Different Take On Counting Calories

[Michael]

I always like less complicated. This is kind of what I've done in the past when I lost weight.

[pierinifitness]

There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

All roads lead to Rome.

[mr potatohead]

Jeff is incorrect about potatoes.
He lumps potatoes into the "Starchy Carb" category.
Then he says this category is the most filling and the least satiating. (3:12 to 4:12 in vid) Wrong, with regard to potatoes.
(I'm not sure that "most filling and least satiating" makes sense anyway.)
I see that he eats them himself though. Funny.

Potatoes are the most satiating food a person can eat.
Assuming the same number of calories per serving of any food tested, potatoes were the most satiating by a wide margin - about 30% more satiating than the nearest one (fish).
nutritiondata.self.com/topics/fullness-factor

This is why a person can easily lose weight by replacing calories (which can be estimated by portion size) of other foods with potatoes. Potatoes are great!

[machinehead]

Something related...

www.stack.com/a/youre-probably-ignoring-this-number-in-the-nutrition-facts-and-it-might-be-making-you-fat?

"When it comes to satiety, the weight of your food matters. Research has found that the average person eats between 3 and 5 pounds of food per day. That's between 1360 and 2267 grams. In a pamphlet entitled Low-Energy-Dense Foods and Weight Management: Cutting Calories While Controlling Hunger, the CDC writes, "Research shows that people eat a fairly consistent amount of food on a day-to-day basis. This finding holds true whether the amount of food contains many or few calories."

"That's the level of food people eat," says Ryan Andrews, registered dietitian and author of the book Drop The Fat Act & Live Lean. "Whether it's 3 to 5 pounds of cheese and candy or 3 to 5 pounds of vegetables and fruits. It's an important factor to feeling satisfied throughout the day."

Whole foods generally tend to be quite a bit heavier than highly processed ones, largely due to their naturally high water content."

[stormshadow]

Mr P you might like

www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/diet-nutrition/news/a39697/penn-jillette-weight-loss-potato-diet/

[mr potatohead]

stormshadow:
You may be interested in THIS and THIS.

A brief summary of the Potato Hack:
The potato hack is a short-term 3 to 5 day diet where you eat nothing but potatoes. You can expect to lose around 1/2 to 1 pound of fat per DAY over 3 to 5 days. Repeat this 3 to 5 day hack each week until you reach your target weight.
It’s not uncommon to drop 10-15 pounds of body fat in one month following this protocol.

We are talking body fat loss, not just glycogen and water (like many other diets).

The Simple Rules of the Potato Hack Diet:

Plan on eating just potatoes for 3-5 days.
Eat 2-5 pounds of potatoes each day.
No other foods allowed (this includes butter, sour cream, cheese, and bacon bits).
Salt is allowed, but not encouraged.
Drink when thirsty: coffee, tea, and water only.
Heavy exercise is discouraged; light exercise and walking are encouraged.
Take your normal medications, but dietary supplements will not be needed.

[pierinifitness]

Stormshadow, thanks for the article link. I’m well aware of Penn Jillette’s amazing story and have read several articles about it.

Count me in on the potatoes team. As I was chiseling my extra lard, the potato was an important food I regularly ate. I bought the Yukon gold type in a 5-lb. bag at Trader Joe’s.

I’d boil them, refrigerate them and eat the next day cold and naked, generally at lunch for my first meal after breaking my fast. I’d generally eat 4 of them for a whopping 440 calories. I can’t think of any other food that’s 440 calories making me feel as full as those 4 potatoes.

Also aware of the potato hack guy and all those cast of YouTube characters chronicling their potato eating journeys trying to chisel their lard.

I still eat them but at a lower count.

[stormshadow]

Thanks for all the info on the potatoes guys. I think they are an excellent food too.

Sometimes I eat plain but I also use either salsa or a light olive oil spray.

[Michael]

You guys might find this funny but I've never had the taste for white potatoes. Always hated the taste no matter how they were cooked. The only way I never minded eating them is when there's homemade beef stew. I always preferred sweet potatoes or yams. But hearing You guys talking about white potatoes maybe I should force myself to eat them, .

[mr potatohead]

CAUTION!
If you grow your own potatoes, you will have control of the pesticides, herbicides and whatever chemicals, both synthetically or naturally derived, that are or have been applied (or avoided!) to crop and soil.

Before buying potatoes from a grocer that are labeled as "organic", I recommend reading THIS.

I have a friend who used to work for both commercial and organic potato growers. They told me years ago that not only are toxic chemicals used in the soil and on organic potatoes, but organic potatoes can have even higher amounts of toxic chemicals used than conventionally grown potatoes. They also told me that potatoes are one of the most heavily chemically treated crops.
They refuse to eat any potato unless they have verified that the source producer is completely free of the use of contaminates. Like me, they either raise their own or buy from local truck farmers who they know have grown truly organically raised, natural, untreated potatoes.
I may grow some myself, but currently, I buy them from people I know and that I know how they grow their potatoes.

[Michael]

You're pretty lucky to have these options. Well, I decided to buy the potatoes that Pierini was talking about at Trader Joe's which are organic this morning. Peeling the skin off or washing them real good, would that help at all?

[pierinifitness]

Michael, the skin is the best part.

I give mine a good scrubbing before submerging them for a boil. I generally do 4 at a time because that’s my meal, 440 calories on average. As previously mentioned, I first refrigerate overnight then eat cold and naked.

It’s an acquired taste that grew on me. I now find them flavorful. Hunger makes a good chef.

Can’t think of any other 440 calories food selection that makes me feel as full.

[Michael]

I get what You're saying about the skin. I can deal with the taste of the potato itself but the skin is not for me.

[mr potatohead]

Jun 29, 2019 15:58:04 GMT Michael said:

You're pretty lucky to have these options. .....

They will grow for you too, I bet.

[mr potatohead]

Jun 28, 2019 14:21:37 GMT pierinifitness said:

..... I’d boil them, refrigerate them and eat the next day cold and naked, .......

I've done the same and then a friend at the farmer market told me about steaming them.  Steaming them takes about half the time as boiling, which I like a lot! That's what I do now, then refrigerate, eat what I want, cold, for the next three days, then freeze the balance for heating up later.   
I don't scrub the truly organic ones, just brush off the dirt or rinse and then steam. Since they are not treated, some have blemishes and, depending on what they are, I cut them away. I'd rather do that than buy treated ones that all look great.
Another beneficial thing about eating plain cold potatoes, that have been boiled or steamed, is that refrigeration for a few hours has an effect on the starch making it about 75% resistant starch - resistant to digestion - so it lowers the starch available for digestion, acting more like fiber, I guess.

Yours truly,
mr potatohead