weights I use for loaded carries work fine. Not heavy, but when I pick them up to hold them, swing them or walk with them, I pause to do some holds and movements in the bent over, squat, DL-type position. It's that useless straight bar stunt skill that I avoid now. The DL with a straight bar barbell has no correlation to the way a human picks things up in life or work. (Prove me wrong, I dare you! Anyone? Anyone?) IMO, its use is reserved for professional DL competitors only and should only be promoted or mentioned with a disclaimer warning so that naive people like me won't watch a youtube and then think they have the skill to set a DL PR. I messed up my back trying to straight bar DL a weight that was too heavy before I knew any better. The average joe like me isn't going to have professional training to do potentially injurious exercise and I'm not at all interested in learning any special skills to do stunts. I haven't quit lifting altogether, but I avoid the straight bar barbell, lower the weight loads and lengthen the time under tension. Its got a permanent place in my backyard. Bar weighs 75 lbs, and I’ve got 330 lbs of plates. More than I need. The convenience of having it at home allows me greater usage of it.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 11, 2019 22:47:03 GMT
I like the design of the newer Trap Bars that have elevated handles . I got my Trap Bar over 30 years ago; it accepts standard weight plates (1" hole).
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 12, 2019 0:22:21 GMT
.... Its got a permanent place in my backyard. Bar weighs 75 lbs, and I’ve got 330 lbs of plates. More than I need. The convenience of having it at home allows me greater usage of it. I see that it flips for higher hand hold. Nice! Hell, @ 75# I could use the bar alone to exercise! Ha! Especially by using grunt's band suggestions. No way would I need 330# of plates. How much did the bar alone cost and when? I bet it's expensive? EDIT: OK, I don't know how or why that image became so large. Hey ..... is ...... that ..... a ..... a ..... yellow dildo in the background?
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Post by MBS on Jul 12, 2019 0:36:29 GMT
. It’s a San Pedro cactus...😄. The trap bar was a great deal. If memory serves, it was $125 shipped to my house. Credit to former poster “ Magnum4z” for posting the link to it. Bought it maybe 12 years ago. (I picked up the 330 lbs of Oly plates for $50 off Craigslist. )
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Post by Michael on Jul 12, 2019 10:46:55 GMT
That's the same one my son brought home. Didn't think about turning it over like that with the 45's, good idea.
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Post by MBS on Jul 13, 2019 6:03:23 GMT
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Post by Alan OldStudent on Jul 13, 2019 6:40:27 GMT
Deadlifts with heavy resistance bands offer a decent alternative to Trap Bar with heavy weights . For the neck of it, use a Trap Bar with a combo of weight plates and resistance bands or just the bands. Hey Grunt,
When you do these types of dead lifts, do you anchor the resistance bands beneath your feet, behind you from the bottom of the door, in front of you from the bottom of the door, or where? I've thought about all of these and would like to benefit from your insights into this.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 13, 2019 8:20:06 GMT
My DIY lifting tool, mentioned in the earlier post, that replaces a straight bar BB and is shown HERE, now weighs 110# with a plate added on top. There's plenty of room on the pvc elbow for both hands and the curve of the elbow makes the gripping very comfortable - as a KB would be. I pull it up from between my legs like the old-time Dr Windship wooden lifter.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 13, 2019 12:20:35 GMT
Anchoring resistance bands and straps: I usually anchor my flat heavy resistance bands with a wooden dowel that I stand on . The HOOK or another wooden dowel is used for various exercises including the back strengthening deadlift . Moreover, I use the dowel anchor when performing a variety of isometrics; the setup avoids the discomfort of a strap pulling on the outside of feet especially when performing isometric deadlifts and squats .
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 13, 2019 14:53:24 GMT
Somewhere there are pix of Bruv's band pulling DL platform made from a small skid/pallet. It allows the user to stand, flat, on it, without the uncomfortable diameter of the dowel under foot.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 13, 2019 16:36:57 GMT
Bruv's platform certainly allows for comfortable deadlifts . My wood dowel anchor is also comfortable ; moreover , by passing the dowel through a pool noodle , shoeless lifts are comfortable . Taped on pipe insulation also works well.
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Post by chanduthemagician on Jul 14, 2019 19:21:22 GMT
I see, it's the "hip hinge" these days. In the old days we called it "keeping your fucking back straight". I'm getting tired of the cookie cutter web sites of the young bucks, all with a book or whatnot on "functional" or "mobility" shit. Personally, I think DL can be good or bad, it's what you are doing with the movement. Any lift to greater and greater weights brings risk. DL seems to be a bit more problematic because some of the muscles used in it are big and powerful with a good percentage of fast twitch and some are just the opposite. So if you work it too heavy or too often, some of them may not recover fully/optimally and you are at a greater risk of injury. I prefer 10+ reps on my DL. Sometimes for brief periods (2 -3) weeks, I do a Bob Peoples style workout. Mostly I shoot for bodyweight around 20 reps. Keeps me strong enough and gives a little conditioning - once per week. I also, to the horror of the exercise police, will stand on a bench press station, and do SLDL with a FULLY CURVED SPINE. Nothing heavy, but 135 down to the shoe laces and back up. I think this alone as been responsible for a lot of the back health I have enjoyed over the years. Back in the day I've gone up to about 225 in this movement. I think a lot of non-structure related back issues are due to hams or glutes or erectors, wherein one of them gets overtight and others over stretch to compensate. For me SLDL seems to take care of that by stretching all of them and keeping the tonus at the right level - "can't we all just get a long". I think I've written here before that the best my back ever felt - by best - I mean strong and bullet proof was when I worked in a warehouse and often had to quickly restack pallets. Bent over pick up a little ways and twist to a pallet to the side of the one you just picked something up from and place object down. Basically getting little boxes of stuff off a pallet that had broken. Fastenal screws, bolts, nuts and the like were in heavy little small boxes and often would break cheap ass poplar pallet boards and require restacking. Oh, and I was shocked to hear Rippetoe recommend powerlifting. Soon he's going to use it to cure brain cancer.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jul 14, 2019 21:51:02 GMT
High rep deadlifts are problematic since it's easy to lapse into bad form resulting in busted up weightlifter syndrome .
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