Michael
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Post by Michael on May 1, 2019 23:29:01 GMT
I prefer movement but I don't always do full range of motion. Depends on the exercise. My body feels better with movement.
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Bob50
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Post by Bob50 on May 2, 2019 0:10:18 GMT
10 reps/set is my limit. I just increase my opposite muscle tension or co-contraction to reach ~ failure after 6-10 reps.
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pierinifitness
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Post by pierinifitness on Jun 3, 2019 18:20:27 GMT
I’ve done more pull-ups than I can count. Never had a shoulder injury but I take my shoulder flexibility and health seriously and keep them flexible with the drill work I do.
I did have a couple episodes of elbow tendinitis and grip callouses early in my pull-ups training journey.
On a scale of 1 to 10, I wouldn’t give my pull-ups a 10 as far as dead hang pause at the bottom goes but in my opinion, they’re legitimate reps and not partials. I’ve done partials in the past and believe they’re great for hypertrophy finish work (like doing them in 1/3 partial ranges for 3 ranges to failure. I’m not a hypertrophy type training guy and consider the “feel” as something that gets in the way of my primary training goals.
I think the best results of full range dead hang is that you get better doing them full range dead hang.
I built a killer back appearance doing them shy of perfect dead hang (some of you old timers may be familiar with at least one of my killer back photos.). And I built decent pull-ups strength training in the range I do having done a single pull-up with 82 lbs. added and a single chin-ups with 88 lbs. added (may have done 100 lbs. added chin-up but can’t confirm it with certainty).
Today I did 100 reps of alternating pull-ups and chin-ups in 20:40.
Seldom disagree with Jeff but at the end of the day, like Frank Sinatra sang, I did it my way.
Here’s almost 10 years ago doing 7 reps with 45 lbs. added. I believe these are legitimate reps. Can only do 4-5 reps now with same weight.
And here’s a bunch of grip variations when I weighed 200 lbs, less than stellar full range and never a shoulder or any other injury.
By the way, I do engage my lats which is easier to do full extension, it gives some biceps fatigue relief.
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stuke
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Post by stuke on Jun 3, 2019 19:14:21 GMT
I This Jed Cavaled douche doesn't know his striated arse from his gh elbow. Another armchair expert, I heard all that shred is airbrushed on. It's all attention seeking of the very worst kind.
Ok, I'm joking, he does talk a lot of sense and I enjoy his videos. My take on form v numbers is they both have thwir place - withn reason, ideally somewhere inbetween being ideal. Full rep push ups with elevated feet and hands on high blocks to allow a buge stretch hurt my shoulders. Exfreme stretch flyes are a riak IMO.
A guy on another forum didn't appreciaye my views that Gironda style sternum pull ups were too much. He basically made out that any less ia form cheating... I countered that are people who squat to parallel or just below cheating? Is a deadlift from the floor cheating compared to from ztanding on a block to make it harder? For me, chin ups from fukl hang or just shy of, to chin over bar are just right. Can I do then to sternum, yes, a few but it feels wrong for me and the exagerrated range is not worth the necessity to use no extra weight.
Here is a video of a recent few reps as I do thwn. An older video on my channel has full lockout, which I avoid now for my joints.
I muat admit, I hate people doing half or quater rep chins or push ups, and therd are so mamy of them out there, and then noasting about rhwir numbers. But maybe that is juat me, they are not harmkng anyone.
The truth is, many ranges of motion have merit - deadlifta from a block to heavy partials from above the knee, they can all help one way or anothef.
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